Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!
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@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@dfdub said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Let's ask the internet:
In 2008, Polish government has temporarily increased VAT tax rates until the financial crisis is over. 12 years and counting...
Huh, over here we have decreased VAT rates. Obviously to no effect at all, I’m not going to suddenly buy something because I save 3 cents on the
dollar€. But hey, we did something.I don't think it's obvious at all. Especially since the intended effect is not "let's buy more stuff"; it is supposed to counter the "let's buy less stuff and save money" attitude. Even with reduced VAT, prices did went up (I did not notice that myself, but my sister did - she made a whole half-year pause in her shopping trips to Germany).
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@Dragoon said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Karla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Karla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
My primary wants to see me in person soon and she is close to work, so I may take a day to go to work in order to go to that appointment. My ophthalmologist is there too, so do that appt as well.
The commute is actually nearly a non-factor for me. The office is only about 2.5 miles away. Depending on traffic lights, I can be there in 5 - 10 minutes.
My office is 10 miles away, 45 min subway ride. Bike ride is a bit over an hour. So not looking forward to wasting that time.
Man am I happy I can drive to work, ~9.5 miles to my office takes 15-20 min without traffic.
Yeah, this in NYC.
I have been considering getting an e-bike conversion kit so I don't have work the entire 10 miles (I'm too out of shape) but still can get some exercise. And that would make the trip shorter.
And with no one else at the office (for the most part) I could probably get away with changing in the bathroom.
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I normally bike the ~4km, nearly all of which is dedicated bike path. I insist on still considering that normal, even though mandatory work-form-home has now been in effect for nearly 6 months
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@PleegWat said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I normally bike the ~4km, nearly all of which is dedicated bike path. I insist on still considering that normal, even though mandatory work-form-home has now been in effect for nearly 6 months
I had just started biking regularly about the same distance but on the streets. Most of it with a decent bike lane. It is also hilly which makes it more interesting and probably a better workout.
Then I sprained my ankle 5 weeks ago. Finally getting back to normal.
Though in terms of biking to work, it will probably be really fun going down 5th Ave with the reduced traffic.
I once got a chance to go down 5th Ave without cars (police blocking off traffic for a parade). I ask the cop, can I go? He's like sure. It was pretty fun.
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@Karla
Around here there are annual events in major cities where the city center is made car free.
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@dcon said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I judge a good commute will be 20 m[eters] (US101 and CA237, or surface streets with an unsynced light every 100 y[ears])
That's how I read this at first... (no intended, just found it amusing)
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Interesting video with a survey of lots of stuff:
tl;dw:
- Big reason for high impact was very light flu season in 2019-2020
- Masks and lockdowns had minimal impacts
- Deaths follow "normal" respiratory seasonality based on local climate
- Currently in "casedemic" based mainly on increased testing, but deaths haven't followed
- Current distancing during Summer could lead to more severe flu / COVID season in the coming Winter by reducing amount of community immunity during a relatively respiratory disease safe season
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My daughter's school is planning to go hybrid on Octorber 15th.
I still expect that to be pushed off.
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@Karla by 3 weeks, no more, no less?
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@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Karla by 3 weeks, no more, no less?
Probably.
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Well, this is awkward.
https://fox17.com/news/local/covid-19-emails-from-nashville-mayors-office-show-disturbing-revelation
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@lolwhat The story is gone ( whether Fox pulled it, Sinclair pulled it, or the station pulled it) but the thumbnail is still up.
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@TwelveBaud for the benefit of @obeselymorbid and other future readers - one person asked for COVID death stats, another replied (in somewhat panicky manner IMO) "it's not going to be released to public, right?" and the first one assured that no, it's not.
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@TwelveBaud said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@lolwhat The story is gone ( whether Fox pulled it, Sinclair pulled it, or the station pulled it) but the thumbnail is still up.
I just glanced at the article this morning; if I recall, part of the e-mails was that data release laws prohibited release of any health statistics if the sample size was less than 10.
Well... yes. I don't deal much with PHI, but I've delved much further into the Privacy Act of 1974 than most people have, and I've heard much more insane readings of similar statutes.
That's a far cry from "keeping it secret". I would imagine the mayor's office and the Metro Health Department would like to advertise that cases were so low. Unless you're a wearer.
