@PJH said:@amischiefr said:Who really wants to teach ungrateful tenage fucktards for 35k a year? Is programming (at this level anyway) taught to 12-16 yr olds? I find it surprising if it is. In edu.uk I got the impression they had insufficient time to teach English and Maths, let alone the more esoteric subjects like programming. In the US, some high schools have programming classes.  Not in the heavily-unionized schools which are incapable of teaching the fundamentals, mind you, but in the better charter and magnet schools, yes.