United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why
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@wharrgarbl said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
you can't force obese people to buy 2 tickets
And why the fuck not?
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@anotherusername said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
@wharrgarbl said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
you can't force obese people to buy 2 tickets
And why the fuck not?
Social Justice. That's why.
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@wharrgarbl said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
@heterodox If it wasn't a PR disaster idea they would be doing it. And what about the argument if a person is fat, will they measure passengers on check-in?
They do do it; I've seen it happen. It's at the discretion of the flight crew, at least as far as I can tell. And I suppose it's not a PR disaster because literally everyone other than the person who has to buy two tickets appreciates it. No one likes that part of the flying experience or wishes for it to happen to them.
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@heterodox They do it after the person boarded the plane? So what they do if they don't have money, throw the guy out of the plane?
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@wharrgarbl How the hell should I know, am I flight crew? Probably.
Listen, no one's making you fly and no one's claiming that the flying experience hasn't always been pretty crappy in general-- it's just better than all of the alternatives.
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@wharrgarbl said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
@heterodox They do it after the person boarded the plane? So what they do if they don't have money, throw the guy out of the plane?
If the person takes up two seats, they should pay for two seats. It is not the airlines worry on whether or not the person has enough money to pay the fare to transport both of their ass cheeks.
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@Polygeekery isn't, like, 80% of merikkans obese?
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@wharrgarbl That's an exaggeration, but even the official number is suspect because they changed the definition to use BMI. If you're using BMI, most professional athletes would be either overweight or obese, because BMI only takes height and weight into account and doesn't consider whether the weight is fat or muscle.
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@antiquarian said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
@wharrgarbl That's an exaggeration, but even the official number is suspect because they changed the definition to use BMI. If you're using BMI, most professional athletes would be either overweight or obese, because BMI only takes height and weight into account and doesn't consider whether the weight is fat or muscle.
So this means that 80% of American are athletes!
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@wharrgarbl
So when bumping off people they should choose fat people ... you liberate 2 seats in one go
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@Luhmann said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
@wharrgarbl
So when bumping off people they should choose fat people ... you liberate 2 seats in one goDepends, if I were going to drag someone out, a lighter person would be easier.
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@wharrgarbl said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
@Luhmann said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
@wharrgarbl
So when bumping off people they should choose fat people ... you liberate 2 seats in one goDepends, if I were going to drag someone out, a lighter person would be easier.
But if you were going to roll someone out, a rounder person would be easier.
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@anotherusername said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
roll someone out,
Or you have a bigger chance of getting stuck in between chairs or in doorways
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@cheong said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
@wharrgarbl said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
@coldandtired Plane seats are ridiculous, it's not like obese or large people are rare. There is a reason couches aren't made that size.
So if you are obese people and you want comfortable flight, they can make you buy two seats.
Btw, I wonder if I were those obese people who needs two seat so I bought two, and the flight is later found overbooked, will any flight attendant ask me to give away one of the seats so they can put another passenger in? Is the poor man sitting in the middle on that news one of these "extra passenger"?
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@wharrgarbl said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
@heterodox They do it after the person boarded the plane? So what they do if they don't have money, throw the guy out of the plane?
They do it when exchanging ticket for boarding pass. It's visible that for some of those people, one seat won't fit.
And the airline staffs legally at their right to request them buy two tickets, because without two seats, they can't possibly tie their safety belt. And by occupying two seats, they need two tickets, much like you'll need extra seat for large musical instruments.
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@wharrgarbl Seems the width of seat for economy class is pretty constant across the airlines with most at around 17 inches (minimum 16 inches)
Also, you'd think that they should make the seat of distance flight wider (because afterall you 'd have to sit and possibly sleep there for long time), but it's not. A lot of airlines make their long distance flight seat narrower than short distance variants, so if I'm that fat and need to travel to far countries, I'd probably choose to buy two seats too.
I have no idea what seat width would be needed for those 300+ pounds people.
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@cheong Apparently airlines are assholes that will screw you as much as they can. I'm glad everyone I want is at car distance.
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@coldandtired said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
I suppose a government could enforce healthier food, or educate kids to eat healthier, or provide free health care. That would reduce the number of obese people. Then again, those things sound like socialism/communism and both those things are bad.
