A fool and his actual money are soon parted
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@izzion OTOH, Lego!
OTOH, Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings.
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@GOG Would you rather a Lego set based on Rings of Power?
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@hungrier There is no work or product called Rings of Power, and the Computer does not like when you talk about things that do not exist, Friend Citizen.
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@GOG said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings.
Really? The hobbit trilogy was meh, but that's the first time I hear complaints about LotR.
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@GOG said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
There is no work or product called Rings of Power
To be fair, I don't know too many people that'd want a Lego set based off this old Sega Genesis RPG.
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@GOG said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@hungrier There is no work or product called Rings of Power, and the Computer does not like when you talk about things that do not exist, Friend Citizen.
There is pizza, on the common floor.
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@ChaosTheEternal said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@GOG said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
There is no work or product called Rings of Power
To be fair, I don't know too many people that'd want a Lego set based off this old Sega Genesis RPG.
As far as a product goes, well, there are plenty of latex notions manufacturers in the Chicago belt.
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@topspin said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
The hobbit trilogy was meh, but that's the first time I hear complaints about LotR.
I really wanted to like it, but by the time The Two Towers hit, all I wanted to do is throttle Jackson with his own entrails. ROTK got a hard pass after that.
I tried watching the Hobbit, but gave up after the first movie.
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@GOG Did you read the books first? Common mistake. Always watch the movie first, even if it's 10 years before you even learn a movie is in the works.
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@Medinoc said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@GOG Did you read the books first? Common mistake. Always watch the movie first, even if it's 10 years before you even learn a movie is in the works.
I learned a decade after watching that Soylent Green was based on a book. I was never so disappointed by a book in all my life.
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@Medinoc Instructions unclear. Ten years before movie was in the works I was arguing with friends about whether making a cinematic trilogy would be feasible.
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@GOG said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@Medinoc Instructions unclear. Ten years before movie was in the works I was arguing with friends about whether making a cinematic trilogy would be feasible.
The recent Dune happened despite of that. Granted, it's only two parts but still.
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@Rhywden said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@GOG said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@Medinoc Instructions unclear. Ten years before movie was in the works I was arguing with friends about whether making a cinematic trilogy would be feasible.
The recent Dune happened despite of that. Granted, it's only two parts but still.
Yeah, but it's also awful, unlike LotR.
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@Rhywden said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@GOG said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@Medinoc Instructions unclear. Ten years before movie was in the works I was arguing with friends about whether making a cinematic trilogy would be feasible.
The recent Dune happened despite of that. Granted, it's only two parts but still.
When they made LOTR 20 years ago, it was an open question whether filming all three movies at once, then splitting it up for release would work economically.
Obviously it did. They made a bunch of money, so other films (like the new Dune) have been willing to use that strategy.
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My problem is that whenever people talk about films of LOTR, I tend to think first of Raplh Bakshi's version.
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@MrL said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@Rhywden said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@GOG said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@Medinoc Instructions unclear. Ten years before movie was in the works I was arguing with friends about whether making a cinematic trilogy would be feasible.
The recent Dune happened despite of that. Granted, it's only two parts but still.
Yeah, but it's also awful, unlike LotR.
Yeah, yeah, I know, the purists never like anything.
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@Rhywden said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@GOG said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@Medinoc Instructions unclear. Ten years before movie was in the works I was arguing with friends about whether making a cinematic trilogy would be feasible.
The recent Dune happened despite of that. Granted, it's only two parts but still.
When they made LOTR 20 years ago, it was an open question whether filming all three movies at once, then splitting it up for release would work economically.
Obviously it did. They made a bunch of money, so other films (like the new Dune) have been willing to use that strategy.
You do know that they only greenlit the first part under the condition that a 2nd part would only follow if the 1st part was successful?
As a result, the 2nd part had not been filmed and is probably only now wrapping up.
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@Rhywden said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@GuyWhoKilledBear said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@Rhywden said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@GOG said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@Medinoc Instructions unclear. Ten years before movie was in the works I was arguing with friends about whether making a cinematic trilogy would be feasible.
The recent Dune happened despite of that. Granted, it's only two parts but still.
When they made LOTR 20 years ago, it was an open question whether filming all three movies at once, then splitting it up for release would work economically.
Obviously it did. They made a bunch of money, so other films (like the new Dune) have been willing to use that strategy.
You do know that they only greenlit the first part under the condition that a 2nd part would only follow if the 1st part was successful?
As a result, the 2nd part had not been filmed and is probably only now wrapping up.
Yeah, Dune used a variation on the strategy where they split a single work into multiple parts and filmed them separately.
There are ample examples of films where the producers saw the success of the LOTR films and split a single book into multiple films. Harry Potter 7 Parts 1 and 2 is the most prominent example, but they did that with a bunch of other movies too. The last Twilight movie was done in two parts, for example. Sticking with Tolkien, The Hobbit was made into three parts.
