do modern tvs still cut the borders when used as a monitor?
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I remember old tvs did that, now I need a new TV, and I want to know if a regular one can be used as a monitor or I need one specifically advertised as that. (These I can't find larger than 28" at bumfuckistan market)
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@sockpuppet7 I changed my TV a few months ago and I have a computer plugged into it, it displays perfectly the full screen. Can't say whether it's advertised as such or not (I did not care about that feature when buying) nor whether this would be true for all TVs.
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do modern tvs still cut the borders when used as a monitor?
Short answer: No.
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In my experience, the ones that cut borders were a bit fast-and-loose on their published specifications and were a few hundred pixels short of advertised, and that was why stuff was cut off.
If you look at 4K TV's as a PC monitor, the biggest thing to look up is response times. Some 4K TV's have a ton of intermediate processing that can cause hundreds of milliseconds of delay. This isn't noticeable when used as a TV, but you'll definitely notice it when you drag your mouse and the cursor doesn't begin moving until some large fraction of a second later. (I don't think 1080p TV's typically have this issue.)
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@mott555 said in do modern tvs still cut the borders when used as a monitor?:
Some 4K TV's have a ton of intermediate processing that can cause hundreds of milliseconds of delay.
Hm. I've never seen one (yet) where that processing can't be turned off, though.
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@heterodox Mine's a few years old now. Maybe it's not really an issue anymore with newer models.
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@heterodox said in do modern tvs still cut the borders when used as a monitor?:
@mott555 said in do modern tvs still cut the borders when used as a monitor?:
Some 4K TV's have a ton of intermediate processing that can cause hundreds of milliseconds of delay.
Hm. I've never seen one (yet) where that processing can't be turned off, though.
This is usually known as "game mode". Most TVs have one.
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@DoctorJones said in do modern tvs still cut the borders when used as a monitor?:
@heterodox said in do modern tvs still cut the borders when used as a monitor?:
@mott555 said in do modern tvs still cut the borders when used as a monitor?:
Some 4K TV's have a ton of intermediate processing that can cause hundreds of milliseconds of delay.
Hm. I've never seen one (yet) where that processing can't be turned off, though.
This is usually known as "game mode". Most TVs have one. "Game Mode" on mine turns off chroma 4:4:4 and turns all in-game text into a retina-melting fuzzy mess with misaligned colors. There's a tiny bit of input lag in the normal mode, but it's so short I don't really notice and it doesn't really affect me.
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@mott555 said in do modern tvs still cut the borders when used as a monitor?:
If you look at 4K TV's as a PC monitor,
Im looking for 700P 32" stuff, so I guess the response time shouldn't be an issue.
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@sockpuppet7 said in do modern tvs still cut the borders when used as a monitor?:
700P 32"
Filed under: It's an older meme, sir, but it checks out.
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@error dunno, LG just doesn't sell anything higher at 32", and it's main purpose is as a TV anyway.
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@sockpuppet7 I'm pretty sure they have 1080p screens at 32", although maybe in sockpuppet7stan it's Different™
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@sockpuppet7 said in do modern tvs still cut the borders when used as a monitor?:
it's main purpose is as a TV anyway
Even as a TV, 720P should be illegal
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@mott555 said in do modern tvs still cut the borders when used as a monitor?:
In my experience, the ones that cut borders were a bit fast-and-loose on their published specifications and were a few hundred pixels short of advertised, and that was why stuff was cut off.
Modern flatpanel TVs or CRT ones? The latter cut stuff off because the electron beam deliberately covered a larger area than the visible part of the tube, and also because (as a result of this) teletext was transmitted in the upper margin.
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A Third World "modern" TV or an actual modern TV?
@sockpuppet7 said in do modern tvs still cut the borders when used as a monitor?:
700P 32"
Ah.
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@Gurth Flat panels. They'd advertise them as 1080p, but used LCD or plasma panels a bit lower than that, and instead of scaling the image down they'd cut off anything outside its range. Flat panel TV's finally became affordable when I was in college, and this was a frustration to some of my Xbox buddies who bought cheap HDTV's just to play Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4 and then had important parts of the screen cut off during gameplay.
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Speaking of strange panel sizes, why do 720p TVs use 1366x768 panels? Is it just to make sure that if you ever want to watch any actual 720p content, it'll either look nasty scaled up or shrink into the middle of your screen?
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@hungrier said in do modern tvs still cut the borders when used as a monitor?:
why do 720p TVs use 1366x768 panels?
. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR7LOtMix9w&start=155&version=3
Edit: stupid onebox ignores the start time
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@loopback0 They used to sell 32" at full hd, but stopped. Now I only find it on 42" and up.