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@cheong said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
much like you'll need extra seat for large musical instruments.
I thought they just smashed those
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@Shoreline said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
I suppose a government could enforce healthier food, or educate kids to eat healthier, or provide free health care. That would reduce the number of obese people. Then again, those things sound like socialism/communism and both those things are bad.
Does "free health care" include liposuction or something? But yeah, both of those things are bad.
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An oldie (possibly NSFW)
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@boomzilla said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
Perhaps we should just seal off Chicago and forget about it.
Isn't that the basic plot point for the
???spoiler
Divergent series
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@Polygeekery said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
rabbits for meat
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@antiquarian said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
@Shoreline said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
In other news, Trump told a lie.
How do you know when a politician is lying?
His lips move.Is this a pick only two out of three: liar, politician, ventriloquist?
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@coldandtired said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
A man in Australia is suing American Airlines after he was seated next to two obese people for a fourteen-hour flight – an ordeal which he claims caused permanent back and neck injuries.
TRWTF is using an en-dash to separate closely related clauses. An em-dash is the correct symbol for this situation.
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@djls45 said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
TRWTF is using an en-dash to separate closely related clauses. An em-dash is the correct symbol for this situation.
Have you ever wondered why you have no friends?
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@hungrier said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
@cheong said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
much like you'll need extra seat for large musical instruments.
I thought they just smashed those
They would if the instrument were not travelling with you as hand carry luggage.
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@boomzilla said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
@djls45 said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
TRWTF is using an en-dash to separate closely related clauses. An em-dash is the correct symbol for this situation.
Have you ever wondered why you have no friends?
Aren't we all his friends?
And we do care about this kind of stuff!
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@kt_ said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
Aren't we all his friends?
E_PARSE_ERROR: Ambiguous Modifier
Aren't {we all} his friends?
Perhaps...? I hope so.
Aren't we {all his friends}?
No, I have other friends. ...... maybe ...... if they're not all in my head ......
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@boomzilla said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
@Shoreline said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
I suppose a government could enforce healthier food, or educate kids to eat healthier, or provide free health care. That would reduce the number of obese people. Then again, those things sound like socialism/communism and both those things are bad.
Does "free health care" include liposuction or something? But yeah, both of those things are bad.
If it's life-threatening, might be a good idea.
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@coldandtired said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
It just keeps getting better and better.
@wharrgarbl, maybe you'd like to demand a certain CEO to resign, again? :)
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Surprised this wasn't mentioned up thread:
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@coldandtired all I see is a douchebag who thought he could bully an airport worker into giving him answers for why his bulky bag cost more on the return flight than it did on the outbound flight, when the only answer she could give him was most probably "it just does, I already explained the pricing to you twice, and if you don't like it get the fuck out of my line because there are other customers waiting".
My money goes on the bag being heavier on the return trip than it was on the flight out, but even if UA just randomly decided to increase the cost of checked baggage, what right would that give him to harass the baggage check employee over it?
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@anotherusername I didn't watch it. Airline stuff just pops up everywhere at the moment.
That said, being technically right (if indeed the employee was) isn't really the way they should be playing things at the moment.
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@anotherusername doesn't change the fact that sh reacted in an unprofessional manner at a time where every such an event will get publicized.
American Airlines just keep on giving.
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@coldandtired not a good year for united, huh?
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@coldandtired said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
http://www.sfgate.com/national/article/United-passenger-Attendants-forced-me-to-pee-in-11136499.php
I love this one because you know the woman got lippy with the flight attendant, and the flight attendant called her bluff.
"I have to use the restroom"
"Sorry ma'am, we are in line for take off. Everyone has to stay in their seat. As soon as we are up to altitude you can use the restroom."
"I have to pee right now. I would pee in a cup if I had one."
"Here ya go." -hands her a cup-"UNITED AIRLINES FORCED ME TO PEE IN A CUP1!!!11!"
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@Polygeekery yeah, most of this stuff about United that fuels headlines recently is something that no one would find even remotely interesting if not for the whole Dao debacle and the few minor slips they had along the way (culminating in the thrilling Death of a Bunny episode).