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@TwelveBaud This one should stay up:
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@heterodox said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
That's a far cry from "keeping it secret".
The problem (if the thumbnail is not misleading; precludes investigating further) was that they didn't want to highlight the fact that case numbers were increasing to the point where data release was possible. But whatever embarrassment there is really ought to be balanced against the fact that increasing numbers indicate a higher risk to people.
It's the damned incubation time that keeps causing people to fuck this stuff up. The idea that something that happened two weeks ago can have a real impact on you now just seems to be alien to a large fraction of the global population.
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An interesting thing is the lack of a sharp rise in deaths from the rise of cases across Europe. Deaths seem to be on a downward trend, even though the increase in cases is older than the incubation time.
Did most of the at risk population already die? Or is it something people are doing, or not doing, that's affecting the mortality rates?
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@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Did most of the at risk population already die? Or is it something people are doing, or not doing, that's affecting the mortality rates?
Simple.
- The profile of people getting it is younger this time round (as many of the elderly have been very careful all the way through).
- Death rates lag cases anyway.
- Hospitals are not yet overloaded. That's when death rates really spike.
- There are better (but not great) treatment plans in place, so fewer people progress to the most serious forms of the disease and fewer die.
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@dkf said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
The profile of people getting it is younger this time round
I wonder how much of this is actually caused by changes in testing strategies: At the beginning, tests were hard to come by, so they were primarily reserved for the high-risk people (i. e. mostly older people). Now case loads are lower and tests more readily available, so more low-risk people get tested, which pushes the average age of "confirmed cases" down (but not necessarily the average age of actual cases).
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The Senior Citizens State doesn't require masks
or social distancinganymore, although it still has some social distancing in place. So...
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@lolwhat said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
The Senior Citizens State doesn't require masks or social distancing anymore. So...
I see that rental income from restaurants must be dropping worryingly, so someone called a friend in the state capitol…
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@dkf said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@lolwhat said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
The Senior Citizens State doesn't require masks or social distancing anymore. So...
I see that rental income from restaurants must be dropping worryingly, so someone called a friend in the state capitol…
How do you know that's what happened?
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@lolwhat said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
How do you know that's what happened?
Technically, I don't. But I don't need to see the dead rat in the A/C ducting to know that something stinks.
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@lolwhat said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
The Senior Citizens State doesn't require masks
or social distancinganymore, although it still has some social distancing in place. So...I like it:
Private businesses can still operate with any self-imposed restrictions under the order. For instance, a restaurant can choose not to open the dining room at all, or at 25% capacity if they chose.
Cool Moose Café in Riverside said it will be taking the change at its own pace.
People acting like they have their own agency and liberty and responsibility.
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@boomzilla also, it looks like they've gotten over their spike (which we'd expect to come later than northern states due to their climate) so the timing is probably good:
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(Honesty note: it's not a huge study so beware. But even so.) I thought Vitamin D would be involved. It's such a good reason for a lot of why the prognosis upon catching COVID is worse for some groups of people; they all tend to have lower levels of that vitamin.
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@dkf it's an underappreciated vitamin.
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@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@dkf it's an underappreciated vitamin.
Most are, I would say, until you start suffering vague complaints that are eventually traced back to a deficiency.
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@Gurth said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Most are, I would say, until you start suffering vague complaints that are eventually traced back to a deficiency.
... or to an excess intake.
Vitamins can be quite poisonous if you take to much of them!
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@Gurth said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@dkf it's an underappreciated vitamin.
Most are, I would say, until you start suffering vague complaints that are eventually traced back to a deficiency.
Vitamin D is an extremely common low-level deficiency at high latitudes, or among people who are more housebound.
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@dkf especially after the last few years where there's been a lot of attention paid to the sun and skin cancer, so a lot of people have been avoiding exposure more than normal.
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@dkf well, great, it’s not like my basement-dwelling has been reduced during this WFH episode.
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@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@dkf especially after the last few years where there's been a lot of attention paid to the sun and skin cancer, so a lot of people have been avoiding exposure more than normal.
I should probably just google (but ):
Does sun screen significantly reduce Vitamin D production?
