Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...
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@Zerosquare said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
@Gurth said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
actually actively giving up British nationality costs something like €1500 (or was it £?).
The only people who give up citizenship are retarded ideologues. Why not tax them?
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@Gąska said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
The only people who give up citizenship are retarded ideologues.
Not necessarily. The US will happily tax your foreign income until you renounce your citizenship, regardless of where you live. I expect the UK to start doing the same as people continue to flee.
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@Unperverted-Vixen said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
@Gąska said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
The only people who give up citizenship are retarded ideologues.
Not necessarily. The US will happily tax your foreign income until you renounce your citizenship, regardless of where you live.
Not exactly true. If you live abroad, first $100k isn't taxed, and US has tax treaties with dozens of countries around the world, most of them in form of "if the person lives mostly in one country and the entire income is gained in this one country, then it's only taxed by this one country". But yes, tax
avoidanceoptimization is a valid reason why one might renounce citizenship.I expect the UK to start doing the same as people continue to flee.
Are people really fleeing? Or just securing their right to enter EU by getting double citizenship?
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@Gąska said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
Are people really fleeing? Or just securing their right to enter EU by getting double citizenship?
I wouldn't necessarily describe it as fleeing(1), and I would definitely change "enter" to "continue living in", since most countries won't accept requests for naturalisation unless the applicant is already living in the country, or at least not from unrich plebs like us.
Hmm. Actually, I did leave out one question they asked me. They wanted to know, as part of the "what are your motivations" section, how often I went back to the UK since I've been in France, with the goal of the question being to see if you are dedicated to being in France.
(1) And notably the rise in naturalisation applications is not from people who've left the UK post-Brexit, since it's usually too soon. Example: France requires a minimum delay of five years, except in some very specific circumstances that can't reasonably apply to people who've left the UK to do "ordinary" work, or who left after retirement.
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@Zerosquare said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
@Khudzlin said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
I'd guess most people wouldn't be able to name anyone beyond the PM (and I'll admit I wasn't even sure about the current one).
Quoted for truth ; I'd be curious to know how many citizens could answer that question correctly. This tends to happen when media attention is mainly focused on the president.
Compare that to Germany, where most foreigners would probably say "you have a president?"
(He's about as useful as the Queen, but elected)
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
the fee for applying for French naturalisation was fifty-five euros.
Do I have to speak French?
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@Gąska said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
@Zerosquare said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
@Gurth said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
actually actively giving up British nationality costs something like €1500 (or was it £?).
The only people who give up citizenship are retarded ideologues.
What does that mean? How can I unambiguously tell if some party or politician is an ideologue?
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@topspin said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
How can I unambiguously tell if some party or politician is an ideologue?
There’s a very simple rule of thumb: Do you see the party or politician as being on the same side of the political spectrum as yourself? If not, they’re probably ideologues.
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@Gurth good thing that I'm centrist!
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@Gąska said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
@Gurth good thing that I'm centrist!
Then everybody is on another side, so everybody's an ideologue.
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@Benjamin-Hall a pessimist says everybody else is wrong. An optimist says they're right about everything. A realist appeals to the mob and wins the election.
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@Gribnit said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
Do I have to speak French?
Yes. (Sorry.)
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@Unperverted-Vixen said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
I expect the UK to start doing the same as people continue to flee.
I don't. It would interfere with the tax management plans of too many senior government politicians or their spouses.
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@Zerosquare said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
@Gribnit said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
Do I have to speak French?
Yes. (Sorry.)
Although if he joins the French Foreign Legion, I believe that the fee is waived upon completion of his hitch.
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Yup. I wouldn't recommend it as an easy way to get French citizenship, though.
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@Zerosquare Besides, you'd still have to learn French.
Filed under: Not as bad as Phlegmish.
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@Zerosquare said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
Yup. I wouldn't recommend it as an easy way to get French citizenship, though.
Right. I've read some accounts of people who've done a hitch. The pay's pretty good (~$50K) if you're coming from a poor country, but it's a tad on the brutal side, especially if you talk back.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
- Several questions from me on what happens next and how it interacts with Brexit.(2)
So, "what happens next" involves a lot of waiting, but the first phase of the waiting is over. I have had an email from the SDANF (sous-direction de l'accès à la nationalité française), commonly called Rezé (because their offices are in a district of Nantes called that), saying that my dossier has been sent there.
