Windows XP SP3



  • Ok,

    For the momemt  this is just a place holder because I'm just install SP3 which I know is going to be my "WTF Was I Thinking" top scorer of the week......

     

     



  • Did you think there wouldn't be any spots left in the forum once you discovered a WTF?



  •  Hmmm;

    Update.Microsoft.Com: 

     

    Typical download size: 65.6 MB , 27 minutes

     Direct Link from Technet:

    windowsxp-kb936929-sp3-x86-enu.exe

    344MB 

     



  • I know I am asking myself WTF were you thinking.... but it is has nothing to do with SP3...



  •  Technet does have to bloat it with bunch ofspyware... sure its 300 megs of it but who's counting?



  • @BOFH said:

     Hmmm;

    Update.Microsoft.Com: 

     

    Typical download size: 65.6 MB , 27 minutes

     Direct Link from Technet:

    windowsxp-kb936929-sp3-x86-enu.exe

    344MB 

     

    Is this going to be a running log of what an idiot goes through to install a SP?



  • @dlikhten said:

     Technet does have to bloat it with bunch ofspyware... sure its 300 megs of it but who's counting?

     

    The normal DL is a web installer. The technet link is a full installer.



  • No I just need somewhere to put my coffee while I wait for SP3 to install..... 

     

    @shadowman said:

    Did you think there wouldn't be any spots left in the forum once you discovered a WTF?
     



  • @BOFH said:

    No I just need somewhere to put my coffee while I wait for SP3 to install..... 

     

    So you are really this troubled by having to update your computer every now and then?



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    @dlikhten said:

     Technet does have to bloat it with bunch ofspyware... sure its 300 megs of it but who's counting?

     

    The normal DL is a web installer. The technet link is a full installer.

     

    Thats a WTF in itself... A web installer thats 66 megs???? I know DirectX web installer is like 1 meg... How do you get 66 megs for a web installer damnit?

     

    In any case I feel that this thread deserves a mug!



  • Dude, it's beta software. They're already on RC2 (or whatever it's called) so you might as well wait for the RTM of it. It'll pop up on usenet the day after anyway,



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  • @Alex Media said:

    Dude, it's beta software. They're already on RC2 (or whatever it's called) so you might as well wait for the RTM of it. It'll pop up on usenet the day after anyway,

    No way, it is far easier for him to post to sidebar like a moron bitching about it. Sounds to me like he is bored. That really isn't the fault of MS, Windows or SP3. 

    Boredom usually inflicts boring people. It is kind of like a sad self commentary.



  • @dlikhten said:

    Thats a WTF in itself... A web installer thats 66 megs???? I know DirectX web installer is like 1 meg... How do you get 66 megs for a web installer damnit?
    I'd guess that that 66 meg includes 65 megs of patches that they were pretty sure just about everyone would need.  The remaining 280 meg are only necessary on a case-by-case basis.



  • I just installed Vista 64 on a new machine I never really though about making a blog style post here about my adventure ...

    Well as best I can recall it went like this ... 

    * Put in CD

    * Waited

    * Typed some numbers and letters, clicked a few things

    * Went and played music for a while

    * Came back saw it was done, plugged in to internet

    * Let it download and update the 51 updates

    Thereafter I cursed a [url=http://www.m-audio.com/]certain music hardware manufacturer[/url] due to lack of drivers but that's not a windows wtf per se ... especially in February 2008.



  • That sounds a lot like my Vista 64 adventure, except that my audio card rhymes with "hound master" and emitted horrible noise based on where and when the drivers were loaded into memory. At least they've released drivers that fix the issue after 2 years...



  • @merreborn said:

    The remaining 280 meg are only necessary on a case-by-case basis.

    I find myself wondering what cases those might be, since all Windows desktop installations are more or less identical (and the few 'optional' components are (a) tiny, and (b) copied to the hard drive anyway in XP).



  • @merreborn said:

    @dlikhten said:

    Thats a WTF in itself... A web installer thats 66 megs???? I know DirectX web installer is like 1 meg... How do you get 66 megs for a web installer damnit?
    I'd guess that that 66 meg includes 65 megs of patches that they were pretty sure just about everyone would need.  The remaining 280 meg are only necessary on a case-by-case basis.

     

    Or rather, the Installer is like 1 or 2 megs and will download 66 megs on an average computer. The full installer, on the other hand, contains all data (including several language files, instead of just the one it actually needs) it might need, including some stuff which is on most computers but might be missing.



  • @Martin Dreier said:

    (including several language files, instead of just the one it actually needs)

    No. Alternate language installations have entirely different 320Mb files to download. I actually admin systems in several different languages, and am perpetually annoyed by the need to waste disk space on having two copies of all the major patches.

    The last three characters in the filename is the language code (windowsxp-kb936929-sp3-x86-XXX.exe; enu is English-US).

    Still can't figure out what stuff "might" be missing. I have never seen an installation of XP that allowed you to skip an entire 280Mb of data; I can account for roughly 50Mb of optional components, and that's if I count Media Player.




  • It's a cumulative SP, so it includes every update released since RTM.  Simple. 



  • @asuffield said:

    @merreborn said:

    The remaining 280 meg are only necessary on a case-by-case basis.

    I find myself wondering what cases those might be, since all Windows desktop installations are more or less identical (and the few 'optional' components are (a) tiny, and (b) copied to the hard drive anyway in XP).

     

    I'd assume it's for those who might not have had auto updates on, as opposed to new stuff that might first hit with the SP.



  • @boomzilla said:

    I'd assume it's for those who might not have had auto updates on

    Past XP SPs have included surprisingly few of the "critical" updates available via WU; after applying SP2, there's still a lot of old updates to apply (plus a bunch of new ones for things that broke in SP2). I had thought that SPs only included updates to those files that they were touching anyway (although it may simply be a completely arbitrary selection).


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