You're complaining about a conversation about whether they could shoot LOTR as three movies that happened almost 40 years ago.
The way they make movies now is different, and part of that difference is that they saw how well the LOTR films worked.
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@Rhywden said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@MrL said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@Rhywden said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@GOG said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@Medinoc Instructions unclear. Ten years before movie was in the works I was arguing with friends about whether making a cinematic trilogy would be feasible.
The recent Dune happened despite of that. Granted, it's only two parts but still.
Yeah, but it's also awful, unlike LotR.
Yeah, yeah, I know, the purists never like anything.
Actually I don't like Dune the book. I think it's a shitty story, told in the most boring way possible. I was hoping that Villeneuve would be able to make an enjoyable movie out of it. Alas.
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@MrL said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@Rhywden said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@GOG said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@Medinoc Instructions unclear. Ten years before movie was in the works I was arguing with friends about whether making a cinematic trilogy would be feasible.
The recent Dune happened despite of that. Granted, it's only two parts but still.
Yeah, but it's also awful, unlike LotR.
Toby Faire, so was the book. It's gotta be the most tedious work of sci-fi I've ever read.
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What do you know, being a minority partner puts you in a disadvantageous position if the senior partner decides to screw you…
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@izzion said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
What do you know, being a minority partner puts you in a disadvantageous position if the senior partner decides to screw you…
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@MrL and thusly you have failed the Gom Jabbar.
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@Mason_Wheeler said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@MrL said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@Rhywden said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@GOG said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@Medinoc Instructions unclear. Ten years before movie was in the works I was arguing with friends about whether making a cinematic trilogy would be feasible.
The recent Dune happened despite of that. Granted, it's only two parts but still.
Yeah, but it's also awful, unlike LotR.
Toby Faire, so was the book. It's gotta be the most tedious work of sci-fi I've ever read.
Read others of Herbert's work, and you might reevaluate your feelings about "Dune". The one that broke my camel's back was "The Jesus Incident", I could never make it through that one.
Herbert, IMO great ideas but poor execution.
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@Bim-Zively said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
The Jesus Incident
If I ever read that, I've long forgotten it, but I quite liked Dune when I read it decades ago. What I found tedious was The Silmarillion — great story, but needed a much better editor than Chris Tolkien. It's really not necessary to identify every object encountered in every language known to Middle Earth every time they're encountered.
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@HardwareGeek said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@Bim-Zively said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
The Jesus Incident
If I ever read that, I've long forgotten it, but I quite liked Dune when I read it decades ago. What I found tedious was The Silmarillion — great story, but needed a much better editor than Chris Tolkien. It's really not necessary to identify every object encountered in every language known to Middle Earth every time they're encountered.
I liked Dune - at least the first books. I forget where it was when it felt like "jeez, will it ever end...". I agree with The Silmarillion, barely made it thru that. And I know I read The Jesus Incident (it's on my shelf), but it was probably 30 to 40 years ago...
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@dcon said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
at least the first books
I'd completely forgotten there were additional books. I guess that says something about how memorable they were — or about how bad my memory is. I think I read two of the sequels, maybe. I don't remember how many sequels there are [Edit: Wikipedia says Herbert wrote 5 sequels], but clearly I didn't find them compelling enough to keep reading.
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@HardwareGeek said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
I don't remember how many sequels there are [Edit: Wikipedia says Herbert wrote 5 sequels], but clearly I didn't find them compelling enough to keep reading.
I made it 15 books in before quitting in disgust. Mostly because Brian Herbert started retconning stuff from the first book.
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@error said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
I made it 15 books in
No book, no matter how good it is, should have that many sequels.
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@HardwareGeek said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@error said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
I made it 15 books in
No book, no matter how good it is, should have that many sequels.
But how else do all series lead to Sanderson?
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@izzion said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
series
That's different, at least if it's planned to be a series of self-contained stories from the start. (I'm thinking of something like Hardy Boys, Nancy Drew, or Tom Swift.) A sequel is, at best, "I wrote a book with a good story (and also was really popular), and I have some ideas about where the story could go from there, so I'll try developing those ideas into another book," but more often, "I wrote a book that was really popular, so I want to cash in on that popularity by writing another one." Even if an author starts out doing the former, if it continues, sooner or later (usually sooner) it turns into the latter. By the time the sequels have become a series, that change in motivation has almost certainly occurred.
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@HardwareGeek said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
If I ever read that, I've long forgotten it, but I quite liked Dune when I read it decades ago.
And I liked The Belgariad when I was a teen. Turns out, young people like crap.
@Bim-Zively said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
Herbert, IMO great ideas but poor execution.
