YouTube's new logo
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To lodge a complaint from outside of forums, my sister just had a good 10 minute rant about the freaking text color being damned-near white on dark theme (official one), which is also straining as all hell.
Managed to Stylish the thing, if anyone wants it:
yt-formatted-string { color: #dedede !important; }
Tweak color as needed. Yes, the
!important
is necessary.
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More or less on topic, Humble Bundle has video editing software at the moment
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@sh_code said in YouTube's new logo:
OH! I knew/noticed something changed about it yesterday, but I wasn't able to put my finger on what was it specifically. All I could say is that it looked ...longer.
I'll bet I wouldn't have been able to say what had changed without someone pointing it out like this.
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@blakeyrat said in YouTube's new logo:
@jazzyjosh said in YouTube's new logo:
Online editing tools are deprecated and scheduled to be removed.
They should probably mention that somewhere, because just two weeks ago when I tried to use it there was nothing. (It just plain didn't work, because apparently YouTube forgot a feature of their site uses Flash.)
Not that this is an acceptable alternative to a notification on the page itself.
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@jazzyjosh said in YouTube's new logo:
Not that this is an acceptable alternative to a notification on the page itself.
No, that's referring to the "create from scratch" editor. That's not the one I was trying to use.
The one the posts mentions as:
Other things that are NOT going away:
Trimming
Blurring
Audio Library
Filters
End Screens
Cards
Subtitles
Sound effects
Quick fixes (stabilize, contrast, slow motion, saturation, >etc)That's the one I was trying to use (to mute some ContentID audio), and it's still live on the site. It just doesn't work in any browser except IE, AFAICT.
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@blakeyrat It's working for me in Chrome with Flash disabled. It uses the default HTML5 video controls instead of YouTube's stupid overlay controls, though.
I do remember when it required Flash, though.
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@lb_ That must be brand spanking new. I admit it's been a few weeks since I checked.
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I think I have the full treatment now. YouTube looks like total shit. It looks just like Vid.me, which I hated the design of. Whitespace everywhere. No delineation of boundaries, no separation.
The most disappointing thing is that you know teams of people worked for a really long time to make it this much worse than what they had.
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@polygeekery said in YouTube's new logo:
The most disappointing thing is that you know teams of people worked for a really long time to make it this much worse than what they had.
no, that's not the most disappointing thing.
the most disappointing thing is that those people actually think they made a better product than they had before.
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@accalia said in YouTube's new logo:
@polygeekery said in YouTube's new logo:
The most disappointing thing is that you know teams of people worked for a really long time to make it this much worse than what they had.
no, that's not the most disappointing thing.
the most disappointing thing is that those people actually think they made a better product than they had before.
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@polygeekery said in YouTube's new logo:
@accalia said in YouTube's new logo:
@polygeekery said in YouTube's new logo:
The most disappointing thing is that you know teams of people worked for a really long time to make it this much worse than what they had.
no, that's not the most disappointing thing.
the most disappointing thing is that those people actually think they made a better product than they had before.
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@polygeekery said in YouTube's new logo:
I think I have the full treatment now. YouTube looks like total shit. It looks just like Vid.me, which I hated the design of. Whitespace everywhere. No delineation of boundaries, no separation.
If you click into a playlist now, it starts playing the first video instantly instead of showing you the list.
The "Share -> Start At XX:XX" widget is completely broken. (Pausing the video will close that hovering box, typing in a new time code won't update the URL.)
It's a very Google update. Still better than Hangouts though.
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@blakeyrat said in YouTube's new logo:
If you click into a playlist now, it starts playing the first video instantly instead of showing you the list.
I thought that was how it worked before, either clicking the thumbnail or the text for the playlist would start playing, and whichever other one would go to the actual playlist.
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@hungrier Clicking the text would take you to the list (what I want 99.9% of the time).
Clicking the thumbnail always takes you to the video (which I never want, but it's at least logically consistent with other thumbnails).
Now both play the video.
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@blakeyrat said in YouTube's new logo:
Now both play the video.
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I like that we have material design now.
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What annoys me the most is that every page takes longer to load. The subscription feed takes longer to load, and when it does, it takes 10x as long for the video durations and watch later buttons to load in after the rest of the page. That used to be instant!
