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  • @asdf said in MUFFIN:

    I pity the soul who inherits this mess when you leave.

    Hey, I didn't build it. They'll be no worse (or better) off than I am now.



  • @cartman82 said in MUFFIN:

    @asdf said in MUFFIN:

    You want me to continue?

    Larger icons, which means: Easier to recognize, easier to hit (which is very important), easier to learn to hit frequently used options (try to rely on your muscle memory with menus, I dare you)
    The developer can easily highlight important options
    You slightly missed the point I was making when talking about contextual options. The additional ribbon bar when an image is selected in Microsoft Office is super-easy to discover.
    Visual grouping works way better

    Do you still want me to continue?
    Look, I get that you don't like them. Fine. But stop claiming they're worse.

    In reality both the ribbon and toolbar are annoying.

    The interface I want is a "search everything" box from sublime (and Visual Studio TBH). Attach Cortana or similar AI to it, and now we are talking.

    Dude:

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    @cartman82 said in MUFFIN:

    @asdf said in MUFFIN:

    You want me to continue?

    Larger icons, which means: Easier to recognize, easier to hit (which is very important), easier to learn to hit frequently used options (try to rely on your muscle memory with menus, I dare you)
    The developer can easily highlight important options
    You slightly missed the point I was making when talking about contextual options. The additional ribbon bar when an image is selected in Microsoft Office is super-easy to discover.
    Visual grouping works way better

    Do you still want me to continue?
    Look, I get that you don't like them. Fine. But stop claiming they're worse.

    In reality both the ribbon and toolbar are annoying.

    The interface I want is a "search everything" box from sublime (and Visual Studio TBH). Attach Cortana or similar AI to it, and now we are talking.

    The make desktop search great thread is :arrows:

    I don't disagree though. Well done hotkey menus make things easier in the long run.


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    @Onyx said in MUFFIN:

    @Steve_The_Cynic said in MUFFIN:

    4:3=> 8:5 => 16:9 => ???21:9

    Yes, really. No, I don't know why.

    I miss 16:10s, I like that ratio.

    There are petitions you can back to ask PC makers to start making 16:10 laptops again, but you can still get good 16:10 monitors.


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    @antiquarian said in MUFFIN:

    @kt_ said in MUFFIN:

    was the $ going overboard?

    Y ¥

    FTF¥


  • 🚽 Regular

    @HardwareGeek said in MUFFIN:

    tar -czvf foo.tgz files...
    tar -xzvf foo.tgz

    Those looked strange at a glimpse because the correct order is obviously -zcvf and zxvf.
    Because Qwerty keyboard.



  • @coldandtired said in MUFFIN:

    @antiquarian said in MUFFIN:

    There's a faction in the OSS community that believes making software usable means making it look like Microsoft products.

    Which is probably better than the usual

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    This comic is in my fondest memories. There was a time when the PHB's closing line was a reasonably accurate description of a lot of software out there. Things have improved.



  • @masonwheeler said in MUFFIN:

    So what's the difference between a muffin and a cupcake? 🛒

    Generally, you won't find cupcakes in a meadow (see also: road apple).



  • @asdf said in MUFFIN:

    And use the precious vertical space @masonwheeler is complaining about as well.

    You're using them wrong.
    I used to have the outline toolbar in office products anchored to the side of the window.


  • Dupa

    @loopback0 said in MUFFIN:

    @kt_ said in MUFFIN:

    @loopback0 said in MUFFIN:

    @masonwheeler Most people don't do serious work on tablets.

    It's different with surface books. I mean, its Windows 10 for crying out loud, of course you would want to be able to use it to its fullest. It is a mouse-and-keyboard interface after all. Being able to use it as a tablet is a perk, but that's all.

    Most people are buying Android and iOS tablets though. My point still stands.
    Most people don't care if their tablet comes with a keyboard or not because the main convenience of a tablet is that it's, well, a tablet and not a laptop.

    Sure. Surface book's no ordinary tablet, is my point. ;)


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @kt_ The dig at other manufacturers for not including a keyboard is still bullshit.


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election

    @aliceif said in MUFFIN:

    outline toolbar

    Isn't that a sidebar now?

    You're now getting the behavior you always wanted by default.



  • @tharpa said in MUFFIN:

    @coldandtired said in MUFFIN:

    @antiquarian said in MUFFIN:

    There's a faction in the OSS community that believes making software usable means making it look like Microsoft products.

    Which is probably better than the usual

    0_1485984925129_dt940930dhc0.gif

    This comic is in my fondest memories. There was a time when the PHB's closing line was a reasonably accurate description of a lot of software out there. Things have improved.

    They've certainly improved since the day I ran an installer, and it insisted I reboot before installing.

    (Yes, I know why it happened - an outstanding need-of-reboot indication. It was just such a contrast with all the other times I'd run an installer and it installed all its files and then asked for a reboot.)

    Or the day a colleague had an uninstaller that didn't correctly manage the refcount on MSVCRT.DLL, and uninstalled it on a Win2K box. The login dialog requires that DLL to exist, which made the machine ... difficult ... to log in to afterwards.



  • @HardwareGeek said in MUFFIN:

    camera == wireframe That's not even close to intuitive. Even Blender, which some people consider the poster child of bad UI design, is better than that:

    Ah, yes, Blender. Have they improved the open-a-file dialog box recently? I remember using it (on Windows) four or five years ago, and discovering there was no way to open a file using a UNC path. The only way to open a file over the network was to map a drive letter and use that. And the open-a-file box, of course, had no way to create such a mapping.



  • @Steve_The_Cynic said in MUFFIN:

    Or the day a colleague had an uninstaller that didn't correctly manage the refcount on MSVCRT.DLL, and uninstalled it on a Win2K box.

    50/50 chance it was the uninstaller. Some other installer could have fucked up during installation.



  • @Steve_The_Cynic said in MUFFIN:

    no way to open a file using a UNC path

    No clue. I've never tried to use it with non-local files.


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