Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?
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Opera got it right in 2007. Edge gets it right. Firefox gets it partially right. But somehow, Chrome gets it all wrong.
I don't want my browser to try and guess what sites I might be interested in. I want to be able to define, myself, what sites I am interested it. And that means I want this button:
Is that really so much to ask?
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Opera still has the button.
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https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/replace-new-tab-page/cnkhddihkmmiiclaipbaaelfojkmlkja
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FileUnder: Extensions, learn how to use them !
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I never use the new tab page except to check Google+ notifications. Also the most frequent pages I visit are ones that I just type a single letter in the address bar and press enter and Chrome autocompletes the right thing.
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@TimeBandit said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
FileUnder: Extensions, learn how to use them !
That reminds me of that time when someone showed me this impressive FF extension that adds this cool new thing called "speed dial" to prove to me how FF is the best thing since sliced bread.
This was several months after Opera implemented it as a core feature.
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@anonymous234 said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
Is that really so much to ask?
Yes, websites are so 2015, and we don't support these anymore. Now you install apps on your phone for everything, so we can collect your data. You've nothing to hide, right?
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@fbmac said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
Yes, websites are so 2015, and we don't support these anymore. Now you install apps on your phone for everything, so we can collect your data.
Hmm, I'm not entirely sure if that's what Google wants. I think they're trying to pull both the "website" model and the "phone apps" model together because they want to combine Android and Chrome somehow.
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@anonymous234 it maybe not what Google want, but every fucking site loves to show a "install our app" message
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@fbmac said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
@anonymous234 it maybe not what Google want, but every fucking site loves to show a "install our
appembedded webview" messageFTFR
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@TimeBandit said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
FileUnder: Extensions, learn how to use them !
QFMFT
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@accalia said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
@TimeBandit said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
FileUnder:
Extensions, learn how to use them !Browsers, stop forgetting how to develop them!QFMFT
FTMFTFY
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@fbmac said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
@anonymous234 it maybe not what Google want, but every fucking site loves to show a "install our app" message
USA Today is the worst (INB4 I'm the worst for reading USA Today). Their app takes you to web pages that ask you to install the app.
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@bb36e said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
@accalia said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
@TimeBandit said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
FileUnder:
Extensions, learn how to use them !Browsers, stop forgetting how to develop them!QFMFT
FTMFTFY
Fixed for you, maybe. not for me.
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Is that what speed dial is? Every time I saw that phrase I thought it might be some bandwidth/internet speed limiter, not a quick links thing.
Opera was before its time, conflating phones with internet stuff.
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@coderpatsy Opera also had desktop widgets before they became popular.
No, wait. They never became popular.
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@Wukl said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
Opera still has the button.
But they've removed speed dial functionality, like in pretty much every other area.
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@coldandtired said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
@Wukl said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
Opera still has the button.
But they've removed speed dial functionality, like in pretty much every other area.
You sure?
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@RaceProUK I didn't mean they removed it completely. It used to allow you to add sites you already had open in other tabs, or had closed recently. Now it only offers extensions and 'helpful' sites.
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I use the blank new page in Firefox, but I use the bookmarks toolbar. Which I can add to, remove from, reorder, even put folders of bookmarks and live-refreshing RSS feeds on. And no ads.
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From forgotten Bro'ser dread Sleipnir calls with the voice of a thousand mad pipers.
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@marczellm said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
and live-refreshing RSS feeds
Ah, I remember RSS... then Google and Microsoft killed it.
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@coderpatsy said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
Is that what speed dial is?
It comes from the era of early cellphones - you'd add friends and family to speed dial, and cynically, you'd add pizza delivery places too.
EDIT: I've had brainfarts like this too. I thought this was just a language barrier thing.
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@LB_ Yes, I know what speed dial is in the context of phones (though I know of it with landline phones), I just never mentally connected that with what browsers were doing. My brain took dial to mean control knob and worked from there, and I never cared to ask just
the @Lorne-Kates equivalent of Opera users were complaining about.
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@coldandtired Not sure (because I don't use the speed dial much these days), but I just tried it and the dialog to add a page offers both a text field where you can put any address you want, and some of the pages that are currently open (or maybe that I visit often, I don't know).
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@coderpatsy said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
I never cared to ask just the @Lorne-Kates equivalent of Opera users were complaining about.
Fuck you, give me money too!
Filed under: @Lorne-Kates first, @Onyx second
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@remi But about three months ago you could click the 'add' button and it would populate the list with the tabs you had open or had recently closed, which was much more convenient. Now you have to open a tab, copy and select the address, then open the speed dial, click add and then paste the address. Not too bad for one site, but much less convenient for adding multiple sites in a row, and definitely a step backwards.
Now it show suggested sites, which is universally useless but I assume earns them something.
It is still possible to right-click a page and add it directly but you need to find an element which doesn't hijack the right-click.
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@LB_ said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
@coderpatsy said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
Is that what speed dial is?
It comes from the era of early cellphones
Uh...it was a phone thing before people had cellphones.
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@boomzilla said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
@LB_ said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
@coderpatsy said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
Is that what speed dial is?
It comes from the era of early cellphones
Uh...it was a phone thing before people had cellphones.
Uh... it was a phone thing before there were cellphones...
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Look guys, I know this is an unpopular thing to point out, but I'm trying to save you from having legal trouble...
Do you have a licence to open a pendant store?
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@NedFodder said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
@fbmac said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
@anonymous234 it maybe not what Google want, but every fucking site loves to show a "install our app" message
USA Today is the worst (INB4 I'm the worst for reading USA Today). Their app takes you to web pages that ask you to install the app.
USA Today is the worst for news (and has been since the first day it was published on effing paper, thirty five years ago). It's hardly likely their web and app offerings are going to be any better.
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@coldandtired Ah, OK. As I said, I don't use Speed Dial anymore (for some reason, a few years ago I was using it quite a lot and now I tend to keep the tabs open... go figure...), so I probably missed these changes.
OTOH, you're not really supposed to change what's in the Speed Dial every day, so it probably isn't too much of an issue that it is slightly more complicated to do? Still, unless there is a compelling reason for this change, I agree that it's a step backwards.
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@anonymous234 said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
@marczellm said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
and live-refreshing RSS feeds
Ah, I remember RSS... then Google and Microsoft killed it.
Still many blogs and sites support it.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
USA Today is the worst for news (and has been since the first day it was published on effing paper, thirty five years ago). It's hardly likely their web and app offerings are going to be any better.
Whatever the quality of their news reportage, I am unable to access web offerings at all, unless it happens to be mirrored on MSN, because every link redirects to service.usatoday.com/subscriptions/order/checkout... It's not an overlay that can be gotten around with dev tools; it's a 3xx redirect. Effing paywall.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
Uh... it was a phone thing before there were cellphones...
I thought I said that.
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@coldandtired said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
@RaceProUK I didn't mean they removed it completely. It used to allow you to add sites you already had open in other tabs, or had closed recently. Now it only offers extensions and 'helpful' sites.
You can add tabs to speed dial via "Add Bookmark" button. It actually defaults to speed dial, so it's literally single click.
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@boomzilla said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in Why can't browsers get Speed Dial right?:
Uh... it was a phone thing before there were cellphones...
I thought I said that.
before other people had cellphones, not just before you got one that was left on your lawn