Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!
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@Zecc said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
When a laptop maker has a touchpad that allows me to switch virtual desktops with a three finger swipe I will immediately buy their machines.
My non-Apple laptop has that. I thought it was a Windows 10 thing?
I don't think any laptop I've ever had would do it. Lenovo, Samsung, HP, Dell. AFAIK, none of them would do it. Maybe I should dig through settings on the 2-3 I have now.
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@Luhmann said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@admiral_p said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
The Ebola outbreak was, like, eight years ago?
2019 in Congo, but apparently no one cares about Congo.
Apparently not even Congo.
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@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I had a deployment to kick off this morning. I left the house around 9am. The city I live in was.....creepy as fuck. That's the only way I can describe it.
Like a scene form The Walking Dead, but with semis still running. I drove across town and except for the normal semi traffic I only had maybe a dozen cars in my 15-20 mile trip across our 1 million plus population metropolitan area. It was pretty creepy, to be honest. The gloomy skies didn't help.
Not so much here. I see people everywhere, in the car, on bikes, jogging (the whole nation has turned into joggers because going outside is still healthy if you keep your distance, and there's nothing else to do), and in the park. I saw a video yesterday that the police cleared the park and sent people home, but when I passed it today there were still large groups, the usual students and their drinking games, playing football, etc.
Despite Merkel's address to the nation yesterday demanding everybody to show solidarity and comply with the suggested distancing, people don't seem to take it seriously. (While she didn't say it, some people have interpreted it as implicitly warning that if people don't do it, mandatory measures like in France will be on the table)
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@mikehurley said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
My 65 year old dad has a smartphone.
My 84 year old dad does too. Of course, he's very tech savvy - he worked at Bell Labs his whole career.
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@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Ditto for trackballs, while some people swear by them.
I tried several of those. Almost every one of those cause pain in my thumb.
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@dkf said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
The real complications for that graph have to do with the differences in population size;
True, but I still find it a more useful graph than maps you see in most articles showing the number of cases per country. Knowing that country X has 42 cases and country Y has eleventy-billions-and-42 doesn't mean anything. Looking at the curves, on the other hand, isn't perfect, but it's better.
At least to me. But I do data analysis all day long, so I can't see two numbers without thinking they're a data set and I can't see a data set without wondering how I would tweak it to better understand what's driving it...
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@Unperverted-Vixen said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@remi said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
The progress of the human society in the past century or so is not that we can cure people (in this case, we can't really, or at least not yet). The biggest progress is that we can afford to shut down almost all movement of people, large chunks of the economy... and still have a functioning country.
That's because everybody getting fired due to coronavirus shutdowns is still able to pay for food with their credit cards. Give it a few weeks, and we'll see a very different tale.
I don't think so (or rather, I really hope not...), but even if that was true, in the meantime we would have managed a few weeks without collapse. A century ago, that would not have been possible.
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@remi said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@dkf said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
The real complications for that graph have to do with the differences in population size;
True, but I still find it a more useful graph than maps you see in most articles showing the number of cases per country. Knowing that country X has 42 cases and country Y has eleventy-billions-and-42 doesn't mean anything. Looking at the curves, on the other hand, isn't perfect, but it's better.
At least to me. But I do data analysis all day long, so I can't see two numbers without thinking they're a data set and I can't see a data set without wondering how I would tweak it to better understand what's driving it...
As usual, both ways to look at the numbers are useful in their own ways. They just tell you different things.
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@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Despite Merkel's address to the nation yesterday demanding everybody to show solidarity and comply with the suggested distancing, people don't seem to take it seriously. (While she didn't say it, some people have interpreted it as implicitly warning that if people don't do it, mandatory measures like in France will be on the table)
That seems to be the main problem with trying to talk to people as if they're reasonable adults
People's herp-derping, a tragedy in 3 acts:
Act 1: on Thursday evening Macron makes a speech saying schools would be closed from Friday evening, but that right now we need to stop gathering etc. Everyone says that he's right, and proceed to... get out with friends, enjoy a sunny Spring Saturday together, go to the pub.
