WTF jobs advert



  • Hi,
    new boy here not a softy by nature but hardware/FPGA designer who has to write his own driver software 'cos he is the 'lead engineer' which means nobody else is going to do it basically.

    Anyway i got this job advert through the interwebs and it made me laugh/cry/hurl


    'some recruiter' is currently working with a very exciting organisation that requires Principal / Senior ASIC / FPGA Design Engineers as a key phase of the company's and product development. Due to the nature of the work and the environment, we require individuals with demonstrable skills in innovation and creative design, stemming from a first class academic background.

    Profile background/experience required:

    • Due to the complex technology and dynamic nature of the organisation, the profile of the ASIC / FPGA Design Engineer required to join the team is focussed as much around an individual's ability to demonstrate creativity and innovation in design as they will be required to lead designs, contribute to design processes and contribute to overall architecture development, as well as silicon implementation. Verification skills are NOT as important at this stage

    • We are looking for designers capable of developing complex embedded systems, with strong ASIC/RTL design background, ideally specialising in verilog and who have worked on interesting areas of design

    • The star quality in a designer may not have been demonstrated in significant commercial experience, therefore 1st class academic qualifications from highly respected Universities could be a sign on the necessary spark. Accordingly, we will look at appropriate recent graduates through to highly experienced 'stars' of the industry

    • Adaptability and commitment to the culture/environment is critical, as is a calm demeanour.

    • UK based candidates preferred and relocation looked into on a case by case basis


    So basically they are saying we are a bunch of Cambridge twats who think its more important which university you went to than say 20 years experience working in the real world, they really want someone fresh out of Cambridge uni or someone so arrogant he calls himself a star designer.

    So its not just softies who have to deal with galloping fuckwits on a daily basis.



  • @Dayglo_Gerbil said:

    Hi,

    new boy here not a softy by nature but hardware/FPGA designer who has to write his own driver software 'cos he is the 'lead engineer' which means nobody else is going to do it basically.
    Anyway i got this job advert through the interwebs and it made me laugh/cry/hurl


    'some recruiter' is currently working with a very exciting organisation that requires Principal / Senior ASIC / FPGA Design Engineers as a key phase of the company's and product development. Due to the nature of the work and the environment, we require individuals with demonstrable skills in innovation and creative design, stemming from a first class academic background.

    Profile background/experience required:

    • Due to the complex technology and dynamic nature of the organisation, the profile of the ASIC / FPGA Design Engineer required to join the team is focussed as much around an individual's ability to demonstrate creativity and innovation in design as they will be required to lead designs, contribute to design processes and contribute to overall architecture development, as well as silicon implementation. Verification skills are NOT as important at this stage
    • We are looking for designers capable of developing complex embedded systems, with strong ASIC/RTL design background, ideally specialising in verilog and who have worked on interesting areas of design
    • The star quality in a designer may not have been demonstrated in significant commercial experience, therefore 1st class academic qualifications from highly respected Universities could be a sign on the necessary spark. Accordingly, we will look at appropriate recent graduates through to highly experienced 'stars' of the industry
    • Adaptability and commitment to the culture/environment is critical, as is a calm demeanour.
    • UK based candidates preferred and relocation looked into on a case by case basis


    So basically they are saying we are a bunch of Cambridge twats who think its more important which university you went to than say 20 years experience working in the real world, they really want someone fresh out of Cambridge uni or someone so arrogant he calls himself a star designer.
    So its not just softies who have to deal with galloping fuckwits on a daily basis.

    FTFY, CS is a bitch on formatting


  • @dtech said:

    Adaptability and commitment to the culture/environment is critical, as is a calm demeanour.
    Will someone please turn off that loud alarm? Thank you.



  • @Dayglo_Gerbil said:

     [ ... ] 

    * We are looking for designers capable of developing complex embedded
    systems, with strong ASIC/RTL design background, ideally specialising
    in verilog and who have worked on interesting areas of design

     * The star quality in a designer may not have been demonstrated in significant commercial experience, therefore 1st class academic qualifications from highly respected Universities could be a sign on the necessary spark. Accordingly, we will look at appropriate recent graduates through to highly experienced 'stars' of the industry

     [ ... ] 

    So basically they are saying we are a bunch of Cambridge twats who think its more important which university you went to than say 20 years experience working in the real world, they really want someone fresh out of Cambridge uni or someone so arrogant he calls himself a star designer.

    So its not just softies who have to deal with galloping fuckwits on a daily basis.

    That's a fairly massive chip on your shoulder you have there.  Those sentences quite clearly state that they want someone with experience but would be willing to consider an inexperienced graduate ALSO as long as they're convinced that they took a good course.  They totally don't say it's "more important"; you imagined that bit because you're angry.

    Also, how do you know they aren't Oxford twats?




  • @DaveK said:

    @Dayglo_Gerbil said:

     [ ... ]

    So basically they are saying we are a bunch of Cambridge twats who think its more important which university you went to than say 20 years experience working in the real world, they really want someone fresh out of Cambridge uni or someone so arrogant he calls himself a star designer.

    So its not just softies who have to deal with galloping fuckwits on a daily basis.

    That's a fairly massive chip on your shoulder you have there.  Those sentences quite clearly state that they want someone with experience but would be willing to consider an inexperienced graduate ALSO as long as they're convinced that they took a good course.  They totally don't say it's "more important"; you imagined that bit because you're angry.

    Also, how do you know they aren't Oxford twats?

    Don't mind Dayglo_Gerbil.  He's just frustrated, because people keep dissing him because he went to Cambrige University.  If anyone actually hires him, as soon as he makes a simple mistake, they check the rosters at Cambridge University, find he didn't actually go there (because he went to Cambrige instead), and then fire him for lying on his application.

