When arguments about GPUs go too far
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@RaceProUK Looking at it a little differently, a man was sent to prison because the judge didn't agree with his opinion of which GPU was superior.
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Hah, nVidia won! (Like always)
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@RaceProUK Shit... I didn't realize it was even a competition... Nvidia has been ahead for so long...
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@aliceif
I mean, the nVidia guy is dead. I think 9.5 years in prison and a lifetime of being a felon is "winning", relative to that.
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@aliceif said in When arguments about GPUs go too far:
Hah, nVidia won! (Like always)
Yeah, against AMD. That's like winning against a Chihuahua.
I'd like to see Nvidia take on Intel.
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@anonymous234 What are you talking about? Intel GPUs are a joke, and a bad one at that. They're the Internet Explorer of GPUs, what you use while installing the drivers for a real GPU.
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@Kian said in When arguments about GPUs go too far:
Intel GPUs are a joke
They're not a joke, they're low-end integrated GPUs, it's an entirely different market.
What I meant is I'd like to see them (or anyone really) take on Intel CPUs and win. Maybe an Nvidia/AMD partnership. That would be funny.
I don't like that Intel is literally 10x bigger than AMD + Nvidia + ARM Holdings put together.
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@RaceProUK "Trofimov, for the record, was the Nvidia fan."
See, Nvidia people are assholes
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@fbmac said in When arguments about GPUs go too far:
See, Nvidia people are assholes
TIL I'm an asshole.
OK, I admit, I knew that already.
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@anonymous234 said in When arguments about GPUs go too far:
Maybe an Nvidia/AMD partnership. That would be funny.
Yeah, AMD should form a partnership with a GPU maker. Even better, they should just outright acquire a GPU maker.
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@anonymous234 said in When arguments about GPUs go too far:
I don't like that Intel is literally 10x bigger than AMD + Nvidia + ARM Holdings put together.
I'm not sure why you add ARM into that mix; they don't own fabs, and physical manufacturing makes for a large firm (but with a lot of capital tied up in equipment, etc). Virtual operators have much better profit margins. Also, the markets targeted by ARM are totally different, most of which are doing ARM cores integrated with other specialist stuff that is very specific to a particular application area. In a real sense, ARM make the designs for the generic parts of lots of very non-generic chips.
We're an ARM licensee. We use their stuff, and our secret sauce is in the area of super low-power math, memory management and our comms fabric. Even if Intel licensed their stuff out, we wouldn't be interested as it is far too power hungry.
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@dkf said in When arguments about GPUs go too far:
I'm not sure why you add ARM into that mix; they don't own fabs, and physical manufacturing makes for a large firm
I assumed they were the ones that did most of the research and stuff that makes ARM processors faster and better and thus potentially able to replace x86 on the desktop one day.
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@anonymous234 said in When arguments about GPUs go too far:
I assumed they were the ones that did most of the research and stuff that makes ARM processors faster and better and thus potentially able to replace x86 on the desktop one day.
That's really not their focus. They do embedded systems and supercomputers (because of the very good Mips/Watt rating).
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@dkf said in When arguments about GPUs go too far:
They do embedded systems and supercomputers
And smartphones. Also, the Nintendo GBA, DS, 3DS, and Switch.
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@RaceProUK The smartphones are an extension of the embedded system stuff; the components that they're embedded with are (particularly) the radio comms controller, which is mostly some sort of custom DSP.
The consoles are an off-beat market for them. And small potatoes.
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@dkf said in When arguments about GPUs go too far:
That's really not their focus
But maybe it should? I want to run the same programs in my phone and desktop without recompiling!
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@RaceProUK said in When arguments about GPUs go too far:
@fbmac said in When arguments about GPUs go too far:
See, Nvidia people are assholes
TIL I'm an asshole.
OK, I admit, I knew that already.
Linus Torvalds: Nvidia, Fuck You! – 00:41
— SiliconNews
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@fbmac said in When arguments about GPUs go too far:
Linus Torvalds: Nvidia, Fuck You!
Does that mean NVidia has to give him money now?
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@RaceProUK I think he was just asking for the specs for writing the drivers or something.
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@izzion said in When arguments about GPUs go too far:
@aliceif
I mean, the nVidia guy is dead.Uh, no?
Trofimov hit Lylin in the head twice, stabbed him to death, and then kept stabbing him 11 more times before burning his body in an attempt to hide the evidence. Trofimov, for the record, was the Nvidia fan.
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@aliceif
Reading, how does it work?
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@izzion said in When arguments about GPUs go too far:
@aliceif
Reading, how does it work?Sorry, this keeps me from thinking about it.
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@izzion said in When arguments about GPUs go too far:
@aliceif
Reading, how does it work?Better than an AMD GPU?
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@izzion said in When arguments about GPUs go too far:
@aliceif
Reading, how does it work?About as well as Slough
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@loopback0 I'm not even sure the GPUs are all that bad, since specwise they even seem to win occasionally.
But they have the worst drivers ever.
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@anonymous234 said in When arguments about GPUs go too far:
What I meant is I'd like to see them (or anyone really) take on Intel CPUs and win.
I suppose you already know about AMD Ryzen. Of course, that's not really "winning", but it's nice to know there's some competition back in the CPU market.