Acupuncture. With live bees. Anaphylactic shock and death ensues...
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@rhywden said in Acupuncture. With live bees. Anaphylactic shock and death ensues...:
given the fact that static magnetic fields have roundabout zero potential to induce a biochemical reaction
Except that it's known some animals appear able to detect the Earth's magnetic field and use it for navigation. There's lots of speculation about how they do this; the actual mechanism is bound to be really fascinating for fans of biochemical and biomechanical weirdness.
Not that this has anything to do with using small magnets for medical purposes. Humans don't appear to have any of these mechanisms. ;)
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@kt_ said in Acupuncture. With live bees. Anaphylactic shock and death ensues...:
My girl really hates seeing people with genetic diseases that have children. I do understand her point. I mean, the question is simple: why? What for?
Invert the question: Why not? Why does she get to decide that?
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@dkf said in Acupuncture. With live bees. Anaphylactic shock and death ensues...:
@kt_ said in Acupuncture. With live bees. Anaphylactic shock and death ensues...:
My girl really hates seeing people with genetic diseases that have children. I do understand her point. I mean, the question is simple: why? What for?
Invert the question: Why not? Why does she get to decide that?
She doesn't.
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@dkf said in Acupuncture. With live bees. Anaphylactic shock and death ensues...:
@kt_ said in Acupuncture. With live bees. Anaphylactic shock and death ensues...:
My girl really hates seeing people with genetic diseases that have children. I do understand her point. I mean, the question is simple: why? What for?
Invert the question: Why not? Why does she get to decide that?
She doesn't get to 'decide' that. The point is that you are knowingly passing a maladaptive disfiguring genetic condition on to more people who then have to live their lives with that condition.
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@dkf said in Acupuncture. With live bees. Anaphylactic shock and death ensues...:
@rhywden said in Acupuncture. With live bees. Anaphylactic shock and death ensues...:
given the fact that static magnetic fields have roundabout zero potential to induce a biochemical reaction
Except that it's known some animals appear able to detect the Earth's magnetic field and use it for navigation. There's lots of speculation about how they do this; the actual mechanism is bound to be really fascinating for fans of biochemical and biomechanical weirdness.
I posit that it's probably more akin to the mechanism where people can sense magnetic fields by implanting tiny magnets into their hands.
I.e. it will most likely be something biomechanical - some compound or accumulation with magnetic properties. I rather doubt that it's a biological Hall sensor, though :)
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@rhywden said in Acupuncture. With live bees. Anaphylactic shock and death ensues...:
@dkf said in Acupuncture. With live bees. Anaphylactic shock and death ensues...:
@rhywden said in Acupuncture. With live bees. Anaphylactic shock and death ensues...:
given the fact that static magnetic fields have roundabout zero potential to induce a biochemical reaction
Except that it's known some animals appear able to detect the Earth's magnetic field and use it for navigation. There's lots of speculation about how they do this; the actual mechanism is bound to be really fascinating for fans of biochemical and biomechanical weirdness.
I posit that it's probably more akin to the mechanism where people can sense magnetic fields by implanting tiny magnets into their hands.
I.e. it will most likely be something biomechanical - some compound or accumulation with magnetic properties. I rather doubt that it's a biological Hall sensor, though :)
I vaguely remember reading somewhere that migratory birds have (may have?) magnetic particles close to their eyes, and the way they work affects the optical nerves. Meaning that the bird would "see" the magnetic field as e.g. changes in luminosity of the overall picture when they move their head around.
It's just a vague recollection, no idea if that was a proven mechanism or just a wild guess by some scientist.
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@kt_ said in Acupuncture. With live bees. Anaphylactic shock and death ensues...:
@pie_flavor said in Acupuncture. With live bees. Anaphylactic shock and death ensues...:
@dangeruss said in Acupuncture. With live bees. Anaphylactic shock and death ensues...:
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@polygeekery said in Acupuncture. With live bees. Anaphylactic shock and death ensues...:
@anotherusername said in Acupuncture. With live bees. Anaphylactic shock and death ensues...:
The really weird part of this is that she wasn't allergic to bee stings. And then she was.
IIRC from when I read about it earlier this week, this was her 24th time using this "therapy". Repeated exposure can cause anaphylaxis.
The immune system is really fucking dumb sometimes.
"Yeah, we've seen this protein a couple dozen times... it's never really caused much of an issue, aside from some minor pain." "Hey maybe this time let's mount a full-scale assault and literally kill ourselves trying to fight it off." "Sounds good, let's do it."
Yea seriously wtf... Why are our immune systems so dumb as to kill us for allergies? LIke shouldn't we have evolved past that by now?
We laugh in evolution's face, with our advanced medical science and speed in using it. If you are born with no limbs, for example, you will likely still be able to have a life, and there's guys with fetishes for that sort of thing out there so you'll probably be able to pass it on to your children too.
My girl really hates seeing people with genetic diseases that have children. I do understand her point. I mean, the question is simple: why? What for?
Biological imperative.
Though, I am sympathetic to the opinion.
And where do you draw the line?
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@benjamin-hall said in Acupuncture. With live bees. Anaphylactic shock and death ensues...:
There's a treatment out there. No one knows how it works. In fact, it shouldn't work by everything we know. But it does. On virtually everybody, obviously so. Very effectively. Do you use it?
Yes, if it's been proven to have an effect even if the mechanism isn't understood. But homeopathy and similar aren't in that category. Every well regulated study has found them to be ineffective, or placebo levels at best. So there's no reason to use them, because they demonstrably do not work
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In related news...
But the FSA has ruled there is in not enough evidence to prove that eating bee venom, a natural toxin, is safe - triggering a Europe-wide ban.
Clinton Lammas, who distributed the honey under the label Nectar Ease in the UK, last night branded the ruling “ridiculous”. He said he has already sold “about one hundred thousand” jars of the honey by mail order and in independent food stores across the country.
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@pjh said in Acupuncture. With live bees. Anaphylactic shock and death ensues...:
Clinton Lammas, who distributed the honey under the label Nectar Ease in the UK, last night branded the ruling “ridiculous”. He said he has already sold “about one hundred thousand” jars of the honey by mail order and in independent food stores across the country.
And he'll have to do quite a bit more work to recall all of them.