Things that remind you of WDTWTF members
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Okay back on topic.
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A software engineer and a doctor, coding in harmony
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@Gąska said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
upset any more people with unfunny bickering.
Can you think of anything that would be more topical in this thread?
Edit: apart from posting shit that's been said already because CBA to read first?
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@Gąska said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
Okay back on topic.
I get it, it's because syntax error!!
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@dcon said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
@Arantor said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
@Benjamin-Hall "Quite easily, I work for a living."
"Those" people have no concept of what that 4 letter word is or what it means.
Maybe they haven't been introduced to the home office for steel workers yet.
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@djls45 said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
The Latin letters have generally the same or very similar sounds across most of the languages and dialects that use them, which is why learning spelling via phonetics is so useful and successful. English is weird and difficult on this because it takes pronunciation rules from multiple languages, so in order to spell a word correctly in English, you may have to know which rules to follow. But even if you fail to spell a word correctly, the word is still generally recognizable via phonetic pronunciation of the letters.
ghoti
Contrastingly, you cannot learn Chinese "spelling" via phonetics.
Well ackshually, typing pinyin is probably what most people do now that ink and brush have fallen a bit out of fashion
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@Gąska said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
@djls45 said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
depending on dialect or even spoken language
I refuse to read the rest of your post because of this part.
Then how do you know whether I'm making the point you think I'm making?
I thought I explained in sufficient detail why talking about different dialects - and especially different languages - is missing the point.
Case in point: И. Is there a particular sound for it? Isn't there?
I don't know Cyrillic or the languages that use it, but apparently, the sound is either "ih" or "ee", depending on language/dialect, but here's the point: it's not "ah" or "mm" or "ng" or anything else; it's one of the sounds very close to "ih" or "ee".
Why yes, why no? Why yes for И but no for 妈?
You don't use 妈 for every instance of "mā" in Chinese words to indicate their pronunciation. You do use И for "ih" or "ee" in Cyrillic languages.
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@LaoC said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
ghoti
A very fun (mis-)application of English phonetic spelling rules.
For those who have never come across it before:
"gh" as in "tough"
"o" as in "women"
"ti" as in "nation"
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"ghoti" = "fish"
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@djls45 said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
@Gąska said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
@djls45 said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
depending on dialect or even spoken language
I refuse to read the rest of your post because of this part.
Then how do you know whether I'm making the point you think I'm making?
Because just mentioning those makes it clear you don't even read what I'm saying. For example, just now I asked you to reply in a new thread if you want to continue this, for the sake of others. You didn't.
I thought I explained in sufficient detail why talking about different dialects - and especially different languages - is missing the point.
Case in point: И. Is there a particular sound for it? Isn't there?
I don't know Cyrillic or the languages that use it, but apparently, the sound is either "ih" or "ee", depending on language/dialect
That's not even the full set of И sounds in Russian - let alone Bulgarian, Macedonian, Ukrainian and other languages that use Cyrillic. A very good way to make Ukrainians hate your guts is pronounce И as if it was Russian. BTDT.
You don't use 妈 for every instance of "ma" in Chinese words to indicate their pronunciation.
Likewise, you don't use И for every instance of "ee". There are at least 4 more.
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@kazitor said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
A software engineer and a doctor, coding in harmony
Did someone saying coding?
Edit to add: yes, I realize
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@Gąska Look, I'm mostly agreeing with you. You can figure out the pronunciation of most languages by looking at the letters as they're spelled, because most languages use alphabets or syllabaries.
English is an exception to that because English combines several different alphabetic spelling systems, each with different pronunciations of its alphabetic glyphs and their combinations. Other languages may have different pronunciations for the same glyphs, like your example of И, but they tend to be consistent within a given language/dialect, yes?
Chinese doesn't have phonemic spelling, so you can't just look at the parts of a word-glyph itself to figure out how to pronounce it like you can with the alphabet or syllabary that most other languages have. That's all I'm saying.
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@djls45 said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
Chinese doesn't have phonemic spelling, so you can't just look at the parts of a word-glyph itself to figure out how to pronounce it like you can with the alphabet or syllabary that most other languages have. That's all I'm saying.
If that really is all, then you're all wrong. And if your defense of why you're not wrong includes the word "dialect", you're not listening. And seriously, if you want to keep talking about it, make a new thread already.
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If you don't mind me rerailing the topic for a bit...
https://imgur.com/gallery/wf8QCcy
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@Zerosquare said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
If you don't mind me rerailing the topic for a bit...
https://imgur.com/gallery/wf8QCcyOMFG
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@Zerosquare said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
If you don't mind me rerailing the topic for a bit...
https://imgur.com/gallery/wf8QCcy: Is it time to build my own keyboard?
: Of course it is. Do it!
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@MrL said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
Obviously the keyboard is not finished. It's missing the part with the numbers.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
@MrL said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
Obviously the keyboard is not finished. It's missing the part with the numbers.
The what?
high time to clean it
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@MrL Go back to the store and tell them to give you the rest of the keyboard! They cheated you!
