EU testing "lie-detecting" AI on external borders
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@PleegWat said in EU testing "lie-detecting" AI on external borders:
@Cursorkeys said in EU testing "lie-detecting" AI on external borders:
I also wonder what the false-positive is like on those things.
I suspect they are legally required to keep the false-positive rate zero, interpreted as 'as small as possible', which causes the false negative/fail rate to be so high.
In other words, glasses, beards, new hair style - all guaranteed to fail. So obviously Apple is not the supplier.
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@Cursorkeys said in EU testing "lie-detecting" AI on external borders:
I bet this'll work as well as those stupid facial-recognition ePassport gates. You are supposed to poke your passport in and stand still while it recognises you:
Three times I've tried to use one and every single time it has failed.
I've used them nearly 30 times (I think) and they've worked every time. Most other people I've seen use them have had no issue either.
I did see a woman at Amsterdam airport get the "please see a human" message but just walk straight past into the terminal unchallenged.
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Or maybe their graphics card just couldn't handled it
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@loopback0 said in EU testing "lie-detecting" AI on external borders:
I've used them nearly 30 times (I think) and they've worked every time. Most other people I've seen use them have had no issue either.
Same here.
But I don't like to use them, because it's generally much slower than walking past the immigrations officer, at least in Amsterdam airport.I did see a woman at Amsterdam airport get the "please see a human" message but just walk straight past into the terminal unchallenged.
How? The gate won't open?
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@nerd4sale said in EU testing "lie-detecting" AI on external borders:
How? The gate won't open?
It opens so you can walk forwards to the immigration officer. Then she just wandered past them into the terminal.
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@blek said in EU testing "lie-detecting" AI on external borders:
The newest in plausible deniability technology.
Our research has found the AI has a higher error rate on (black people/white people/jews/women/men/homosexuals) (cross out what does not apply)
Apple has beat you to the punch.
From the article about facial recognition:
This was despite the pair having a number of different features, including different haircuts
Quality
Just a shame that the iPhone's face-unlock system should ignore the person's haircut. Imagine the outrage for "I had a haircut and now I can't unlock my phone!" ...
Precisely what I was just thinking.
From what I read, the system is even of capable of compensating for beard growth.
And the facial unlock feature isn't a security feature, but people tend to miss that. Not being a security feature it can play fast and loose with false positives.
There was a bit of reporting on how you could unlock your family's iPhones in the west when it was released, so nothing really new here.
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@kazitor said in EU testing "lie-detecting" AI on external borders:
@pie_flavor I believe the program I use for image manipulation can handle pasting transparency, but naturally it takes a while (like what, ten whole seconds?) to start and
Just copy-and-pasted a transparent image; the transparency propagated. So I guess any issues are the fault of the receiving application, because this was copied from Firefox like before.