The only idea of his that I know to have been adopted to other fiction was sandworms. Were there any others?
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@HardwareGeek said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
No book, no matter how good it is, should have that many sequels.
You're right. That one definitely has far too many sequels.
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@izzion said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@HardwareGeek said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@error said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
I made it 15 books in
No book, no matter how good it is, should have that many sequels.
But how else do all series lead to Sanderson?
Let me tell you about the wheel of time...
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@HardwareGeek said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@error said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
I made it 15 books in
No book, no matter how good it is, should have that many sequels.
GNU Terry Pratchett
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@HardwareGeek said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@error said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
I made it 15 books in
No book, no matter how good it is, should have that many sequels.
I'm in the middle of a series like that now...
J.N.Chaney, Joshua Dalzelle, and Kevin McLaughlin seem to like long series... All 3 are currently in my top-authors list.
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@acrow said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
And I liked The Belgariad when I was a teen.
Me too.
Turns out, young people like crap.
Haven't re-read it since then, so I can't comment on that... (But having been young once a long time ago, I can agree)
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@acrow said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@HardwareGeek said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
If I ever read that, I've long forgotten it, but I quite liked Dune when I read it decades ago.
And I liked The Belgariad when I was a teen. Turns out, young people like crap.
@Bim-Zively said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
Herbert, IMO great ideas but poor execution.
The only idea of his that I know to have been adopted to other fiction was sandworms. Were there any others?
Don't know, but someone ought to adapt the Gowachin legal system.
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@DogsB said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@izzion said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@HardwareGeek said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@error said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
I made it 15 books in
No book, no matter how good it is, should have that many sequels.
But how else do all series lead to Sanderson?
Let me tell you about the wheel of time...
Though that was a tangled mess to begin with. I think he did a good job with what he was given.
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@Bim-Zively said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@acrow said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@HardwareGeek said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
If I ever read that, I've long forgotten it, but I quite liked Dune when I read it decades ago.
And I liked The Belgariad when I was a teen. Turns out, young people like crap.
@Bim-Zively said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
Herbert, IMO great ideas but poor execution.
The only idea of his that I know to have been adopted to other fiction was sandworms. Were there any others?
Don't know, but someone ought to adapt the Gowachin legal system.
I can already do Mirabhasa speech.
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@Bim-Zively said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@Mason_Wheeler said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@MrL said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@Rhywden said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@GOG said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@Medinoc Instructions unclear. Ten years before movie was in the works I was arguing with friends about whether making a cinematic trilogy would be feasible.
The recent Dune happened despite of that. Granted, it's only two parts but still.
Yeah, but it's also awful, unlike LotR.
Toby Faire, so was the book. It's gotta be the most tedious work of sci-fi I've ever read.
Read others of Herbert's work, and you might reevaluate your feelings about "Dune". The one that broke my camel's back was "The Jesus Incident", I could never make it through that one.
You know that "The Jesus Incident" has two sequels?
"The Lazarus Effect" and "The Ascension Factor".
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@nerd4sale said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@Bim-Zively said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@Mason_Wheeler said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@MrL said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@Rhywden said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@GOG said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@Medinoc Instructions unclear. Ten years before movie was in the works I was arguing with friends about whether making a cinematic trilogy would be feasible.
The recent Dune happened despite of that. Granted, it's only two parts but still.
Yeah, but it's also awful, unlike LotR.
Toby Faire, so was the book. It's gotta be the most tedious work of sci-fi I've ever read.
Read others of Herbert's work, and you might reevaluate your feelings about "Dune". The one that broke my camel's back was "The Jesus Incident", I could never make it through that one.
You know that "The Jesus Incident" has two sequels?
"The Lazarus Effect" and "The Ascension Factor".
Silly writers, making stuff up.
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@dcon said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@HardwareGeek said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
@error said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
I made it 15 books in
No book, no matter how good it is, should have that many sequels.
I'm in the middle of a series like that now...
J.N.Chaney, Joshua Dalzelle, and Kevin McLaughlin seem to like long series... All 3 are currently in my top-authors list.
Wow, and you have functioning chemosensors? Or not? Wondering if other dysfunction is coupled here.
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@LaoC said in A fool and his actual money are soon parted:
Apparently, the core problem was that they did a very risky thing with bonds without hedging in order to earn an extra 0.4% of return on them. But the bonds they bought dropped in value rapidly (because interest rates have risen) so they ended up with a large loss on the balance sheet. This was apparently visible in the accounts back in at least December; smarter investors have been doing the GTFO manoeuvre since then, and this week was when it came to a head with the bulk of investors and depositors getting wise (too late) and precipitating the collapse.
In short, financial management at the bank really fucked up. It would be a humdrum bank failure except for the clientele.