They did shoot themselves in the foot with that one. Now they're up for a lot of pain.
Fuck it, let us don't feel for them. All I've learnt from this whole thing is that American airline companies are awful so they should suffer. Fuck them. In the ass. With a large purple dildo. Of a cactus shape. DP. With no lubricant. On a scorching desert. With no water. While they're completely naked and covered with some stuff that snakes and other dangerous animals you can find on the desert love.
But that's just my opinion.
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@kt_ said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
All I've learnt from this whole thing is that American airline companies are awful so they should suffer.
FWIW, I have always had good service with Southwest and American Airlines. I don't know if I have ever flown on United.
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@Polygeekery said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
@kt_ said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
All I've learnt from this whole thing is that American airline companies are awful so they should suffer.
FWIW, I have always had good service with Southwest and American Airlines. I don't know if I have ever flown on United.
Have you ever been bumped?
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@Polygeekery said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
@kt_ said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
All I've learnt from this whole thing is that American airline companies are awful so they should suffer.
FWIW, I have always had good service with Southwest and American Airlines. I don't know if I have ever flown on United.
I recall Alaska Air as pretty good back in 96. Seattle to Anchorage I had an ordinary seat with pretty generous leg-room, some tasty food, and so on. On the way back, I was in an emergency exit row with so much leg-room I couldn't reach the seat in front of me with my feet.
Piedmont in 1985 wasn't bad, either. Not great, but not bad. Would have been better if I hadn't been seated in the window seat with the other two seats occupied by unaccompanied children of around 9-10 years old. The one next to me spent the entire leg of the flight from somewhere in North Carolina to Orlando swinging his legs back and forth, and insisted that he wasn't kicking me.
But People Express was awful.
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@kt_ said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
@Polygeekery said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
@kt_ said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
All I've learnt from this whole thing is that American airline companies are awful so they should suffer.
FWIW, I have always had good service with Southwest and American Airlines. I don't know if I have ever flown on United.
Have you ever been bumped?
Back when People Express was a thing, I knew a guy who only paid for one ticket on People Express the whole time I knew him, but flew back and forth between home (Orlando) and college (RPI, Troy NY) on PE every time. Glutton for punishment, I'd say, because they screwed up his flights one way or another every damned time. He got bumped, lost luggage, flights disrupted by weather, the works, and they gave him a free ticket to make up for it each time.
Horrible airline, though.
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@Polygeekery said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
@coldandtired said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
http://www.sfgate.com/national/article/United-passenger-Attendants-forced-me-to-pee-in-11136499.php
I love this one because you know the woman got lippy with the flight attendant, and the flight attendant called her bluff.
"I have to use the restroom"
"Sorry ma'am, we are in line for take off. Everyone has to stay in their seat. As soon as we are up to altitude you can use the restroom."
"I have to pee right now. I would pee in a cup if I had one."
"Here ya go." -hands her a cup-"UNITED AIRLINES FORCED ME TO PEE IN A CUP1!!!11!"
I call bullshit on no spillage. Under ideal circumstances there is always spillage.
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@kt_ said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
Have you ever been bumped?
That's a very personal question...
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The airline blames the pilots for a work slowdown related to contract negotiations.
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@Karla said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
@Polygeekery said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
@coldandtired said in United Airlines: the airline we love to hate, but we can't agree on why:
http://www.sfgate.com/national/article/United-passenger-Attendants-forced-me-to-pee-in-11136499.php
I love this one because you know the woman got lippy with the flight attendant, and the flight attendant called her bluff.
"I have to use the restroom"
"Sorry ma'am, we are in line for take off. Everyone has to stay in their seat. As soon as we are up to altitude you can use the restroom."
"I have to pee right now. I would pee in a cup if I had one."
"Here ya go." -hands her a cup-"UNITED AIRLINES FORCED ME TO PEE IN A CUP1!!!11!"
I call bullshit on no spillage. Under ideal circumstances there is always spillage.
Are you assuming that she's a vagina-woman just because she showed you her pronouns?
I've heard that an overactive bladder is a common side-effect of some transitioning hormones...