What the hell web browser is this idiot using?
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@sloosecannon It was you mother sucking my massive trans-racial black cock that happens to be a white cock.
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@lucas1 said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
And I told him, and then I suggested what he should do to avoid the situation again. Which is a pro-active thing to do.
But what you suggested wouldn't help.
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@sloosecannon said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
@lucas1 said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
@sloosecannon said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
And also requires man-hours and time to implement, plus red tape to enable.
LOL 1 line in code in .NET.
And hours, days even, of red tape.
Not even that. I could totally just go add a real error screen and advanced logging on my own authority. But I'm not going to because:
- I almost assuredly don't have accurate source code for this
- It's a fucking discontinued product
- I don't fucking care about it
- My bosses don't fucking care about it
- Nobody in the right fucking mind should care about it
- The user is fucking wrong anyway
- Most crucially, I have a list of about a thousand things that are more important, which I do have accurate source for, aren't discontinued, I care about, my bosses care about, other people care about and which have users who aren't trying to use a special snowflake web browser that isn't officially supported by literally any internal web apps.
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@Weng so it is a problem you want to have enough excuses not to solve.
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@Weng said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
@sloosecannon said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
@lucas1 said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
@sloosecannon said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
And also requires man-hours and time to implement, plus red tape to enable.
LOL 1 line in code in .NET.
And hours, days even, of red tape.
Not even that. I could totally just go add a real error screen and advanced logging on my own authority. But I'm not going to because:
- I almost assuredly don't have accurate source code for this
- It's a fucking discontinued product
- I don't fucking care about it
- My bosses don't fucking care about it
- Nobody in the right fucking mind should care about it
- The user is fucking wrong anyway
- Most crucially, I have a list of about a thousand things that are more important, which I do have accurate source for, aren't discontinued, I care about, my bosses care about, other people care about and which have users who aren't trying to use a special snowflake web browser that isn't officially supported by literally any internal web apps.
I'm actually impressed that WTFCorp has managed to find one of the very few actual differences between Opera and Chrome, actually. 99.999999999999% of the time they're exactly the same!
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@lucas1
Not in this case, where the request is being rejected by the IIS (or Apache, but since @Weng called out NTLM/Negotiate, I'm assuming IIS) Web Service before it even hits your application code. That's kind of what Web Site (.htaccess) authentication does...
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@sloosecannon They are doing a UA check and it doesn't equal chrome. Even if that is what is happening. But we won't really know because nobody did any logging.
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@izzion IIS doesn't have htaccess. You can still log it.
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@lucas1 said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
@sloosecannon They are doing a UA check and it doesn't equal chrome. Even if that is what is happening. But we won't really know because nobody did any logging.
No, it's because NTLM authentication isn't supported by Opera.
That's discussed above.
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@sloosecannon said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
No, it's because NTLM authentication isn't supported by Opera.
It defaults to user / pass you moron.
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@sloosecannon said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
@lucas1 said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
@loopback0 It was.
I thought it was Opera?
Nah man, it's Opera.
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@loopback0 I heard it was opera as well.
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@sloosecannon said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
logging the ua isn't gonna give you jack shit.
depends on the axe.
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@xaade Surely you should be using the Sky Crane ...
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@sloosecannon said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
Apparently. From initial googling, anyways
Hm? You must be looking at old results then (from before the switch to Chromium), since my Google search told me the exact opposite. Might be behind a about:config flag, though.
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@asdf said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
@sloosecannon said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
Apparently. From initial googling, anyways
Hm? You must be looking at old results then (from before the switch to Chromium), since my Google search told me the exact opposite. Might be behind a about:config flag, though.
Yeah, my results look old. But maybe they never changed default behavior when they switched to WebKit?
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@sloosecannon said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
But maybe they never changed default behavior when they switched to WebKit?
They might have it off by default (behind an about:config flag), but since Chromium supports NTLM and Opera is based on Chromium there must be some way to enable it.
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@asdf said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
@sloosecannon said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
But maybe they never changed default behavior when they switched to WebKit?
They might have it off by default (behind an about:config flag), but since Chromium supports NTLM and Opera is based on Chromium there must be some way to enable it.
Yeah.
idk.
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@lucas1 said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
@sloosecannon said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
No, it's because NTLM authentication isn't supported by Opera.
It defaults to user / pass you moron.
I don't think you understand what NTLM authentication is. It's a completely different animal from what you're thinking of.
With NTLM, your browser doesn't even ask for username / password. It uses your current Windows login to authenticate your session.
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Impossible apparently
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@anotherusername It asks for it and then adds a cookie or similar to your browser.
I've been doing similar stuff with Google and Twitter stuff for years now.
The only large difference between NTLM and other single sign on i.e OAuth is one is Microsoft the others aren't/
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@lucas1 it doesn't prompt the user at all; it's negotiated between the site and the browser, using the user's Windows domain username. Then, yes, it sets a cookie saying you're authenticated, just like any other authentication method. But what happens before that is different.
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@anotherusername Fair enough you are right, my mistake I thought it was the old MS auth of old.
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Hey at least it's not Vivaldi (best browser btw).
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As someone who mainlines Opera with a soupçon of Vivaldi, I'm feeling very microaggressed.
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@Maciejasjmj said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
@Weng said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
Also, this 403
...is 401, which is so much fun when coding auth.
One of our common libraries throws 401 when the user isn't in the right role to view the page. That gets apparently intercepted by the OWIN middleware (I think...?) and interpreted as "oh, hey, I guess you aren't logged in? Here's a nickel, kid, go to Microsoft, tell them I sent you and ask for a token". Microsoft's landing page sees the browser, but it also sees the cookie, so it just says "hey, what do you want from me, you're already authenticated, here's your token and go back to where you came from". Which of course leads to the page that threw 401 in the first place.
Yeah, that's the sort of bullshit that traps people on a login page in our current site, and I haven't had time to fix it.
Like, of course they can't access that because no privs. Fine. But don't shove them into a login page when they're already logged in!
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@anonymous234 said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
Hey at least it's not Vivaldi (best browser btw).
Say, good sir, do you want to start an elite club of Vivaldi users? We can snark at other inferior browser users while having tea and crumpets. snort
Filed under: We are the 0.2 percent!, Classic master race!
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@Onyx Sadly I can't even use it on my tablet... it does not seem to support pinch to zoom on pages and the keyboard does not pop up when I tap a text field :( .
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@Onyx said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
Classic master race!
I ed Dragonfly (the developer tools). At the time, they were so much better than anything else.
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@anonymous234 said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
If your site breaks on Opera it will break on Chrome
wrong as shit.
Opera is worthlessly awful. I have seen plenty of things that fail to work in Opera but work in every other browser, INCLUDING IE
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@sloosecannon said in What the hell web browser is this idiot using?:
Lol, which part of "bullshit unmaintained, unmaintainable legacy trash" did you not understand?
asking lucas what he doesn't understand about a conversation in english?
It'd be a much shorter answer if you ask him to tell you the parts he does understand.