Can you even escape from Hades?
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Just had a run that had me barely hanging on throughout, but somehow I made it to the boss (and, keeping with the theme of the run, lasted for a little while with 1 HP). But aside from failing to escape, I did get some meta stuff done:
- finished three prophecies: all Poseidon boons, all Hermes boons, all keepsakes equipped
- encountered and defeated a new miniboss in Styx, which I thought would be the last "???" entry in the armored enemy prophecy, but that wasn't it
- thanks to an early chaos boon and Darker Thirst, got a shitload of gems and upgraded infernal troves to the highest level
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You did what, Hermes?
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I beat Theseus on hard mode.
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@hungrier ... and after completing my first escape while half falling asleep, my next attempt was a complete pants shitting fest. I used up all my death defiance before reaching the bone hydra, somehow made it through and looked like I was turning it around in Elysium (got an Epic Strong Drink and bought another death defiance from a well) then I got pwned by a trap. Womp wah.
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@hungrier said in Can you even escape from Hades?:
Interestingly, all the perks you used are perks I never use. Some I've never seen!
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@error Some of them were fated choice ones.
Also, after I took the screenshot I noticed you could change which ones were highlighted. Does that do anything?
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Other things accomplished this run:
- completed Zeus and Demeter boon prophecies
- unlocked a couple Orpheus related prophecies: Musician and Muse and The Gift of Song
- caught a fish on the surface, and spoiler commented on it
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- realized that I had misremembered the exchange rate of the various tradable items, and that a gem room with darker thirst is not a better value than a key
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Status: Tried a run with a heat level; got to the end but couldn't quite seal the deal. This was the run when I got the "Lernie" encounter mentioned
. Is there a way to track how many times you've defeated each boss, or how many of each type of enemy you've killed?
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I defeated Charon!
He's not as tough as the bossman but you have to face him with significantly fewer perks.
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@hungrier Is that not stuff that's listed in the admin center?
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@e4tmyl33t As far as I can tell there's no enemy info (other than "killed by") in there. Maybe it unlocks later?
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Status:
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Edit: FFS. Beat heat level 8 with bow.
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Heat level 9, 2 streak.
Bow is OP.
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@error said in Can you even escape from Hades?:
Bow is OP.
At first I was really bad with it, but eventually I learned how to use it properly and I agree
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Killed by Cerberus.
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I died in the third phase of the Extreme Measures final boss fight.
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Meanwhile, I've been on a hot streak of losing to Theseus for my past few runs. :feelsbadman:
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Last night, I got a record setting one win streak
This morning, I got to the boss crazy fast (compared to my previous runs), but by that time I had used up my death defiances and couldn't do the needful
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@hungrier said in Can you even escape from Hades?:
I had used up my death defiances
I've been using Stubborn Defiance (1 revive per chamber/lower hp) but I don't die so much before the last fight now so I should switch back.
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@hungrier said in Can you even escape from Hades?:
Last night, I got a record setting one win streak
This morning, I got to the boss crazy fast (compared to my previous runs), but by that time I had used up my death defiances and couldn't do the needful
I beat it the first time yesterday too, with the fists, and a crapton of damage reduction and lots of health. I just stood next to Hades and pummeled him constantly, and he managed to nuke down 1/4 of my health bar before he went down. Didn't even have to use death defiance once.
Interesting run altogether.
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@error said in Can you even escape from Hades?:
@hungrier said in Can you even escape from Hades?:
I had used up my death defiances
I've been using Stubborn Defiance (1 revive per chamber/lower hp) but I don't die so much before the last fight now so I should switch back.
So far my only victories have been with the regular Death Defiance, but I've also been screwing around a lot by e.g. taking sub-optimal boons to fill out the fated list, or switching around my mirror perks to less effective ones, or sometimes just doing random stuff that's not actually helpful but sounds like fun.
In any case, I still have a lot of trouble with the Heroes fight. In my latest run mentioned above, I had Theseus down to a couple pixels of health but he managed to kill me just before dying.
e: also, that run was the first one in like 5 where I didn't see Patroclus, and the first one where I would've actually taken the "regain all revives" option
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I beat Extreme Measures 4.
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Hades? You forgot something.
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And once again, I had a solid run up to the end of Elysium, and ate shit in the Theseus fight because I used Stubborn Defiance.
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@hungrier said in Can you even escape from Hades?:
And once again, I had a solid run up to the end of Elysium, and ate shit in the Theseus fight because I used Stubborn Defiance.
