WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Still, I do not retract my low opinion of Firefox devlopers
You can have low opinions of them just fine, as long as you realize that at least Chrom-ish stuff is
six feetmiles below them.
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@cvi Yeah, here's exactly what you wanted, after fuckering the disk for 5 minutes, even though there's supposed to be an index created by fuckering the disk when you're not around.
Good sir, do you have time to discuss Our Lord and Savior
LaunchyEverything?
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Good sir, do you have time to discuss Our Lord and Savior
locate?LaunchyEverythingFTFY.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@cvi Yeah, here's exactly what you wanted, after fuckering the disk for 5 minutes, even though there's supposed to be an index created by fuckering the disk when you're not around.
Good sir, do you have time to discuss Our Lord and Savior
LaunchyWindows PowerToys Run?As this is the Windows thread.
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
As this is the Windows thread.
Are you saying that this linux can run on a computer without windows underneath it, at all? As in, without a boot disk, without any drivers, and without any services ? That sounds preposterous to me.
If it were true (and I doubt it), then companies would be selling computers without a windows. This clearly is not happening, so there must be some error in your calculations. I hope you realise that windows is more than just Office ? Its a whole system that runs the computer from start to finish, and that is a very difficult thing to acheive. A lot of people dont realise this.
Microsoft just spent $9 billion and many years to create Vista, so it does not sound reasonable that some new alternative could just snap into existence overnight like that. It would take billions of dollars and a massive effort to achieve. IBM tried, and spent a huge amount of money developing OS/2 but could never keep up with Windows. Apple tried to create their own system for years, but finally gave up recently and moved to Intel and Microsoft.
Its just not possible that a freeware like the Linux could be extended to the point where it runs the entire computer fron start to finish, without using some of the more critical parts of windows. Not possible.
I think you need to re-examine your assumptions.
I dont see how this could happen at all. Vista is far more powerful than windows XP, and runs twice as fast. It is also much harder to pirate, and this point more than anything else has the Linux crowd in a panic.
It wont be long until Windows XP is no longer supported, and when that happens, what is Linux going to do ? Linux will have to find a way to work under Vista from here on, since it wont be able to rely on XP being readily available anymore.
Linux may seem like a good alternative to Office, but all that is happening in linux is that the windows interface is cleverly hidden away. It still needs the drivers and software services in order to run, and in most cases - that happens WITHOUT a valid windows licence. This is just plain piracy.
Vista will finally put an end to this blatant abuse of intellectual property, and linux should decline, taking the pirates with it. Anyone that supports the continuation of Windows XP in place of Vista surely has a hidden agenda... and you will surely be caught out.
Filed under: Windows Subsystem for Linux
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@cvi Yeah, here's exactly what you wanted, after fuckering the disk for 5 minutes, even though there's supposed to be an index created by fuckering the disk when you're not around.
Good sir, do you have time to discuss Our Lord and Savior
LaunchyWindows PowerToys Run?As this is the Windows thread.
Windows PowerToys Run for Business Online 365?
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@cvi good show, jolly good show. I haven’t seen that rant in many years.
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@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I've been using Firefox from versions much older than even and I never needed to "import" my data after an update.
Firefox wasn't even called that back when I started using it.
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@Zecc said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I've been using Firefox from versions much older than even and I never needed to "import" my data after an update.
Firefox wasn't even called that back when I started using it.
I remember it as Phoenix until the BIOS maker objected, and I did use Netscape 6 and co back in the day too.
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@cvi that was beautiful. Well done.
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@DogsB Thanks. It was an extended effort of several Google searches to find that specific rant. I almost 'd out of doing it, but putting in a supreme effort and with an unrelenting will, I persisted.
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@cvi The is not content. Merely amused, perhaps. Either way, of course, it shall do nothing.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@cvi Yeah, here's exactly what you wanted, after fuckering the disk for 5 minutes, even though there's supposed to be an index created by fuckering the disk when you're not around.
Good sir, do you have time to discuss Our Lord and Savior
LaunchyEverything?
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@hungrier said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@cvi Yeah, here's exactly what you wanted, after fuckering the disk for 5 minutes, even though there's supposed to be an index created by fuckering the disk when you're not around.
Good sir, do you have time to discuss Our Lord and Savior
LaunchyEverything?
