Recruiting foreign specialists
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Germany's companies and politicians are complaining about a severe "Fachkräftemangel" (lack of qualified staff). Now governemnt decided a new law for recruiting specialists from abroad.
Mind you, Germany is memeber of the European Union and of the Schengen area - which means that people from those countries are free to work in Germany anyway already.
Existing laws for foreign workers were not enough for our great companies. Why? Minimum wage for a foreigner to be counted as a skilled worker. Government lowered it on their request. As a foreign sofwtare specialist, you are now invited to work in Germany at a yearly gross income of 42,000 Euros ("minimum" of course). That's a little less than 30,000 net.
Well, qualified Indians may get that gross income in India. At Indian price levels. German IT jobs are in Munich, Frankfurt, Cologne, and other expensive places...
And since those foreign specialists are about to leave their home countries, why should they go for Germany when the USA or Switzerland pay much more?
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And of course, it is also a great signal for young people here thinking about what subject to study. Why should they go into STEM, when governemnt tells them that 42,000 per year is a great salary? What about doing an MBA instead and get much more money? Yeah, fucktards.
Politicians are great.
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@BernieTheBernie said in Recruiting foreign specialists:
complaining about a severe "Fachkräftemangel"
I'd complain about that, too. In fact, I'd complain about just having to say it, much less having one.
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@HardwareGeek Hey c'mon, what about you? With your exquisite love of german language, wouldn't you want to apply for a 42,000 € pa IT job in germany? The greatest opportunity for you to get in closest contact with beautifully long german words.
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@BernieTheBernie said in Recruiting foreign specialists:
@HardwareGeek Hey c'mon, what about you? With your exquisite love of german language, wouldn't you want to apply for a 42,000 € pa IT job in germany? The greatest opportunity for you to get in closest contact with beautifully long german words.
No. It would take three days to write a sentence.
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@BernieTheBernie said in Recruiting foreign specialists:
And since those foreign specialists are about to leave their home countries, why should they go for Germany when the USA or Switzerland pay much more?
I believe that it's not easy for a foreigner to get a technology specialist job in America. Immigration laws for laborers are flagrantly not enforced by the government, but IT jobs are still subject to immigration laws.
Yes, there are a lot of foreign specialists in the U.S. But I would bet there's a lot more who are unable to make it. It would seem like some of these U.S. rejects would be both competent and willing to work in Germany at the same time.
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@DogsB said in Recruiting foreign specialists:
@BernieTheBernie said in Recruiting foreign specialists:
@HardwareGeek Hey c'mon, what about you? With your exquisite love of german language, wouldn't you want to apply for a 42,000 € pa IT job in germany? The greatest opportunity for you to get in closest contact with beautifully long german words.
No. It would take three days to write a sentence.
And you'd only get paid 42,000 € pa while serving it
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@DogsB said in Recruiting foreign specialists:
No. It would take three days to write a sentence.
And think of coding... Our SonarQube rules put a length limit on naming things of (I think) 31 before the code-smell section starts yelling at you.
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@dcon said in Recruiting foreign specialists:
@DogsB said in Recruiting foreign specialists:
No. It would take three days to write a sentence.
And think of coding... Our SonarQube rules put a length limit on naming things of (I think) 31 before the code-smell section starts yelling at you.
If you do your coding in not-English, you're not "qualified" or competent, anyway.
Besides, the whole idea of "everybody here is an incompetent idiot, so let's bring in even more incompetent non-EU foreigners to make up for it" is... idiotic.
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@topspin said in Recruiting foreign specialists:
If you do your coding in not-English, you're not "qualified" or competent, anyway.
Way to slander the entire US IT industry.
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@kazitor said in Recruiting foreign specialists:
@topspin said in Recruiting foreign specialists:
If you do your coding in not-English, you're not "qualified" or competent, anyway.
Way to slander the entire US IT industry.
Truth is an absolute defense to slander
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@BernieTheBernie said in Recruiting foreign specialists:
As a foreign sofwtare specialist, you are now invited to work in Germany at a yearly gross income of 42,000 Euros
I should mention that before that, the limit was 58,000 Euros per year.
See, thanks to more than 10% inflation, the number of Euros per year has to be lowered, of course.
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An article in the FAZ today was about migration numbers.
In 2022, 2.666 million people immigrated to Germany ("asylum seekers" included), about 1 million from Ukraine. 1.2 million people left Germany.
About 83,000 people with German citizenship left Germany. 20,000 to Switzerland, 12,000 to Austria, 10,000 to the US. Average age of those people was 35 yo - yes, young professionals getting higher wages in Switzerland and the US (not so much in Austria); and some retired people surely increased that average age.
Höchster Wert seit 1950: Netto-Zuwanderung in Deutschland
Der hohe Wanderungsüberschuss liegt vor allem am Krieg gegen die Ukraine. Das Statistische Bundesamt registriert damit den höchsten Wert seit 1950.
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There is a sector where recruiting foreign specialists works quite well: health care. Now Albania has decided that they won't continue to "finance german health care". Many young physicians leave their home country just after their examination to richer countries of europe. And in Albania, their university study is mainly state financed - TFA mentions that about 1/16th is paid by the student, the rest by the state. The president decided that students leaving within 5 years after their exam will have to pay fees to the state.
Paywalled source in german:
Fachkräftemangel: Warum albanische Ärzte nach Deutschland wollen
Deutschland ist das Traumziel vieler Ärzte vom Westbalkan. Albanien schiebt dem Exodus nun einen Riegel vor. Denn er gefährdet das eigene Gesundheitssystem.