Meanwhile I managed to bring all 3 death defiance charges to the final fight, and used all 3. Though I didn't need my Skelly keepsake.
I have 3 prophecies yet to be fulfilled - some of them involving getting boons I saw @hungrier get in his first escape - and only a few relationships that need completing. Hypnos and Skelly, what do you want from me?
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6 hp left.
2 streak, 11 heat
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Status: Tried out the time limit punishment and hoped I could do the thing fast enough.
So what happened?
I got an absolutely insane loadout and speedran through hell, demolishing everything behind me:
Highlights:
- Epic Greatest Reflex and Hyper Sprint
- Early-ish Rare Crop that got applied to Deadly Flourish and Tidal Dash, bringing them up to Heroic by the end
- Athena's attack boon that got replaced by a Heroic Frost Strike
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Killing Freeze can do a lot of heavy lifting, I tell you what.
I do have Aspect of Eris which I hear is good, but I didn't have Hazard Bomb for the prophecy. For some reason Theseus fell before Asterius for the first time.
My luck in this game is all over the place. That's 4 or 5 runs now trying to get Blown Kiss for the prophecy and the game refusing to drop it. even with that newly purchased reroll. But I think every time I've made it to the sack it's been on the second door (first possible).
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@coderpatsy said in Can you even escape from Hades?:
That's 4 or 5 runs now trying to get Blown Kiss for the prophecy and the game refusing to drop it.
Did you get the prerequisite boon? I believe it's an upgrade to the Aphrodite cast boon.
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@error Yep, that's counting runs with Crush Shot which is the sole prerequisite listed in the wiki. I should doublecheck ingame, if it does list boons you've not gotten before.
While I'm here, the next run I thought was bad, but nonetheless...
I used all my defiances on Theseus, before I even got the duo again. I wasn't even trying for it, I just wanted Killing Freeze.
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Today in Fisting Simulator, I was so OP that I couldn't use any of my revive powerups
I also found all the fountains
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What started out as a screw-around run, just gathering loads of money to see how that would go, turned into a cast focused run with lazors everywhere. It was complete chaos on screen, impossible to see what was going on, but with everything being Chill'd and Doom'd I was dealing tons of damage all around.
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I made employee of the month!
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I got sick of dying in the third phase final boss fight, so I'm catching up some of my other weapons on heat level.
Third phase isn't even really harder than the others, it's just I'm barely still standing by the time I get there.
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I've had 65 runs so far, and what better time to take a look at my stats
than when I'm supposed to be working?- Escaped: 6
- Killed by Redacted: 22
- Killed by champions: 9
- Died like a chump: 28
I might put this in a spreadsheet later on to track my progress in more detail
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@hungrier said in Can you even escape from Hades?:
I've had 65 runs so far, and what better time to take a look at my stats
than when I'm supposed to be working?- Escaped: 6
- Killed by Redacted: 22
- Killed by champions: 9
- Died like a chump: 28
I might put this in a spreadsheet later on to track my progress in more detail
I'll aggregate my stats after I
escapedie this run.Is there a quick way to do it?
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Actually, if we can get more people on this train, I could write a SPA where we can track and compare stats.
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@error said in Can you even escape from Hades?:
@hungrier said in Can you even escape from Hades?:
I've had 65 runs so far, and what better time to take a look at my stats
than when I'm supposed to be working?- Escaped: 6
- Killed by Redacted: 22
- Killed by champions: 9
- Died like a chump: 28
I might put this in a spreadsheet later on to track my progress in more detail
I'll aggregate my stats after I
escapedie this run.Is there a quick way to do it?
Dunno if the game offers anything quicker, but I just scrolled through the runs in the admin room and tallied up each one
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I guess you could capture video of scrolling through the list and run some OCR on it
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Escape: 22
Redacted: 41
Champions: 16
Chump: 62(Charon is a good chunk of chump deaths, a few to Bull of Minos.)
I'm currently on a 2 streak.
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@error said in Can you even escape from Hades?:
(Charon is a good chunk of chump deaths, a few to Bull of Minos.)
If I had any of the post-credits bosses I would've made separate categories for them, since they are presumably at least as hard as the champions, as opposed to getting owned by regular enemies on your first run or the other stuff that I put in the chump category. If/when I make my spreadsheet I'll categorize them the way the game does (area/boss/special room)