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W2.0TFY
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@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I remember it as Phoenix
I remember it as Mozilla, the open source version of Netscape
Shit, that was 26 years ago
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I remember it as Phoenix
I remember it as Mozilla, the open source version of Netscape
Shit, that was 26 years ago
I’d always thought the open sourced part was always called Seamonkey as the original codebase that later became its official name?
I remember the name going from Phoenix to Firebird to Firefox. If it was called Mozilla before that, I never knew that, but I certainly remember the era.
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@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I've been using Firefox from versions much older than even and I never needed to "import" my data after an update.
I think I started with Firefox 0.7, and since it's the browser I use the most there has never been a need to "import" from another browser.
But I do occasionally export bookmarks and passwords so that I can import them into other browsers and keep everything more or less synced.
Also, the choice of
.csv
for passwords seems .... weird. Especially since Firefox warns you, when you export passwords, that the file can be read by anyone. So why not just export it into a plain text file then? Why even screw around with.csv
format? I guess that would be too simple.
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@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I’d always thought the open sourced part was always called Seamonkey as the original codebase that later became its official name?
According to Wikipedia
The project took its name, "Mozilla", from the original code name of the Netscape Navigator browser—a portmanteau of "Mosaic and Godzilla"
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@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I remember it as Phoenix
I remember it as Mozilla, the open source version of Netscape
I’d always thought the open sourced part was always called Seamonkey as the original codebase that later became its official name?
Hang on a second .... let me tighten my
In 1996 I signed up with a local internet provider and they mailed me a floppy disk containing a copy of Netscape 2.x which was already out of date and not good for much other than going online long enough to download a newer version.
Seamonkey is the open source version of the old Netscape that was a web browser and e-mail client all in one (and some other crap that nobody cared about).
Firefox started out as Phoenix, then briefly renamed to Firebird but there was a potential trademark problem because of a database program with that name, so they changed to Firefox.
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@Gern_Blaanston That suite was branded Mozilla for a while too. I don't recall when I switched from that to Firefox.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Seamonkey is the open source version of the old Netscape that was a web browser and e-mail client all in one (and some other crap that nobody cared about).
TIL: Seamonkey still exists and there is active development going on.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Still, I do not retract my low opinion of Firefox
devlopersmanagement
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@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Gern_Blaanston That suite was branded Mozilla for a while too.
Yes, I forgot about that. I used it for a while before Firefox.
I don't recall when I switched from that to Firefox.
All Firefox releases are available and I see that Firefox 0.8 is dated Sept. 2004 so that's probably when I first tried Firefox. Although I remember version 0.7 as being the first one I tried, but it isn't listed on there.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I remember version 0.7 as being the first one I tried
IOW, you're not afraid of using alpha version software.
Now we know why you installed Windows 11
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Still, I do not retract my low opinion of Firefox
devlopersmanagementYes, it's a shame they can't get some decent, competent management in there.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
So why not just export it into a plain text file then? Why even screw around with .csv format? I guess that would be too simple.
They'd still have to use some sort of character separator. So you might as well call it what it is.
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I’d say to use the actual bytes inside the ASCII spec for delineation but something something , something something and something something “it’s not visible when I open it in (tool not designed for that like Excel)”
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@Arantor You mean control codes 1C (file separator), 1D (group separator), 1E (record separator), and 1F (Unit separator)? Preposterous.
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@PleegWat I know, right? How ever would we cope using those?
What if a record needed to contain a unit separator inside a unit???
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@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Arantor You mean control codes 1C (file separator), 1D (group separator), 1E (record separator), and 1F (Unit separator)? Preposterous.
The thread is
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Arantor You mean control codes 1C (file separator), 1D (group separator), 1E (record separator), and 1F (Unit separator)? Preposterous.
The thread is
I have only ever read about it in books, I have not witnessed this prophetic magic with mine own eyes.
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@Arantor If I ever make my own text editor†, I'll make sure to support these characters in a reasonable way.
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@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Arantor You mean control codes 1C (file separator), 1D (group separator), 1E (record separator), and 1F (Unit separator)? Preposterous.
I'm pretty sure they're Red (1C) , Cursor Right (1D) , Blue (1E) , and Green (1F) .
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I remember version 0.7 as being the first one I tried
IOW, you're not afraid of using alpha version software.