Digging on the Internet revealed a significant number of people who read their copies of the same email (identical, totally), and somehow totally failed to understand what it meant, and in that category, I include the people answering questions. The key point (which I wanted to confirm) is that if you get this email, it means that the relevant officials in your local préfecture have approved your application and sent it on to the Ministry of the Interior for the next (and last) phase of approval. It is, apparently, rare for applications to be rejected by the Ministry after the préfecture approves them.
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@Steve_The_Cynic It makes sense to weed out applications at the lower level.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
somehow totally failed to understand what it meant, and in that category, I include the people answering questions.
That's not really surprising. Our laws are so well-written and easy to parse that it's not rare to get a completely wrong interpretation from public servants themselves. And even if you bring them official documents that clearly show they're wrong, they'll still insist they're right. And you have to play along, because things stall otherwise.
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@Khudzlin said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
@Steve_The_Cynic It makes sense to weed out applications at the lower level.
Absolutely. (I thought about just writing "Aucune doute..." here...)
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@Zerosquare said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
somehow totally failed to understand what it meant, and in that category, I include the people answering questions.
That's not really surprising. Our laws are so well-written and easy to parse that it's not rare to get a completely wrong interpretation from public servants themselves. And even if you bring them official documents that clearly show they're wrong, they'll still insist they're right. And you have to play along, because things stall otherwise.
For sure (and in fact that's a universal truth rather than an adverse comment about the French administration), but although I had a minor doubt about exactly where in the process that left me(1), it was clear that some (a majority, even) of the people on the forums in question, askers and answerers alike, understood far less of the email than I did.
(1) I mostly wanted to know what exactly the SDANF is.
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@Steve_The_Cynic That email is one of the later stages of testing to see if you’ve got what it takes to have the French nationality.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
@Khudzlin said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
@Steve_The_Cynic It makes sense to weed out applications at the lower level.
Absolutely. (I thought about just writing "Aucune doute..." here...)
That would be "Aucun doute". You need to practice your French more
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@Khudzlin said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
@Khudzlin said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
@Steve_The_Cynic It makes sense to weed out applications at the lower level.
Absolutely. (I thought about just writing "Aucune doute..." here...)
That would be "Aucun doute". You need to practice your French more
Ouch. Yes.
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@Steve_The_Cynic See, that's also what you need to practice if you want to blend in: you must comment on other people's writing/expression and get into heated arguments about what "proper" French is.
If you can't talk for at least 5 min about "au temps pour moi" vs. "autant pour moi" or "malgré que", you're not going to fit in.
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@remi said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
@Steve_The_Cynic See, that's also what you need to practice if you want to blend in: you must comment on other people's writing/expression and get into heated arguments about what "proper" French is.
If you can't talk for at least 5 min about "au temps pour moi" vs. "autant pour moi" or "malgré que", you're not going to fit in.
And yet in ten years working where I work, I've never, ever seen this sort of discussion happen. A certain amount of snark about the Académie, but not this sort of blither about grammar and etymology and so on.
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@bjolling said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
My money is still on the "no Brexit" scenario. PM May will not be able to get a better deal. (What's in it for the EU to start negotiating again? What is the UK offering in exchange?). Without a deal, she will be forced to postpone the withdrawal. This will push the issue past the elections which I bet the remain camp will win.
Filed Under: You heard it here fristMy prediction still going strong!
[x] PM May will not be able to get a better deal
[x] she will be forced to postpone the withdrawal
[x] This will push the issue past the elections
[..] the elections which (...) the Remain camp will win.
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But what happens next? Now that the gears are in motion, can they be stopped easily? I'm not sure the EU would be very willing to tell the UK "come back, all is forgiven", either.
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@Zerosquare said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
But what happens next?
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@Zerosquare said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
But what happens next?
Brenter?
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@Mingan cancexit?
breenter?
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@Zerosquare said in Do .EU have a domain registered in the UK? .EU may not have long to reregister it elsewhere...:
I'm not sure the EU would be very willing to tell the UK "come back, all is forgiven", either.
Coming back requires leaving in the first place.
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They've not actually left yet, but the leaving process has been running for some time now. I doubt the political equivalent of adding
ON BREXIT RESUME NEXT
would be sufficient.
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There was a ruling by EU high court (don't remember what's its name) that they can stop the leaving process at any time.
EU officials remind them about it all the time.