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@MrL said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
@Applied-Mediocrity said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
@MrL said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
Obviously the keyboard is not finished. It's missing the part with the numbers.
The what?
high time to clean it
These:
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@Gąska said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
upset any more people with unfunny bickering.
Can you think of anything that would be more topical in this thread?
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@Gribnit
take that shit to the "E-peen: my keyboard is the grossest" thread
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@djls45 said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
@LaoC said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
ghoti
A very fun (mis-)application of English phonetic spelling rules.
For those who have never come across it before:
"gh" as in "tough"
"o" as in "women"
"ti" as in "nation"
∴
"ghoti" = "fish"Thanks for that explanation. I was wondering what a "foe-tee" was.
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@Gribnit said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
@MrL said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
@Applied-Mediocrity said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
@MrL said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
Obviously the keyboard is not finished. It's missing the part with the numbers.
The what?
high time to clean it
These:
Ah, spacers.
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@Luhmann said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
take that shit to the "E-peen: my keyboard is the grossest" thread
Judging by the amount of dirt on the actual keys, the part seems superfluous - nobody seems to have used it for a long time.
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@Luhmann said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
@Gribnit
take that shit to the "E-peen: my keyboard is the grossest" threadYou should see my work keyboard.
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@cvi said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
@Luhmann said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
take that shit to the "E-peen: my keyboard is the grossest" thread
Judging by the amount of dirt on the actual keys, the part seems superfluous - nobody seems to have used it for a long time.
It was mostly for nethack, and then I switched to vi movement there, and so now the only keys used on that keyboard are WASD-adjacent.
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@Gribnit said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
nethack [...] vi movement [...] only keys used on that keyboard are WASD-adjacent
I have found the impostor. Vi-inspired movement would use hjkl.
Filed under: Not exactly a surprising conclusion.
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@cvi got bored after ascension (parré!). Then I naturally transitioned into FTL and some soup game and SPAZ and Terraria and such, which none of them hjkl unless you make them do so with your normal human hands.
I therefore conclude that you are in fact a giant spider.
As to posterdom, reptiloids don't exist. And, we didn't exist way before you did.
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@Gribnit said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
These:
People use those? Intentionally? (In that photo, dust and other debris say “apparently not”…)
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@dkf did you ever hear the tragedy of Scroll Lock? It's an IBM legend.
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@topspin said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
the tragedy of Scroll Lock?
I prefer scrolls to have wax seals.
(No, I don't think I've heard that one.)
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@topspin That explains why I didn't recognise it; I've not seen that film.
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@topspin said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
the tragedy of Scroll Lock
It's a modifier key used in key combinations for virtualbox.
IIRC, back on dos, it would prevent additional output (and I think block the program) when that output would cause the screen to scroll. I wouldn't be surprised if it still does that in text mode linux.
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@dkf said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
People use those? Intentionally?
I do. But generally only for my dog shows. Where almost all the input is numbers.
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@PleegWat said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
IIRC, back on dos, it would prevent additional output (and I think block the program) when that output would cause the screen to scroll. I wouldn't be surprised if it still does that in text mode linux.
It still does that in Excel, too. (Or at least, it did for a long time. I don't have Office 365 to test it.)
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@PleegWat said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
I wouldn't be surprised if it still does that in text mode linux.
It doesn't even toggle the LED on my keyboard. (It does on my Windows box - not that it does anything apparent...)
edit: @Zerosquare, Too to open Excel to see... (but not to post!)
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My brother recently posted this:
Um. Yeah.
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@dcon I am almost in this post, but I don't sleep enough.
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@HardwareGeek said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
@dcon I am almost in this post, but I don't sleep enough.
This is true. It's only my dogs that think I sleep too much.
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@HardwareGeek said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
@dcon I am almost in this post, but I don't sleep enough.
I can't generally sleep more than about 8 before my back starts to hurt.
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@boomzilla said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
I can't generally sleep more than about 8 before my back starts to hurt.
I'm in this post and I'm not sure if it's even legal to have back pain of that sort at my age
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@boomzilla said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
@HardwareGeek said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
@dcon I am almost in this post, but I don't sleep enough.
I can't generally sleep more than about 8 before my back starts to hurt.
Get a harder mattress, or some kinda spine support. Does this happen when you sleep in a corset?
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@Gribnit how did you know?!
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@dcon what if you hoard
- shiny things of esoteric but impractical use
- eat too little
- sleep too little
- don't like leaving your cave and/or hut and/or tower
- have an excessive desire to consume annoying humans in pillars of black lightning?
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@dkf said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
@topspin That explains why I didn't recognise it; I've not seen that film.
No-one has. It was a collective mass hallucination brought about by a total lack of activity in the franchise. Not much published yet but it's fascinating, try talking to the Media Lab folks
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@Gribnit said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
No-one has. It was a collective mass hallucination
Having seen Ep. 9 The Rise of Garbage, I can say any kind of hallucination surely would've been more entertaining.
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@topspin said in Things that remind you of WDTWTF members:
I can say any kind of hallucination surely would've been more entertaining.
Well, an individual hallucination rises to the standard of the individual, whereas a mass hallucination...