SayNoToSQL movement



  • How can I learn these technologies?



  • He's gone from trolling to riddles. What is the sound of one hand clapping?



  • Ooh!  Let me try.

    If a tree falls in the woods, and crushes a programmer who's afraid of databases, does anyone care?



  • @blakeyrat said:

    What is the sound of one hand clapping?
    Twice the distance from the middle to one end.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    He's gone from trolling to riddles. What is the sound of one hand clapping?

    @boog said:

    Ooh!  Let me try.

    If a tree falls in the woods, and crushes a programmer who's afraid of databases, does anyone care?

    I fail to see the joke.



  • @Nagesh said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    He's gone from trolling to riddles. What is the sound of one hand clapping?

    @boog said:

    Ooh!  Let me try.

    If a tree falls in the woods, and crushes a programmer who's afraid of databases, does anyone care?

    I fail to see the joke.

    They fail to see the question

    Er, if you want to learn about stuff you should try using a forum dedicated to teaching people instead (small hint: not this one).

    In the same way that different paradigms in programming coexist, different paradigms in db coexist.

    I wished Oracle died already (or improved, whatever comes first), their motto being "Hey, at least we are not MySQL"



  • @serguey123 said:

    @Nagesh said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    He's gone from trolling to riddles. What is the sound of one hand clapping?

    @boog said:

    Ooh!  Let me try.

    If a tree falls in the woods, and crushes a programmer who's afraid of databases, does anyone care?

    I fail to see the joke.

    They fail to see the question

    Er, if you want to learn about stuff you should try using a forum dedicated to teaching people instead (small hint: not this one).

    In the same way that different paradigms in programming coexist, different paradigms in db coexist.

    I wished Oracle died already (or improved, whatever comes first), their motto being "Hey, at least we are not MySQL"

    Thanks. Is this catching on in America?

    MySQL is also owned by Oracle Corp, right?



  • @PJH said:

    @blakeyrat said:
    What is the sound of one hand clapping?
    Twice the distance from the middle to one end.

    It's like a circle in a spiral. Like a wheel within a wheel!



  • @Nagesh said:

    Thanks. Is this catching on in America?

    NoSQL? It has very very limited use-cases. Unless you're Twitter you probably won't have any need for it.

    If you're serious about learning it, go to aws.amazon.com and sign up for a free SimpleDB account. They have a lot of code samples and documentation there, and SimpleDB is probably the most popular/easy-to-learn NoSQL product.

    We use it for storing meta-data (for example, what database server hosts each project), but we don't use it for actual data because it's just too fucking slow. Also, you can't plug the data into an OLAP cube or anything like that without dumping it into a relational database first anyway, so for us there's no point.

    Edit: BTW, keep in mind that Twitter serially numbers each tweet, so at some point even *that* data's passing through a single server, if only to pass out numbers.

    @Nagesh said:

    MySQL is also owned by Oracle Corp, right?

    Yeah, they're trying to centralize shit databases. Some day in the future you'll be able to get all your retarded, broken databases from a single vendor! And as an added bonus, they'll come over to your place of work and personally kick you in the balls whenever you try to figure out whether a string is empty or null.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    @Nagesh said:
    Thanks. Is this catching on in America?

    NoSQL? It has very very limited use-cases. Unless you're Twitter you probably won't have any need for it.

    If you're serious about learning it, go to aws.amazon.com and sign up for a free SimpleDB account. They have a lot of code samples and documentation there, and SimpleDB is probably the most popular/easy-to-learn NoSQL product.

    We use it for storing meta-data (for example, what database server hosts each project), but we don't use it for actual data because it's just too fucking slow. Also, you can't plug the data into an OLAP cube or anything like that without dumping it into a relational database first anyway, so for us there's no point.

    Edit: BTW, keep in mind that Twitter serially numbers each tweet, so at some point even *that* data's passing through a single server, if only to pass out numbers.

    @Nagesh said:

    MySQL is also owned by Oracle Corp, right?

    Yeah, they're trying to centralize shit databases. Some day in the future you'll be able to get all your retarded, broken databases from a single vendor! And as an added bonus, they'll come over to your place of work and personally kick you in the balls whenever you try to figure out whether a string is empty or null.

    Thanks blakeyrat! I will go to aws.amazon.com

    That last comment about kicking in the balls is really funny. In our workplace a few words are banned and "balls" is one of them.

    Unless you're talking about cricket.



  • @Nagesh said:

    That last comment about kicking in the balls is really funny. In our workplace a few words are banned and "balls" is one of them.

    Unless you're talking about cricket.

     

    What about the formal dances?  (Yes, yes, IT folks and stereotypes, blah blah.)



  • @too_many_usernames said:

    @Nagesh said:

    That last comment about kicking in the balls is really funny. In our workplace a few words are banned and "balls" is one of them.

    Unless you're talking about cricket.

     

    What about the formal dances?  (Yes, yes, IT folks and stereotypes, blah blah.)

    Why would you want to dance at a workplace?



  • @Nagesh said:

    Why would you want to dance at a workplace?

    *gasp  You have never participate in the traditional "Integration Finished" dance or the celebratory "Project Build Succesful" choreography?

    You haven't lived until you participate in some of those, that is the true mark of a man, being smeared by the warm blood of a decapitated chicken as you run in circles chanting in unison.

    On a sepparate note did you kick the electronic butt of Nagesh 2.0 or what?  Asking for internet cred purposes only



  • @Nagesh said:

    How can I learn these technologies?

    With relational databases you have to learn SQL.  NoSQL has taken the SQL away, so there's nothing to learn.  You can go ahead and put 15 years of NoSQL on your resume.



  • @frits said:

    With relational databases you have to learn SQL.  NoSQL has taken the SQL away, so there's nothing to learn.
    So grasshopper, you need to master un-learning before you can master learning NoSQL



  • @frits said:

    @Nagesh said:

    How can I learn these technologies?

    With relational databases you have to learn SQL.  NoSQL has taken the SQL away, so there's nothing to learn.  You can go ahead and put 15 years of NoSQL on your resume.

    Are you trying to be mr smartee pants?



  • @Nagesh said:

    @frits said:

    @Nagesh said:

    How can I learn these technologies?

    With relational databases you have to learn SQL.  NoSQL has taken the SQL away, so there's nothing to learn.  You can go ahead and put 15 years of NoSQL on your resume.

    Are you trying to be mr smartee pants?

    That is the whole point of this site



  • @Nagesh said:

    @too_many_usernames said:

    @Nagesh said:

    That last comment about kicking in the balls is really funny. In our workplace a few words are banned and "balls" is one of them.

    Unless you're talking about cricket.

     

    What about the formal dances?  (Yes, yes, IT folks and stereotypes, blah blah.)

    Why would you want to dance at a workplace?

    Why do mice have small balls?

     

     

    Because very few mice know how to dance.

     


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