    Personally, I think he shouldn't take it so hard.  I don't know anyone else who's managed to make such an amazing career out of false dismissal law suits...

    P.S. Dayglo, as I keep telling you, we've been out of college for over 20 years now. Just stop putting our alma mater down on your resume; it really shouldn't be necessary any more. I've not listed my education for over a decade now, and I keep finding work.



  • @Who_the_Fuck said:

    P.S. Dayglo, as I keep telling you, we've been out of college for over 20 years now. Just stop putting our alma mater down on your resume; it really shouldn't be necessary any more. I've not listed my education for over a decade now, and I keep finding work.

    My education consists of "went to college, but ended up spending all his time playing MUDs and Tribes and then dropped out" and it doesn't seem to hurt me any.



  • @DaveK said:

    Also, how do you know they aren't Oxford twats?

    As a good rule of thumb, Oxford produces politicians and Cambridge produces useful people.



  • @pjt33 said:

    As a good rule of thumb, Oxford produces politicians and Cambridge produces [b]spies[/b].
    FTFY.



  • How do i know they are not Oxford twats? because the full text talks about the exciting Cambridge company The real WTF in that advert is Cambridge companies insisting on designers using verilog for FPGA design. There are two FPGA languages VHDL and verilog and for historical reasons verilog is used in asia and the US, VHDL is used in europe. You can start a major flame war by asking which is better on the right forums.
    All I will say is people ask for linters for verilog and there are a lot around, there aren't for VHDL because being a very strongly typed language and VHDL compiler is effectivly a VHDL linter as well.



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  • @Dayglo_Gerbil said:

    There are two FPGA languages VHDL and verilog and for historical reasons verilog is used in asia and the US, VHDL is used in europe. You can start a major flame war by asking which is better on the right forums.

    Which one's better?



  • @Scarlet Manuka said:

    @pjt33 said:
    As a good rule of thumb, Oxford produces politicians and Cambridge produces spies.
    FTFY.

    Are you implying spies are not useful?



  • @serguey123 said:

    @Scarlet Manuka said:

    @pjt33 said:
    As a good rule of thumb, Oxford produces politicians and Cambridge produces spies.
    FTFY.

    Are you implying spies are not useful?

    I think the implication is that the only useful people out of Cambridge are spies.

     



  • @Zecc said:

    @serguey123 said:

    @Scarlet Manuka said:

    @pjt33 said:
    As a good rule of thumb, Oxford produces politicians and Cambridge produces spies.
    FTFY.

    Are you implying spies are not useful?

    I think the implication is that the only useful people out of Cambridge are spies.

    Oh, that's ok then



  • @Scarlet Manuka said:

    @pjt33 said:
    As a good rule of thumb, Oxford produces politicians and Cambridge produces spies.
     

     

    True. And West Point produces Soldiers, and MIT produces Engineers. 

     I just want to know who keeps making all the Pyros!



  • @Dayglo_Gerbil said:

    There are two FPGA languages VHDL and verilog and for historical reasons verilog is used in asia and the US, VHDL is used in europe. You can start a major flame war by asking which is better on the right forums.
    Really?  In the US, I learned VHDL in college, not verilog.  (Not a hardware engineer)



  •  @Khazwossname said:

    @Scarlet Manuka said:

    @pjt33 said:
    As a good rule of thumb, Oxford produces politicians and Cambridge produces spies.
     

     

    True. And West Point produces Soldiers, and MIT produces Engineers. 

     I just want to know who keeps making all the Pyros!

     

    Not to mention those damn snipers... I think they might come from NOT going to college...

     



  • I have no problem with large companies which go to Cambridge to use the talent that is undoubtedly there, the problem comes from companies started by some of the delusional cambridge grads who start a company doing some shitty non-sense thing because they can, I have experience of this I worked for a company doing hardware cryptographic acceleration on what was basically a PCI card with ARM processors bolted onto it, so all the cryptographic algorithms which are designed to be implemented in hardware were actualy being done in software, so it was slow, hugely expensive and unreliable.
    After I left there sold a pipelined cryptographic FPGA core design to one of their competitors which when it was tweaked gave some stupidly high bandwidth 13 Gbits /second in a cheap xilinx FPGA, looking at this advert its clear that it is a start up with no idea what they are asking for, any fule no that in FPGA design verification is an integral part of the design process, you cannot decouple it and say 'oh we are not interested in verification at this stage'



  • @blakeyrat said:

    @Dayglo_Gerbil said:
    There are two FPGA languages VHDL and verilog and for historical reasons verilog is used in asia and the US, VHDL is used in europe. You can start a major flame war by asking which is better on the right forums.

    Which one's better?

    answer <= 'X';

     



  •  This reminds me of the idiot hiring managers who ask my college GPA when I am 30 and have 8 years of experience at companies just like theirs showing consistant top reviews/promotions.



  • @CnC said:

     This reminds me of the idiot hiring managers who ask my college GPA when I am 30 and have 8 years of experience at companies just like theirs showing consistant top reviews/promotions.

    Agreed it is annoying... But imagine that with 30+ years of experience, being eliminated (and this was for a contract position) because of not having a 4 year degree (which would be 30+ years old)...and finding out that the person retained had 2 years experience, and a 4 year degree...in photography!

    [and it was not a "rate thing"...they are paying that person one heck of alot of money!]



  • Anyway I spoke to the agency which placed the advert and they are going to rewrite it to make it a bit less offensive to people who know what they are talking about.So I dunno maybe some other twat wants to have a go at me for writing about it.


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