They also removed the triple dots menu from playlist pages - it used to let you add or remove all the videos in the playlist to another playlist, and I found that very useful. I can't find it anymore, and you can't even add videos to Watch Later from a playlist page anymore.
Another removed feature is the ability to search your watch history. It's just gone now. Want to search your watch history for a video you saw? Too bad, scroll through the list like the second page of Google search results. (pro-tip: add
?query=
to the end of the URL and the feature still works, there's just no input on the page)At least the one good thing is that every video in the subscription feed lost view has a triple dors menu now so you can add it to a playlist without loading the video page first. You still have to wait the super long time for the video duration to load, though.
Fun fact: the new layout isn't even finished. I don't say that just because of the missing features and how unfinished it looks, but because some links literally redirect you to the same URL but with
&disable_polymer=true
added to the end so that you get the old layout with all the features. at least I have a workaround now...
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I've just found something that seems to have been removed...
Prior to this update, I could start a cast to my Chromecast and it would flip Youtube into "playing on a TV" mode where I could then add videos to the Chromecast's session playlist as well as manipulate said playlist. This new interface seems to lack those functions, I can now only deal with a single video at a time without dealing with an actual predefined playlist.
Dammit, Youtube...
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@e4tmyl33t The desktop/browser Chromecast experience has always been so terrible that I just use a phone or tablet instead. If you have a Chromebook with Play Store support, it's actually a better experience to install the YouTube Android app...
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@e4tmyl33t Oh...and now it seems that if I try to go to the Help section in the same Youtube tab I have streaming a video to said Chromecast, the Help bit is now a little popup overlay that appears...AND AUTO-PAUSES THE VIDEO. The video that, I remind you, is currently not playing on my desktop, but is instead playing on the TV about 10 feet behind said desktop. WHY would it feel the need to do this?
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@lb_ I have Android phones, but whenever I have my daughter here I would just load up a couple of Achievement Hunter's Minecraft Let's Play videos for us to watch while we hang out on my desktop before I started making dinner or whatever. Now it seems I can't do this anymore...or i'll need to use my phone. Which is a pain in the ass.
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@pie_flavor said in YouTube's new logo:
Tap? Who uses the website on mobile instead of the app?
I'm on a Surface Pro 3.
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@raceprouk said in YouTube's new logo:
@pie_flavor said in YouTube's new logo:
Tap? Who uses the website on mobile instead of the app?
I'm on a Surface Pro 3.
Well, there's your problem.
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My Macs are still on the old layout. I dare not close a browser or refresh a page.
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@polygeekery said in YouTube's new logo:
My Macs are still on the old layout. I dare not close a browser or refresh a page.
I figure your browser is updated enough to be impervious to the old trick?
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@lb_ said in YouTube's new logo:
They also removed the triple dots menu from playlist pages - it used to let you add or remove all the videos in the playlist to another playlist, and I found that very useful. I can't find it anymore, and you can't even add videos to Watch Later from a playlist page anymore.
This is one reason why I always dread rewriting an interface. There are always a million little things that you didn't think about when you decided to do it and it takes forever to go back and redo all that stuff and you inevitably miss something and make some of the same mistakes you made the first time around.
Which is basically a rehash of that old Joel on Software post.
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@boomzilla They certainly missed an opportunity to prove Google knew what it was doing after the ongoing disaster of the new Google Hangouts.
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@blakeyrat said in YouTube's new logo:
missed an opportunity to prove Google knew what it was doing
They virtually never seem to know what they're doing. They have some things that work (in some cases, really well) but they don't seem to understand why they work well, let alone show any ability to transfer their learnings from the successes to the other products effectively.
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OMFG I can't pause to read frame-perfect frames anymore!
GET OUT OF MY FACE! You're just the same videos right there on the right, why are you here?!?!?!
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@tsaukpaetra said in YouTube's new logo:
OMFG I can't pause to read frame-perfect frames anymore!
GET OUT OF MY FACE! You're just the same videos right there on the right, why are you here?!?!?!
You see the 'x' button there? And they're there so you don't have to exit fullscreen to switch videos.