Act 2: on Saturday evening (so 2 days later), the PM makes a speech saying that no really, people, we meant it, you need to stop seeing other persons and restaurants/bars/etc. would close from Saturday midnight. People immediately rush to the bars to enjoy one last night out.
Act 3: on Monday evening (again, 2 days), Macron speaks again to say that given we're all morons and incapable of following simple safety measures (I'm reformulating... although maybe it would have worked better if he'd said it this way?), we'll be locked down in our homes from Tuesday midday. Which of course means that on Tuesday morning everyone rushed to the shops etc. (despite clear and repeated instructions and explanations that there was no need to do so)
So yeah, people are dumb.
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@Polygeekery I have an Asus, for what it's worth.
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@boomzilla Yes. I guess I was perhaps more excited by seeing a new and less-seen graph, than by the graph itself.
What can I say, I do shameful things to
Data (data all day long for a living...)
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@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Don't start thinking I am some sort of "prepper"
I already thought that
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@remi said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla Yes. I guess I was perhaps more excited by seeing a new and less-seen graph, than by the graph itself.
What can I say, I do shameful things to
Data (data all day long for a living...)
I understand. I get similar tingley feelings.
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@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Ditto for trackballs, while some people swear by them.
I always liked them. Back when I had to do takeoffs from drawings and stuff like that, basicish CAD work, I loved them. I only switched back to mice when mice started getting useful things like back buttons and you couldn't get a trackball with one.
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@remi said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla Yes. I guess I was perhaps more excited by seeing a new and less-seen graph, than by the graph itself.
What can I say, I do shameful things to
Data (data all day long for a living...)
I assume you're trolling - Takei was not Data.
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@jinpa Not my fault that
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(no, not ) doesn't work. Had to pick what I could. Also if I can trigger a Trekkie on the way, all the better.And inb4 "PR accepted":
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Jeeze, I really hope that this news about chloroquine can be widely confirmed soon.
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@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Zecc said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
When a laptop maker has a touchpad that allows me to switch virtual desktops with a three finger swipe I will immediately buy their machines.
My non-Apple laptop has that. I thought it was a Windows 10 thing?
I don't think any laptop I've ever had would do it. Lenovo, Samsung, HP, Dell. AFAIK, none of them would do it. Maybe I should dig through settings on the 2-3 I have now.
I have Acer Aspire E5-575 and it does have that feature. I think a certain combination of Windows updates, touchpad drivers, and super secret system-wide tracking cookies controlling access to experimental features is required for it to work, but it's there.
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Jeeze, I really hope that this news about chloroquine can be widely confirmed soon.
Me, too. And thanks to the wonders of mail order pharmacies, I have a bunch of it in the house.
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@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Zecc said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
When a laptop maker has a touchpad that allows me to switch virtual desktops with a three finger swipe I will immediately buy their machines.
My non-Apple laptop has that. I thought it was a Windows 10 thing?
I don't think any laptop I've ever had would do it. Lenovo, Samsung, HP, Dell. AFAIK, none of them would do it. Maybe I should dig through settings on the 2-3 I have now.
I have Acer Aspire E5-575 and it does have that feature. I think a certain combination of Windows updates, touchpad drivers, and super secret system-wide tracking cookies controlling access to experimental features is required for it to work, but it's there.
I believe the maximum number of simultaneous touches a touchpad can track is limited by the hardware (and possibly the drivers).
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@Gąska I will dig back in to it then. To be fair, I haven't tried it for a long time. To also be fair, it should have been there at launch. Switching virtual desktops is slow and clunky without that when compared to Apple.
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@PleegWat said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Zecc said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
When a laptop maker has a touchpad that allows me to switch virtual desktops with a three finger swipe I will immediately buy their machines.
My non-Apple laptop has that. I thought it was a Windows 10 thing?
I don't think any laptop I've ever had would do it. Lenovo, Samsung, HP, Dell. AFAIK, none of them would do it. Maybe I should dig through settings on the 2-3 I have now.