20 years ago, that was pretty much all there was. And when you're young and stupid (instead of old and stupid) you just go ahead and try everything.
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@Zecc said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
So why not just export it into a plain text file then? Why even screw around with .csv format? I guess that would be too simple.
They'd still have to use some sort of character separator.
Nope.
Here is the configuration file for Media Player Classic. Plain text, easily readable and editable. The program has a GUI that will take care of all this for you, but if for some reason you want to read/edit it, you can. This is the correct way to do it:; MPC-HC
[Capture]
AudDispName=dummy
AudOutput=1
AudPreview=1
Country=1
FileFormat=0
FileName=E:\Documents\MPC-HC Capture\mpc-hc64_capture_[time].avi
SepAudio=1
VidDispName=dummy
VidOutput=1
VidPreview=1
[Dialogs\CmdLineHelp]
WindowPlacement=1635,756,2586,1484,1,0,-1,-1
[Dialogs\OrganizeFavorites]
WindowPlacement=136,1005,1105,2039,1,0,-1,-1
[Dialogs\SubtitleDl]
ColWidth=100,300,80,40,50,40,250,40,
SortColumn=0
SortOrder=0
WindowPlacement=73,127,1573,714,1,0,0,0
[Dialogs\SubtitleUp]
ColWidth=120,75,250,
WindowPlacement=73,127,1091,674,1,0,0,0
[DVBConfiguration]
BDABandWidth=8
BDAIgnoreEncryptedChannels=0
BDAOffset=166
BDAReceiver=
BDAScanFreqEnd=858000
BDAScanFreqStart=474000
BDASymbolRate=0
BDATuner=
BDAUseOffset=0
LastChannel=-1
RebuildFilterGraph=2
StopFilterGraph=2
[Favorites]
RelativeDrive=0
RememberABMarks=0
RememberPosition=0
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@Gern_Blaanston that example is no more plain text than a .csv. Maybe you ought to start by explaining why you consider .csv to not be "plain text".
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I remember version 0.7 as being the first one I tried
IOW, you're not afraid of using alpha version software.
20 years ago, that was pretty much all there was. And when you're young and stupid (instead of old and stupid) you just go ahead and try everything.
I had previously used the Maxthon browser, which already had tabs.
There seems to be a Maxthon browser currently, but it's based on Chromium now? So definitely not the same as it was back then. It was based on embedded IE, if I recall correctly.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Here is the configuration file for Media Player Classic. Plain text, easily readable and editable.
Okay, point taken. That format pairs the data values to the corresponding property names.
I don't know if the CSV files you were talking about had header names. If they don't, then that makes it worse.
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@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I’d say to use the actual bytes inside the ASCII spec for delineation but something something , something something and something something “it’s not visible when I open it in (tool not designed for that like Excel)”
Fun fact: I intentionally used those bytes when making the permissions object format. Too bad nobody will ever know what the magic numbers really meant...
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which also means giving their AI access to my computer! This is messed up.
Bet the tune would be different if it was the XAI (or whatever he'd call his).
Some elements of the operating system simply do not work
Uh, so it's like Windows 11 with a Microsoft account, then?
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@cvi said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Uh, so it's like Windows 11 with a Microsoft account, then?
It's like any Windows version with any type of account
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@cvi said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Uh, so it's like Windows 11 with a Microsoft account, then?
It's like any Windows version with any type of account
Windows 3.11 for Workgroups!
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You have one job!
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[Task Manager]
- Fixed an issue impacting Task Manager reliability.
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@Arantor linked an article in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else that quoted saying:
"Just bought a new PC laptop and it won't let me use it unless I create a Microsoft account, which also means giving their AI access to my computer! This is messed up"
It's no more messed up than an Android phone requiring a Google account or an iPhone requiring an Apple account. We just weren't used to that on desktop until recently.
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@Bulb It's also messed up that Android/iPhones require Google/Apple accounts. Complaining about it all the time just got tiresome.
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@cvi Well, yes, it is.
… I am somewhat surprised EC didn't yet require that any identity provider required for anything must be EU-based, because it's personal information after all.
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@Bulb Haven't followed that too closely. Isn't there a pile of exceptions for exchange with the US, though? Used to be that way.
I mean, I'd love to see a requirement to be EU-based. Question is, would something like Goolge-EU-subsidiary count?