WTF Bites
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@boomzilla Well you need to pay extra to hire the master Swiss watch maker to look over your gears. Which is apparently a thing this company did. Even though they're making deadbolts and not watches.
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@blakeyrat But without fancy gears and the nod of approval from a Swiss watchmaker, how could they possibly move a piece of metal half an inch in one direction and back?
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@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
Somehow this company that makes $700 deadbolts failed:
So Close. | HackerNoon
We were driven to build a <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsT5xvoaHBo" target="_blank">product that people would fall in love with.</a>
HOW!
Considering how much people spend on other useless Internet of Shit stuff, like $30 light bulbs that won't work anymore in 3 years, I don't think the price tag is that exceptionally high. You don't really want to be too cheap on good doors and windows.
But then, what I've just said comes with the big caveat that I didn't really understand what their product does. He goes on and on... and on ("8 min read") with his salesman-speak how great everything they did is:
the software team challenged themselves to complete the full user experience so that our customers would fall in love with the way they engaged the product and actually experience joy as they used it.
What's so special about it, what the heck does it do? This is a complete fluff piece without any useful information whatsoever.
And nobody will ever experience joy by opening a door, no matter how well designed it is. In the very best case, you won't even think about it.
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@topspin But, with the proper personality in the AI, the door can enjoy being opened, and some of that might rub off on the opener.
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What's so special about it, what the heck does it do?
From what little he says about it, it seems to be a high-quality deadbolt that can be operated digitally, by which I infer that it's an Internet of Things device that can be locked or unlocked remotely via a smartphone. If it's not IoT, then it's just a deadbolt with a motor to open or close the lock and a fancy way to interact with it instead of a (regular) mechanical key or knob.
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Otto recognizes you as you approach
Facial recognition to unlock the door? I dunno, but that's how I read that.
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:
Otto recognizes you as you approach
Facial recognition to unlock the door? I dunno, but that's how I read that.
Or it's bluetooth enabled, so it actually recognizes your phone and not you?
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@djls45 Perhaps, or some other physical token/fob/whatever. But that doesn't seem nearly hip and cool enough for such an innovative startup.
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@topspin But, with the proper personality in the AI, the door can enjoy being opened, and some of that might rub off on the opener.
You've just described the gameplay of Space Station 13.
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@topspin But, with the proper personality in the AI, the door can enjoy being opened, and some of that might rub off on the opener.
Ew.
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@ben_lubar Well, I was going for a Guide reference, but whatever.
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My favorite was
Creating a new, exciting and addictive user experience guided our actions and decision making.
OMG I just can't stop opening and closing that door, it feels so good!
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@hardwaregeek said in WTF Bites:
But that doesn't seem nearly hip and cool enough for such an innovative startup.
Those things were in research labs 25 years ago.
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@ben_lubar Well, I was going for a Guide reference, but whatever.
Might as well link to explain the reference:
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@ixvedeusi said in WTF Bites:
OMG I just can't stop opening and closing that door, it feels so good!
Well, they did want an "addictive" user experience.
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@heterodox said in WTF Bites:
@ixvedeusi said in WTF Bites:
OMG I just can't stop opening and closing that door, it feels so good!
Well, they did want an "addictive" user experience.
Filed Under: Loot doors?
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God damn, do I hate PeopleSoft.
What happens when I use the search bar?
https://i.imgur.com/lbk3oQ9.png
Something sane, probably, right?
https://i.imgur.com/gMTx2V0.png
Sigh.
Bonus ducks: The reason I was searching for it in the first place was because it's barely fucking findable. Amazingly enough, the menu segment labeled Transcript does literally nothing, the graduation progress report shows whether you've completed the classes but not what grade you got in them, and nothing grade-related is visible on the main screen. After an incredible deluge of complaints, IT released instructions on how to find your grades, stating that you had to navigate the menu tree in a particular way. None of the menu navigation steps they cited, however, actually exist.
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@rhywden That's messed up, but I've always looked at people listening to music in public like that and thought,
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Oklahoma City Police Fatally Shoot Deaf Man Despite Yells Of 'He Can't Hear'
The police department's spokesperson said he didn't know whether officers heard witnesses yelling that the man was deaf and couldn't hear the officers' commands.
Both officers had weapons drawn — Lindsey had a Taser and Barnes a gun. Sanchez came off the porch and was walking toward Barnes.
"The witnesses also were yelling that this person, Mr. Sanchez, was deaf and could not hear. The officers didn't know this at the time," Mathews said.
Both officers fired their weapons at the same time when Sanchez was about 15 feet away from them; more than one shot was fired, the police captain said.
Guns don't kill people, idiots with itchy fingers kill people.
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@zecc I distinctly remember my American friend making fun of me when, moving to the states for a few months, I mentioned the only thing I'm afraid of is getting shot by cops.
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@topspin might be because getting shot by cops is the LEAST likely thing to happen to you. You're much, much, much more likely to be shot by random dude on the street, and that itself is very unlikely to happen. That said, I might be biased by living in Chicago.
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
None of the menu navigation steps they cited, however, actually exist.