I have Acer Aspire E5-575 and it does have that feature. I think a certain combination of Windows updates, touchpad drivers, and super secret system-wide tracking cookies controlling access to experimental features is required for it to work, but it's there.
I believe the maximum number of simultaneous touches a touchpad can track is limited by the hardware (and possibly the drivers).
It's not just about simultaneous touches. There's a whole Settings screen in Windows 10 dedicated to setting what various gestures mean. I have it on my Acer since always (bought it in 2017), but my father's brand new Lenovo with all the latest updates doesn't seem to have it at all. I couldn't find anything on Google about what determines visibility of those settings.
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@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
simultaneous touches
HEY HEY HEY! Social distancing!
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Seen on Facebook:
Some people aren't shaking hands because of the coronavirus. I'm not shaking hands because I don't know who's run out of toilet paper!
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News you can use:
https://rare.us/rare-humor/strip-club-virtual-reality-dances/
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@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
News you can use:
https://rare.us/rare-humor/strip-club-virtual-reality-dances/Not sure that's a good business idea. Once they push their customers in that direction, it's only a matter of time they find out PornHub exists.
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@acrow said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Might have to do with volumes and distribution networks. If the tapwater is safe, then bottled water has less of a market, so lower volumes, leading to increased unit price.
Don’t forget increased prestige for drinking bottled water, and herd mentality. Here in the Netherlands, tap water is perfectly safe to drink and doesn’t have added “flavour” from stuff added to make it safe, so there really is no need what-so-ever for plain water to be sold in bottles¹ yet people buy that and drink it nonetheless. The only reasons I can think of is that some people drink it because they can afford it, and many drink it because they see others drink it.
¹ Water with some added flavour, bubbles, etc. I can see the point of. Kind of, anyway.
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@PleegWat said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
if sea levels rise by a few metres I can see us diking the Waddenzee, and partially draining it to pay for the project.
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This would be nice, if true. I'm putting very little faith in it though, although I'm still plagued by uncertainty as to whether the increased numbers of cases are more due to ramped up testing or wider spread (in all likelihood both, but in what measure?). I hate when all the numbers we have are bad, and overreaction may be just as deadly as under reaction.
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@Gurth said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@acrow said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Might have to do with volumes and distribution networks. If the tapwater is safe, then bottled water has less of a market, so lower volumes, leading to increased unit price.
Don’t forget increased prestige for drinking bottled water, and herd mentality. Here in the Netherlands, tap water is perfectly safe to drink and doesn’t have added “flavour” from stuff added to make it safe, so there really is no need what-so-ever for plain water to be sold in bottles¹ yet people buy that and drink it nonetheless. The only reasons I can think of is that some people drink it because they can afford it, and many drink it because they see others drink it.
¹ Water with some added flavour, bubbles, etc. I can see the point of. Kind of, anyway.
It seems like most people here drink it while...out. Whether working or recreation or in the car or whatever. Of course, tap water varies a lot from place to place. Well water is notorious for being sulfurous and I would undoubtedly use bottled water a lot more if I had to deal with that.
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@mikehurley said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@blek said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Mason_Wheeler I don't think I've ever seen anyone over 60 with a smartphone.
Cultural difference? My 65 year old dad has a smartphone. His older brother and two older sisters have smartphones.
I had much the same thought. My father has a smartphone and my mother has an iPad, and they’re both in their 70s. Just about all my uncles and aunts, of ages comparable to my parents, some up to almost ten years older, have smartphones and use them, probably daily. (Well, I say “use them” — it’s not like they spend their whole time using all kinds of apps, but they could if they wanted to and someone explained/installed it for them).
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Don't forget about the convenience factor of having the bottles handy in the fridge.
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@blek said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
My mom was born in 1952 and she never learned to use a touchpad, she just couldn't figure it out, no matter how many times I showed her.
Heh … my mother, of about the same vintage, never could get the hang of using a mouse (she kept holding it wrong) but had no trouble learning to use a laptop touchpad or a touch screen.