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@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@dkf especially after the last few years where there's been a lot of attention paid to the sun and skin cancer, so a lot of people have been avoiding exposure more than normal.
I should probably just google (but ):
Does sun screen significantly reduce Vitamin D production?Yes, daily use of sunscreen has been shown to lead to D insufficiency.
As does being dark skinned and living in Sweden.
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@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
it’s not like my basement-dwelling has been reduced during this WFH episode
Basements are bad if you get it, but might encourage not getting it in the first place.
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:geralt: Fuck.
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@error Looks like some backlogs got cleared or someone found some results in a drawer or something else stupid. That spike hasn't shown up at Worldometers:
I wouldn't worry about that.
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@BernieTheBernie said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gurth said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Most are, I would say, until you start suffering vague complaints that are eventually traced back to a deficiency.
... or to an excess intake.
Vitamins can be quite poisonous if you take to much of them!Depends on which one it is, I think. I have been taking (on my doctor’s prescription, due to the type of vague complaints I mentioned) a vitamin B12 tablet every day for the last almost-two months. On the label, for “percentage of daily recommended amount” it says “40,000”. So far, I don’t feel poisoned, but it has cleared up a lot of the complaints I had a few months ago.
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@dkf said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gurth said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@dkf it's an underappreciated vitamin.
Most are, I would say, until you start suffering vague complaints that are eventually traced back to a deficiency.
Vitamin D is an extremely common low-level deficiency at high latitudes, or among people who are more housebound.
Or those of us with very pale skin.
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If those findings are confirmed, this sounds like a potentially huge breakthrough. For more than 10% of the severe cases, the exact trigger is now known and the knowledge may be transferrable to other viral diseases. And we're one step closer to knowing all the non-obvious risk factors.
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The federal German agency for disease prevention maintains and updates a current list of countries and regions world-wide that are deemed risk regions. The ministry gives out travel warnings for those, meaning you are advised not to travel there. Right now you are mostly free to do that anyway, but may be forced to quarantine when coming back.
Just got informed by our boss about the current (employer) policies w.r.t. Corona. Obviously we should respect the warnings as much as possible, but if you do travel to some risk area and get sick when you return, you've been negligent and don't get sick pay. It feels like whatever the actual policies are got lost in a long game of telephone from headquarters to our local department, because I doubt it's actually stated like that. I'm not sure that is even legal. I am sure that it is not enforceable, because when I'm sick my employer only gets a notification from my doctor that I am sick (and for how long), not what sickness I have. It would just create perverse incentives to hide your infection as something else.
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@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
The federal German agency for disease prevention maintains and updates a current list of countries and regions world-wide that are deemed risk regions. The ministry gives out travel warnings for those, meaning you are advised not to travel there.
Apparently, people get confused about that list when it comes to the Netherlands, due to that stupid habit of calling the whole country “Holland” that pervades much of the world. A while ago, the provinces of North Holland and South Holland were placed on that German list, resulting in potential visitors thinking that “South Holland” means the whole south of the country, rather than:—
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@Gurth yes, but that problem is not specific to this.
It's because Holland entails more than just Holland.
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@topspin
It all just boils down to the fact that Holland is weird.
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@Gurth said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Depends on which one it is, I think.
IIRC, it depends primarily on if it's water-soluble or not. For most of those that are (e. g. vitamin C), you can take more or less as much as you want, as any excess intake gets washed out again with the urine. Those that aren't (e. g. vitamin A) take much longer to eliminate and thus they are dangerous. Also, I remember some of the vitamins in the B group are non-soluble, but for these, the vitamin supplement tables contain their water-soluble precursors instead of the "actual" vitamin.
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@ixvedeusi Also, D is a special case as we can make it in the skin if we're in strong enough sunlight. But for the sunlight-deprived, even though it is fat-soluble, the deficiency is such that taking D supplements is a good idea.
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@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I'm not sure that is even legal.
It's not.
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@Luhmann said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
It all just boils down to the fact that Holland is weird.
Says the B***ian.
Filed under: glass houses, rocks
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@HardwareGeek said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Luhmann said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
It all just boils down to the fact that Holland is weird.
Says the B***ian.
Filed under: glass houses, rocks
Isn't Holland just North Belgium anyway?