What even is performance
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Discourse:
https://i.imgur.com/hxWlmB0.png
NodeBB:
https://i.imgur.com/GX81ACF.png
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I guess you're too young to remember the days when multi-gigabyte discotabs were the norm.
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@boomzilla Discourse bugs were funny, NodeBB bugs are just annoying
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Fake news, everyone knows that German docs are only available offline.
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@sockpuppet7 said in What even is performance:
@boomzilla Discourse bugs were funny, NodeBB bugs are just annoying
s are funnier now that we don't have to be annoyed by them.
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@pie_flavor said in What even is performance:
Discourse:
https://i.imgur.com/hxWlmB0.png
NodeBB:
https://i.imgur.com/GX81ACF.pngJust make your memory 3px wider.
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Here are some non-cherry-picked results:
- Open a new browser tab.
- Type in the domain name of the website.
- Click on a single topic.
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Thanks @ben_lubar
If what @pie_flavor is seeing is memory usage creeping up over time, then that is potentially significant.
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@julianlam said in What even is performance:
Thanks @ben_lubar
If what @pie_flavor is seeing is memory usage creeping up over time, then that is potentially significant.
I wonder how much of it is just images and stuff like that being cached in memory and not unloaded until Chrome needs more memory.
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@ben_lubar It is a testament to our open-mindedness that we don't not-welcome-here discophiles.
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@ben_lubar maybe if it resized big images instead of just CSSing it away it would be better
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@julianlam said in What even is performance:
Thanks @ben_lubar
If what @pie_flavor is seeing is memory usage creeping up over time, then that is potentially significant.
Yep. Should have clarified. I spend a while browsing, and it just keeps creeping up to about 530MB, where it stops. It'll climb to the aforementioned ~600MB while idling on the Recents page, but then it'll get GCed back down to 530. I frequently find that after a tab's been in use for a while, the speed issues I keep whining about mostly disappear when I close it and open a new one.
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Chronological order, occasionally checked while clearing my unreads and notifications:
https://i.imgur.com/OnPphHf.png
https://i.imgur.com/AbgSQFj.png
https://i.imgur.com/zGKDukn.png
https://i.imgur.com/TeqVLQ7.png
https://i.imgur.com/SlTaEIv.png
https://i.imgur.com/06l4GHh.png
https://i.imgur.com/ieUy5a8.png
https://i.imgur.com/RHgRslp.png
https://i.imgur.com/30BVIi1.png
https://i.imgur.com/HWr02ww.png
The one of this thread was right after the music thread, so that one really inflates the RAM use, and you can see it was followed by more of the same. But the RAM seems to now have stabilized around here.
https://i.imgur.com/YQO8Ge4.png
Idling on this page, every so often, the memory will climb up to 710 or so, and then GC back to 625.
Edit: Now this seems to be the lower limit.
https://i.imgur.com/fClz0Dl.png
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@pleegwat said in What even is performance:
@ben_lubar It is a testament to our open-mindedness that we don't not-welcome-here discophiles.
We can't abuse them as much if we don't let them in.
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Lower level now here. Haven't closed the tab yet today.
https://i.imgur.com/eHVD72o.png
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This tab has been open for 3-4 days by now.
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You both using the same browser?
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From his screen shot I am assuming he is using chrome.
But I think the difference is in how we navigate. That tab is 3-4 days old, but it is only ever the unread page, I open all the threads in their own tab. I suspect that he uses the same tab for everything.
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@dragoon That is correct. That's the whole point of an SPA.
Also, this is now the stable number (i.e. the one that a GC wave goes down to).
https://i.imgur.com/y9R63cc.png
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Had my browser open since...
Huh, nearly a week I guess...
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@pie_flavor said in What even is performance:
@dragoon That is correct. That's the whole point of an SPA.
Also, this is now the stable number (i.e. the one that a GC wave goes down to).
https://i.imgur.com/y9R63cc.pngInsert blakeyrant about computers using their RAM.
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@tsaukpaetra Do you use the same tab for all of your WTDWTF browsing?
https://i.imgur.com/Zl6oC78.png
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@pie_flavor said in What even is performance:
@tsaukpaetra Do you use the same tab for all of your WTDWTF browsing?
https://i.imgur.com/Zl6oC78.pngYes. And you know how I browse WTDWTF too. Only time I open up another WTDWTF tab is when searching or otherwise researching multiple threads.
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@pie_flavor said in What even is performance:
If it matters, I'm still on
Version 64.0.3282.167 (Official Build) (64-bit)
until Chrome crashes or Windows updates.
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@tsaukpaetra I see a number that went up. Keep browsing and see how much farther up it goes.
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@pie_flavor said in What even is performance:
@tsaukpaetra I see a number that went up. Keep browsing and see how much farther up it goes.