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@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
When a laptop maker has a touchpad that allows me to switch virtual desktops with a three finger swipe I will immediately buy their machines.
(scroll down to Switch to another space)
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@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
tap water varies a lot from place to place. Well water is notorious for being sulfurous and I would undoubtedly use bottled water a lot more if I had to deal with that.
That’s why I specifically mentioned the Netherlands. If your tap water leaves a bad taste in your mouth (or is just plain undrinkable) then bottled water is useful and has a place. In areas where tap water is safe and has no unwanted flavour, I don’t see the point of it (from a consumer’s perspective, that is).
@Dragoon said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Don't forget about the convenience factor of having the bottles handy in the fridge.
Fill an empty bottle of some other beverage with tap water. It costs about 80 cents for a cubic metre around here. According to the web site of a leading supermarket, plain drinking water costs € 1.84 for 6 litres (twelve half-litre bottles) for their house brand. That’s €0.0008 per litre vs. ca. €0.30 per litre.
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@Gurth said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Fill an empty bottle of some other beverage with tap water. It costs about 80 cents for a cubic metre around here. According to the web site of a leading supermarket, plain drinking water costs € 1.84 for 6 litres (twelve half-litre bottles) for their house brand. That’s €0.0008 per litre vs. ca. €0.30 per litre.
That assumes you have another bottle. I actually do this with empty 2L soda bottles to take with me when I go to karate class. But I reuse them once and toss them. Using them over and over means that you have to wash them to stay healthy.
The biggest buyers of bottled water around here are Hispanic guys in dirty work clothing. I assume that take the bottles with them to wherever they're working.
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@Gurth said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Fill an empty bottle of some other beverage with tap water. It costs about 80 cents for a cubic metre around here. According to the web site of a leading supermarket, plain drinking water costs € 1.84 for 6 litres (twelve half-litre bottles) for their house brand. That’s €0.0008 per litre vs. ca. €0.30 per litre.
Think you underestimate the price people place on convenience.
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@Dragoon Probably, yes. Though I still don’t see how it’s more convenient to buy bottled water than to fill a empty bottle with tap water.
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@Gurth said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
When a laptop maker has a touchpad that allows me to switch virtual desktops with a three finger swipe I will immediately buy their machines.
(scroll down to Switch to another space)
That's what I was referring to. I want that on my Windows laptops.
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@remi said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
That seems to be the main problem with trying to talk to people as if they're reasonable adults
Here too. The recommendation to have your face covered (surgical masks preferred, but any cloth will do; the surgical masks are just piece of cloth with strings anyway) from yesterday was changed today to a rule (everywhere on the streets), plus the shops are reserved to people over 65 from 10 to 12 o'clock (in the morning, of course; we don't use 12-hour clock).
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Jeeze, I really hope that this news about chloroquine can be widely confirmed soon.
It's been in the works for some time already. Wikipedia references article from 13th February (in Korean). The new report is clinical trial, so it does indeed look good.
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@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gurth said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
When a laptop maker has a touchpad that allows me to switch virtual desktops with a three finger swipe I will immediately buy their machines.
(scroll down to Switch to another space)
That's what I was referring to. I want that on my Windows laptops.
When I go into "Touchpad settings" on my Surface Book, I can select "Change desktop and show desktop" under Three-Finger-Gestures.
If I then swipe left or right with three fingers I can switch between the virtual desktops. That what you want?
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@Gurth said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@PleegWat said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
if sea levels rise by a few metres I can see us diking the Waddenzee, and partially draining it to pay for the project.
I've heard of that one before, though I hadn't seen any details. Interestingly, I also recall that "The yearly GDP of the affected area" is about what the Zuiderzee works cost at the time.
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
When I go into "Touchpad settings" on my Surface Book, I can select "Change desktop and show desktop" under Three-Finger-Gestures.
If I then swipe left or right with three fingers I can switch between the virtual desktops. That what you want?Yes. Now I need to see if it works on non-Surface devices.
I think I'm about due to get a Surface. It would cover 95% of my usage.
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