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@pie_flavor said in YouTube's new logo:
@tsaukpaetra said in YouTube's new logo:
OMFG I can't pause to read frame-perfect frames anymore!
GET OUT OF MY FACE! You're just the same videos right there on the right, why are you here?!?!?!
You see the 'x' button there? And they're there so you don't have to exit fullscreen to switch videos.
Why would I exit fullscreen to switch videos when the end grid works just fine? YouTube just keeps enabling AutoPlay so I usually don't see it anyways.
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@tsaukpaetra said in YouTube's new logo:
@pie_flavor said in YouTube's new logo:
@tsaukpaetra said in YouTube's new logo:
OMFG I can't pause to read frame-perfect frames anymore!
GET OUT OF MY FACE! You're just the same videos right there on the right, why are you here?!?!?!
You see the 'x' button there? And they're there so you don't have to exit fullscreen to switch videos.
Why would I exit fullscreen to switch videos when the end grid works just fine? YouTube just keeps enabling AutoPlay so I usually don't see it anyways.
First of all, I've never seen it re-enable AutoPlay on me unless I switch to incognito where there's no such cookie. Second, because you actually have to go to the end to see the end grid - what if you get bored halfway through the video?
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@pie_flavor said in YouTube's new logo:
@tsaukpaetra said in YouTube's new logo:
@pie_flavor said in YouTube's new logo:
@tsaukpaetra said in YouTube's new logo:
OMFG I can't pause to read frame-perfect frames anymore!
GET OUT OF MY FACE! You're just the same videos right there on the right, why are you here?!?!?!
You see the 'x' button there? And they're there so you don't have to exit fullscreen to switch videos.
Why would I exit fullscreen to switch videos when the end grid works just fine? YouTube just keeps enabling AutoPlay so I usually don't see it anyways.
First of all, I've never seen it re-enable AutoPlay on me unless I switch to incognito where there's no such cookie.
I have the misfortune where I spent several videos singing incantations trying to get it to stop, and eventually gave up and installed a TamperMonkey script.
Second, because you actually have to go to the end to see the end grid - what if you get bored halfway through the video?
Press the End key. Duh. You know, to End the video?
I know, I know, using the keyboard is you don't have to tell me how bad a user I am.
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@pie_flavor said in YouTube's new logo:
And they're there so you don't have to exit fullscreen to switch videos.
Very useful when you're not in fullscreen.
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@raceprouk said in YouTube's new logo:
@pie_flavor said in YouTube's new logo:
And they're there so you don't have to exit fullscreen to switch videos.
Very useful when you're not in fullscreen.
I mean, obviously the One True Way to use YouTube is to start a video and make it full-screen, thus creating the illusion that you're watching broadcast television, right?
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OK, I really don't understand why everyone is so surprised by this. When's the last time Google updated the YouTube UI to make it less shit? Honestly, all they do every time is just move some shit around to fuck with you and add more useless whitespace.
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@pie_flavor said in YouTube's new logo:
what if you get bored halfway through the video?
What if I just want to pause mid-video to read something at the bottom of it?
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@tsaukpaetra said in YouTube's new logo:
@pie_flavor said in YouTube's new logo:
@tsaukpaetra said in YouTube's new logo:
@pie_flavor said in YouTube's new logo:
@tsaukpaetra said in YouTube's new logo:
OMFG I can't pause to read frame-perfect frames anymore!
GET OUT OF MY FACE! You're just the same videos right there on the right, why are you here?!?!?!
You see the 'x' button there? And they're there so you don't have to exit fullscreen to switch videos.
Why would I exit fullscreen to switch videos when the end grid works just fine? YouTube just keeps enabling AutoPlay so I usually don't see it anyways.
First of all, I've never seen it re-enable AutoPlay on me unless I switch to incognito where there's no such cookie.
I have the misfortune where I spent several videos singing incantations trying to get it to stop, and eventually gave up and installed a TamperMonkey script.
Second, because you actually have to go to the end to see the end grid - what if you get bored halfway through the video?
Press the End key. Duh. You know, to End the video?
I know, I know, using the keyboard is you don't have to tell me how bad a user I am.
