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I pity the soul who inherits this mess when you leave.
Hey, I didn't build it. They'll be no worse (or better) off than I am now.
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@cartman82 said in MUFFIN:
You want me to continue?
Larger icons, which means: Easier to recognize, easier to hit (which is very important), easier to learn to hit frequently used options (try to rely on your muscle memory with menus, I dare you)
The developer can easily highlight important options
You slightly missed the point I was making when talking about contextual options. The additional ribbon bar when an image is selected in Microsoft Office is super-easy to discover.
Visual grouping works way betterDo you still want me to continue?
Look, I get that you don't like them. Fine. But stop claiming they're worse.In reality both the ribbon and toolbar are annoying.
The interface I want is a "search everything" box from sublime (and Visual Studio TBH). Attach Cortana or similar AI to it, and now we are talking.
Dude:
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@cartman82 said in MUFFIN:
You want me to continue?
Larger icons, which means: Easier to recognize, easier to hit (which is very important), easier to learn to hit frequently used options (try to rely on your muscle memory with menus, I dare you)
The developer can easily highlight important options
You slightly missed the point I was making when talking about contextual options. The additional ribbon bar when an image is selected in Microsoft Office is super-easy to discover.
Visual grouping works way betterDo you still want me to continue?
Look, I get that you don't like them. Fine. But stop claiming they're worse.In reality both the ribbon and toolbar are annoying.
The interface I want is a "search everything" box from sublime (and Visual Studio TBH). Attach Cortana or similar AI to it, and now we are talking.
The make desktop search great thread is
I don't disagree though. Well done hotkey menus make things easier in the long run.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in MUFFIN:
4:3=> 8:5 => 16:9 =>
???21:9Yes, really. No, I don't know why.
I miss 16:10s, I like that ratio.
There are petitions you can back to ask PC makers to start making 16:10 laptops again, but you can still get good 16:10 monitors.
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@HardwareGeek said in MUFFIN:
tar -czvf foo.tgz files...
tar -xzvf foo.tgz
Those looked strange at a glimpse because the correct order is obviously
-zcvf
andzxvf
.
Because Qwerty keyboard.
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@coldandtired said in MUFFIN:
@antiquarian said in MUFFIN:
There's a faction in the OSS community that believes making software usable means making it look like Microsoft products.
Which is probably better than the usual
This comic is in my fondest memories. There was a time when the PHB's closing line was a reasonably accurate description of a lot of software out there. Things have improved.
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@masonwheeler said in MUFFIN:
So what's the difference between a muffin and a cupcake?
Generally, you won't find cupcakes in a meadow (see also: road apple).
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And use the precious vertical space @masonwheeler is complaining about as well.
You're using them wrong.
I used to have the outline toolbar in office products anchored to the side of the window.
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@loopback0 said in MUFFIN:
@loopback0 said in MUFFIN:
@masonwheeler Most people don't do serious work on tablets.
It's different with surface books. I mean, its Windows 10 for crying out loud, of course you would want to be able to use it to its fullest. It is a mouse-and-keyboard interface after all. Being able to use it as a tablet is a perk, but that's all.
Most people are buying Android and iOS tablets though. My point still stands.
Most people don't care if their tablet comes with a keyboard or not because the main convenience of a tablet is that it's, well, a tablet and not a laptop.Sure. Surface book's no ordinary tablet, is my point. ;)
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@kt_ The dig at other manufacturers for not including a keyboard is still bullshit.
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outline toolbar
Isn't that a sidebar now?
You're now getting the behavior you always wanted by default.
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@coldandtired said in MUFFIN:
@antiquarian said in MUFFIN:
There's a faction in the OSS community that believes making software usable means making it look like Microsoft products.
Which is probably better than the usual
This comic is in my fondest memories. There was a time when the PHB's closing line was a reasonably accurate description of a lot of software out there. Things have improved.
They've certainly improved since the day I ran an installer, and it insisted I reboot before installing.
(Yes, I know why it happened - an outstanding need-of-reboot indication. It was just such a contrast with all the other times I'd run an installer and it installed all its files and then asked for a reboot.)
Or the day a colleague had an uninstaller that didn't correctly manage the refcount on MSVCRT.DLL, and uninstalled it on a Win2K box. The login dialog requires that DLL to exist, which made the machine ... difficult ... to log in to afterwards.
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@HardwareGeek said in MUFFIN:
camera == wireframe That's not even close to intuitive. Even Blender, which some people consider the poster child of bad UI design, is better than that:
Ah, yes, Blender. Have they improved the open-a-file dialog box recently? I remember using it (on Windows) four or five years ago, and discovering there was no way to open a file using a UNC path. The only way to open a file over the network was to map a drive letter and use that. And the open-a-file box, of course, had no way to create such a mapping.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in MUFFIN:
Or the day a colleague had an uninstaller that didn't correctly manage the refcount on MSVCRT.DLL, and uninstalled it on a Win2K box.
50/50 chance it was the uninstaller. Some other installer could have fucked up during installation.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in MUFFIN:
no way to open a file using a UNC path
No clue. I've never tried to use it with non-local files.