Well, fuck I guess...
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This is incredible. I thought it would have topped out somehow by now. I'm starting to get lag spikes across my entire computer when the GC hits.
https://i.imgur.com/lHhizwD.png
Edit: Didn't wait long enough after the music thread. This is the real current bottom.
https://i.imgur.com/gYDeckE.png
That's still damned large. With Desmos open as well, Google Chrome is now taking up three gigabytes of RAM.
https://i.imgur.com/iAVxF5Y.png
I'm not killing this until it breaks something.
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@pie_flavor said in What even is performance:
This is incredible. I thought it would have topped out somehow by now. I'm starting to get lag spikes across my entire computer when the GC hits.
https://i.imgur.com/lHhizwD.png
Edit: Didn't wait long enough after the music thread. This is the real current bottom.
https://i.imgur.com/gYDeckE.png
That's still damned large. With Desmos open as well, Google Chrome is now taking up three gigabytes of RAM.
https://i.imgur.com/iAVxF5Y.png
I'm not killing this until it breaks something.And people piss on me for "being special with my system". :P
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@tsaukpaetra said in What even is performance:
If it matters, I'm still on Version 64.0.3282.167 (Official Build) (64-bit)
Likewise. I've had Chrome (and this tab, I think) open for a bit over 9 days:
One process managing 4 tabs, including this one, less memory than @pie_flavor's with this site only. (That GPU process, though...)
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@tsaukpaetra said in What even is performance:
Oh, I forgot to epeen, one second...
218 tabs; 11.8 GB. Top that!
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@hardwaregeek said in What even is performance:
@tsaukpaetra said in What even is performance:
Oh, I forgot to epeen, one second...
218 tabs; 11.8 GB. Top that!
I archive and close tabs I'm not yet ready to use, so at the moment I only have 74. I try to keep things down, as you may know.
There are only 19 topics in my /unread after all.
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@ben_lubar said in What even is performance:
@julianlam said in What even is performance:
Thanks @ben_lubar
If what @pie_flavor is seeing is memory usage creeping up over time, then that is potentially significant.
I wonder how much of it is just images and stuff like that being cached in memory and not unloaded until Chrome needs more memory.
Incomplete removal of oneboxed content does seem to be a significant issue. I've no idea what (if anything) can be done about that.
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@dkf said in What even is performance:
@ben_lubar said in What even is performance:
@julianlam said in What even is performance:
Thanks @ben_lubar
If what @pie_flavor is seeing is memory usage creeping up over time, then that is potentially significant.
I wonder how much of it is just images and stuff like that being cached in memory and not unloaded until Chrome needs more memory.
Incomplete removal of oneboxed content does seem to be a significant issue. I've no idea what (if anything) can be done about that.
Don't lie. There's a very obvious thing that can be done.
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@tsaukpaetra Actually unload stuff you're not using anymore?
https://i.imgur.com/Jp7h6Op.png
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@pie_flavor said in What even is performance:
Discourse:
https://i.imgur.com/hxWlmB0.png
NodeBB:
https://i.imgur.com/GX81ACF.pngProcess ID is smaller for than for , so it's better. The rest doesn't matter.
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It's far surpassed GPU processes themselves at this point.
https://i.imgur.com/hgyql4Z.png
And still going!
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@pie_flavor said in What even is performance:
@tsaukpaetra Actually unload stuff you're not using anymore?
https://i.imgur.com/Jp7h6Op.pngDon't load stuff you don't control at all!
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Good, it hasn't gone down in eight hours (and my computer is still getting lagspikes).
https://i.imgur.com/g3xZLGe.png
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@pie_flavor said in What even is performance:
Good, it hasn't gone down in eight hours (and my computer is still getting lagspikes).
https://i.imgur.com/g3xZLGe.pngIn other words: that memory has been leaked forever, shutup about it because it's never coming back unless you will do the needful.
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@tsaukpaetra said in What even is performance:
In other words: that memory has been leaked forever, shutup about it
: In other words: those CPU cycles have been wasted forever, shutup about it
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https://i.imgur.com/RrEzp2l.png
I've discovered I can inflate it much more rapidly if I switch back and forth between VPN and non-VPN on alternate threads.
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Also: Thread loading time is now upwards of six seconds. This must have been why I thought it was slow on mobile - I never closed the tab there either.
@julianlam Any idea as to the causes?
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@pie_flavor said in What even is performance:
I've discovered I can inflate it much more rapidly if I switch back and forth between VPN and non-VPN on alternate threads.
Tell me more about this... you're flipping your vpn on and off as you navigate between pages, and this causes memory usage to spike?
Are you seeing the reconnection alert whenever this happens?