What if you're on a surface/other touchscreen without a readily available keyboard?
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@pie_flavor said in YouTube's new logo:
@tsaukpaetra said in YouTube's new logo:
@pie_flavor said in YouTube's new logo:
@tsaukpaetra said in YouTube's new logo:
@pie_flavor said in YouTube's new logo:
@tsaukpaetra said in YouTube's new logo:
OMFG I can't pause to read frame-perfect frames anymore!
GET OUT OF MY FACE! You're just the same videos right there on the right, why are you here?!?!?!
You see the 'x' button there? And they're there so you don't have to exit fullscreen to switch videos.
Why would I exit fullscreen to switch videos when the end grid works just fine? YouTube just keeps enabling AutoPlay so I usually don't see it anyways.
First of all, I've never seen it re-enable AutoPlay on me unless I switch to incognito where there's no such cookie.
I have the misfortune where I spent several videos singing incantations trying to get it to stop, and eventually gave up and installed a TamperMonkey script.
Second, because you actually have to go to the end to see the end grid - what if you get bored halfway through the video?
Press the End key. Duh. You know, to End the video?
I know, I know, using the keyboard is you don't have to tell me how bad a user I am.
What if you're on a surface/other touchscreen without a readily available keyboard?
Tap the screen an then tap the end of the scrobbler. But you might as well just double tap to exit full-screen and choose what you want from the suggestions list anyways.
Case in point: the Material YouTube App for Android behaves like you'd expect and not showing suggestions until you're at the end, and pausing in the middle of a video doesn't bring up suggestions.
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@tsaukpaetra said in YouTube's new logo:
Case in point: the Material YouTube App for Android behaves like you'd expect and not showing suggestions until you're at the end, and pausing in the middle of a video doesn't bring up suggestions.
Yes it does (in fact, whenever the tracker's visible), you just have to drag them up to see them. But dragging behaves differently on desktop, so they settled for 'already enabled / click x to disable'.
Meanwhile, how do you get these to appear on desktop? I've tried and I can't get them to.
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@pie_flavor said in YouTube's new logo:
@tsaukpaetra said in YouTube's new logo:
Case in point: the Material YouTube App for Android behaves like you'd expect and not showing suggestions until you're at the end, and pausing in the middle of a video doesn't bring up suggestions.
Yes it does (in fact, whenever the tracker's visible), you just have to drag them up to see them. But dragging behaves differently on desktop, so they settled for 'already enabled / click x to disable'.
Meanwhile, how do you get these to appear on desktop? I've tried and I can't get them to.
@pie_flavor said in The arrow keys still are fucked up for navigation:
So, user error. Gotcha.
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@pie_flavor said in YouTube's new logo:
Meanwhile, how do you get these to appear on desktop? I've tried and I can't get them to.
They only appear in the embedded player on other websites, never on YouTube.com
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@lb_ said in YouTube's new logo:
@pie_flavor said in YouTube's new logo:
Meanwhile, how do you get these to appear on desktop? I've tried and I can't get them to.
They only appear in the embedded player on other websites, never on YouTube.com
It's effectively a ploy to get you back into YouTube. :)
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@lb_ said in YouTube's new logo:
They only appear in the embedded player on other websites, never on YouTube.com
@tsaukpaetra said in YouTube's new logo:
GET OUT OF MY FACE! You're just the same videos right there on the right, why are you here?!?!?!
What was the original complaint, then? There are no videos on the right if it's an embedded player somewhere else, and frame-pausing is rarely necessary on videos that you're not getting right off of YouTube itself.
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@pie_flavor said in YouTube's new logo:
First of all, I've never seen it re-enable AutoPlay on me unless I switch to incognito where there's no such cookie.
Usually when I watch a video in incognito mode, not only does AutoPlay start enabled, if I disable it "too soon" it promptly re-enables itself.
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Hey by the way, is anyone else seeing the letters BG next to the logo?
I believe that used to show the language version being displayed (I used to get CZ there), but BG would mean Bulgaria, which is a country I've never been to, and the whole interface is in English...
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@blek said in YouTube's new logo:
Hey by the way, is anyone else seeing the letters BG next to the logo?
Yes, but the other way around ;)