Works On Their Machine™
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might be because getting shot by cops is the LEAST likely thing to happen to you
you don't know @topspin's skin colour!!
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@bb36e he's either more likely to be killed by a neighbor, or even more likely to be killed by a neighbor.
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@topspin might be because getting shot by cops is the LEAST likely thing to happen to you. You're much, much, much more likely to be shot by random dude on the street, and that itself is very unlikely to happen. That said, I might be biased by living in Chicago.
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Wait, Chicago? Meh, with the current crime rates, I suppose you're right... so long as you keep up your bribe payments...
Filed Under: City of Big
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@boomzilla said in WTF Bites:
That's messed up, but I've always looked at people listening to music in public like that and thought,
I agree that it's dumb to be "in public" and also have noise cancelling headphones which make you totally unaware of everything around you, but also: there's a lot of reasons a person might not be able to hear/understand the instructions of a police office. Maybe they don't speak that language. Maybe they're literally deaf. Etc.
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@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
@boomzilla said in WTF Bites:
That's messed up, but I've always looked at people listening to music in public like that and thought,
I agree that it's dumb to be "in public" and also have noise cancelling headphones which make you totally unaware of everything around you, but also: there's a lot of reasons a person might not be able to hear/understand the instructions of a police office. Maybe they don't speak that language. Maybe they're literally deaf. Etc.
There's a link in that reply thread to a Youtube video from CNN which shows a guy being shot and killed in pretty much the same situation. Namely being unarmed and wearing headphones.
It's pretty disturbing so I won't link to it (short code is 0mezvCg0A5c ) but it's basically five(5) seconds from first shout to first shot.
That's an incredibly short timeframe. Especially if you consider that the victim initially had his back to the officer.
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@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
but also: there's a lot of reasons a person might not be able to hear/understand the instructions of a police office.
Yes. Still retarded to do that to yourself, though listening to police commands was way down on my list of reasons not to do something like that.
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@boomzilla said in WTF Bites:
@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
but also: there's a lot of reasons a person might not be able to hear/understand the instructions of a police office.
Yes. Still retarded to do that to yourself, though listening to police commands was way down on my list of reasons not to do something like that.
Well, while I do agree with you when it comes to being outside, up till now I actually considered the inside of a supermarket not be a place where I needed to do split second decisions requiring me to use all my faculties.
Unless your supermarkets have become severely dangerous places, of course.
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@boomzilla said in WTF Bites:
@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
but also: there's a lot of reasons a person might not be able to hear/understand the instructions of a police office.
Yes. Still retarded to do that to yourself, though listening to police commands was way down on my list of reasons not to do something like that.
Well, while I do agree with you when it comes to being outside, up till now I actually considered the inside of a supermarket not be a place where I needed to do split second decisions requiring me to use all my faculties.
Unless your supermarkets have become severely dangerous places, of course.
Not mine. But then I don't wander around obliviously like that, either. I'd be more worried (in that context) about being rude to people if I was blocking them and they said, "Excuse me" or whatever.
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Well, while I do agree with you when it comes to being outside, up till now I actually considered the inside of a supermarket not be a place where I needed to do split second decisions requiring me to use all my faculties.
If you don't want to engage with humanity, don't leave your house. Do your shopping online.
These are the kind of jerkasses who block the row and I can't get past them and I can't politely get their attention because they can't hear anything. Just like you shouldn't walk around staring at a cellphone every goddamned step of your trip, you shouldn't walk around completely dampening all sounds from the world around you. It's basic politeness.
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@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
Well, while I do agree with you when it comes to being outside, up till now I actually considered the inside of a supermarket not be a place where I needed to do split second decisions requiring me to use all my faculties.
If you don't want to engage with humanity, don't leave your house. Do your shopping online.
These are the kind of jerkasses who block the row and I can't get past them and I can't politely get their attention because they can't hear anything. Just like you shouldn't walk around staring at a cellphone every goddamned step of your trip, you shouldn't walk around completely dampening all sounds from the world around you. It's basic politeness.
Oh, yes, good thing you notified me that I'm also blind. I wouldn't have noticed!
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@rhywden Unless you have eyes in the back of your head, it's pretty easy to have your eyes open and still be in someone's way without noticing. That's why we as a society have decided the solution to that problem is to say something like, "excuse me, could I reach that shelf?" or similar.
If you're unprepared for the polite society solution to this problem, you're being a jerk. That's as simple as it gets.
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@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
@rhywden Unless you have eyes in the back of your head, it's pretty easy to have your eyes open and still be in someone's way without noticing. That's why we as a society have decided the solution to that problem is to say something like, "excuse me, could I reach that shelf?" or similar.
If you're unprepared for the polite society solution to this problem, you're being a jerk. That's as simple as it gets.
Yes, by that logic, deaf people should never leave the house. They're impolite at all times, the jerks!
Or my grandmother! She's hard of hearing and slow to boot!
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@rhywden Jesus Christ you're fucking stupid. Obviously the rules are different if it's a physical handicap.
If you're capable of being polite, but choose to not, that is what makes you the asshole.
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@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
@rhywden Jesus Christ you're fucking stupid. Obviously the rules are different if it's a physical handicap.
How would you know the rules are different? Last time I looked, you can't tell whether someone's deaf or not on a glance.
I just love imagining you getting all indignant at this jerk not moving even though you oh-so politely asked him to!
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How would you know the rules are different?
I wouldn't. I wouldn't care.
Last time I looked, you can't tell whether someone's deaf or not on a glance.
Correct.
I just love imagining you getting all indignant at this jerk not moving even though you oh-so politely asked him to!
I don't get indignant at people being jerks. If I did, I'd be indignant like 12 hours a day and that gets tiring. The world's full of jerks. You just have to deal with it.
But that doesn't mean you should be the jerk, just because you're surrounded by other jerks.
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@blakeyrat You're not really helping your case that you're not being indignant. Neither do you provide sufficient proof that you don't care.
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@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
These are the kind of jerkasses who block the row and I can't get past them and I can't politely get their attention because they can't hear anything.
I usually poke them
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@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
@boomzilla said in WTF Bites:
That sounds like something that might have found a market somewhere for controlled access doors for a company or government or whatever but is so obviously ludicrous as a home product that I can't even.
Those already exist, although they usually require a server in a room somewhere to function. Once the server's set up, I'm guessing they cost way less than $700/door for hardware, although I've never set one up myself.
We have a setup like that. The employee ID cards are RFID and do the doors on time schedules and ACLs. The master control software runs on a virtual WinXP machine. We paid less than 100 USD for each door controller and each controller does two doors. It actually runs flawlessly in spite of being obviously made by the lowest bidder.
Edit: By lowest bidder I mean that the plastic housing on the controllers is held on by hot-glue and falls off exposing live circuitry. If you go the IP of a controller you also get a PIC18 webserver page that is blatantly straight from the Application Note with almost no changes.
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@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
@rhywden Unless you have eyes in the back of your head, it's pretty easy to have your eyes open and still be in someone's way without noticing. That's why we as a society have decided the solution to that problem is to say something like, "excuse me, could I reach that shelf?" or similar.
If you're unprepared for the polite society solution to this problem, you're being a jerk. That's as simple as it gets.
…and you deserve to be in a situation where some points a gun at you and you might get shot?
America is a strange country.
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@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
These are the kind of jerkasses who block the row and I can't get past them and I can't politely get their attention because they can't hear anything.
I usually poke them
In the kidney with a rusty shiv made from a hacksaw blade.
Filed Under: morbiuswilters
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@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
@rhywden Unless you have eyes in the back of your head, it's pretty easy to have your eyes open and still be in someone's way without noticing. That's why we as a society have decided the solution to that problem is to say something like, "excuse me, could I reach that shelf?" or similar.
If you're unprepared for the polite society solution to this problem, you're being a jerk. That's as simple as it gets.
…and you deserve to be in a situation where some points a gun at you and you might get shot?
America is a strange country.
Stranger than people who think Americans think everyone should deserve to be in a situation where they might get shot? Seriously, I have no idea what you're talking about.
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America is a strange country.
I wish I could just shoot people who seem to be completely oblivious to their surroundings, noise-canceling headphones or not. Like people who get off an escalator and immediately stop and start looking around while I'm right behind them. What the fuck am I supposed to do, start jogging backwards till they move their asses out of the way?
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@boomzilla said in WTF Bites:
@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
@rhywden Unless you have eyes in the back of your head, it's pretty easy to have your eyes open and still be in someone's way without noticing. That's why we as a society have decided the solution to that problem is to say something like, "excuse me, could I reach that shelf?" or similar.
If you're unprepared for the polite society solution to this problem, you're being a jerk. That's as simple as it gets.
…and you deserve to be in a situation where some points a gun at you and you might get shot?
America is a strange country.
Stranger than people who think Americans think everyone should deserve to be in a situation where they might get shot? Seriously, I have no idea what you're talking about.
That both you and Blakey focused on how he shouldn’t be going around in headphones as if it mattered in any way in the context of the story.
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America is a strange country.
I wish I could just shoot people who seem to be completely oblivious to their surroundings, noise-canceling headphones or not. Like people who get off an escalator and immediately stop and start looking around while I'm right behind them. What the fuck am I supposed to do, start jogging backwards till they move their asses out of the way?
Push them. It’s Czechia, you probably won’t get sued. ;)
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@boomzilla said in WTF Bites:
@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
@rhywden Unless you have eyes in the back of your head, it's pretty easy to have your eyes open and still be in someone's way without noticing. That's why we as a society have decided the solution to that problem is to say something like, "excuse me, could I reach that shelf?" or similar.
If you're unprepared for the polite society solution to this problem, you're being a jerk. That's as simple as it gets.
…and you deserve to be in a situation where some points a gun at you and you might get shot?
America is a strange country.
Stranger than people who think Americans think everyone should deserve to be in a situation where they might get shot? Seriously, I have no idea what you're talking about.
That both you and Blakey focused on how he shouldn’t be going around in headphones as if it mattered in any way in the context of the story.
Well, yeah. Anyone who does that is a moron and an asshole. The thing about deserving to get shot is all you, though.
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