Discussion of NodeBB Updates
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@ben_lubar said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
I asked for help on this one:
Empty promises.
What if I want only one of these two?
@Zerosquare said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
a self-tailored experience that enables you to socialize and establish friendships on a global level
That... sounds like a marketing blurb on some corporate web page.
Filed under: "but what do you actually do?!"
It sounds like it's a social network but actually open source / open protocol and built with the goal of interoperability instead of lock-in. I.e. how the internet actually should work.
I mean, just take messengers, there was a brief time when everything was basically built on XMPP and (supposedly) even facebook messenger supported it. Then you aren't at mercy of whoever provides this service and their fucking ads and tracking and lock-in. But now everyone is using their own proprietary, intentionally incompatible system again. The only thing they haven't managed to kill yet is email. You can use your gmail to mail people using hotmail without any problems.
It's a good goal, but due to the network effect I can't even get people to use a different messenger than whatsapp / facebook and, in general, people just don't care enough to make this viable.
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@topspin it's not due to people not caring, it's due to people actively ignoring it.
Twitter announced that they were going to make a distributed version of Twitter, and immediately a thousand people yelled "activitypub exists" and Jack said "we're going to see if we want to use the standard" which means "we're going to try to EEE our competitors who are already established way more than we are"
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@ben_lubar said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
@topspin it's not due to people not caring, it's due to people actively ignoring it.
With people not caring, I meant users.
Twitter announced that they were going to make a distributed version of Twitter, and immediately a thousand people yelled "activitypub exists" and Jack said "we're going to see if we want to use the standard" which means "we're going to try to EEE our competitors who are already established way more than we are"
Yes, exactly, because you can't create platform lock-in with open standards. Who would read their ads if there was an ad-free client instead.
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@topspin said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
With people not caring, I meant users.
Ah, then I guess you aren't aware of the mass migrations off of Twitter that have been happening repeatedly.
Right now, there's one from the Spanish-speaking world. The previous one was India, I think.
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@ben_lubar but are they migrating to something open or just to something different?
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@topspin said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
Who would read their ads if there was an ad-free client instead.
It does, in the form of "Promoted tweets".
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@ben_lubar said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
Twitter is crumbling—and many blame Twitter.
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@Vixen said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
@ben_lubar said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
Twitter is crumbling—and many blame Twitter.
for the record. i will never* resist a semi relevant song queue......
* well....... never say never and all that..... but it's pretty rare that i resist
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@topspin said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
@ben_lubar but are they migrating to something open or just to something different?
given that the hashtag this time around is #YoMigroAMastodon, I trust you can figure it out for yourself.
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@ben_lubar said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
Ah, then I guess you aren't aware of the mass migrations off of Twitter that have been happening repeatedly.
Neither's anyone else, apparently.
Active Twitter users over time. Twitter stopped publishing this metric in Q1 2019.
"monetizable daily active users (mDAU)".
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@loopback0 said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
@ben_lubar said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
Ah, then I guess you aren't aware of the mass migrations off of Twitter that have been happening repeatedly.
Neither's anyone else, apparently.
Here, try this one:
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@boomzilla said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
@ben_lubar said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
I asked for help on this one:
Is your computer broken? What's the deal with these miniature screen shots?
I bet they upload super quick on his Milwaukee PC internet.
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With this new update we've got a shitload of new emogis
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@hungrier said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
With this new update we've got a shitload of new emogis
I had to go look and see if you were copying my typo. :whew: Nope.
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@boomzilla said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
@hungrier said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
With this new update we've got a shitload of new emogis
I had to go look and see if you were copying my typo. :whew: Nope.
we've got a shitload of new perogies
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@ben_lubar PR request: Emotes renamed to perogies
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@ben_lubar said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
@boomzilla said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
@hungrier said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
With this new update we've got a shitload of new emogis
I had to go look and see if you were copying my typo. :whew: Nope.
we've got a shitload of new perogies
Damn. And here I am off carbs.
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Goddamn edit refresh!
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Dammit @ben_lubar. Your navigation icon fuckery combines with the custom default home page setting to make the site unusable.
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@boomzilla We might have taken this Discourse thing a bit too far...
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@boomzilla
It works on mobile ...
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@Luhmann Did you have a custom home page set that includes a slash?
https://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/27053/custom-homepage-broken/
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@hungrier said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
@boomzilla said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
navigation icon fuckery
? They look normal to me
When I had the custom homepage set they were dancing around (largely due to the Disco-502-OK stuff) and then clicking on the unread icon would sometimes(!) take me to what.thedailywtf.com, which was broken for me. I removed the custom homepage setting and now they work correctly.
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Attn: @ben_lubar
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@boomzilla said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
Attn: @ben_lubar
Careful with the backup though. If @Groaner's PhD level essay about that vidyagame gets lost...
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
Careful with the backup though.
Feel free to accidentally fix the issue where posts don't refresh after editing though.
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@loopback0 said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
Feel free to accidentally fix the issue where posts don't refresh after editing though.
There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Discourse is for and why it is here, it will
instantly disappear andbe replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
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For some reason my "last read" bookmark for this topic was some post from two years ago, instead of something sensible like the actual last post I read
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
@boomzilla said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
Attn: @ben_lubar
Careful with the backup though. If @Groaner's PhD level essay about that vidyagame gets lost...
I haven't even gotten to the really good shit yet. That entails explaining a few more systems, but we're getting there.
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@ben_lubar said in NodeBB Updates:
Just a quick reminder that bigotry is not tolerated on this site, and using the same tactics that neo-nazis try to use when I say this on other sites will work about as poorly here as it does there.
Could you be more specific please? I see that you've removed me as an administrator, which implies that I've done something here but I'm not sure what it is that I've done.
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@boomzilla said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
I'm not sure what it is that I've done.
Ah, feigning ignorance is just what a bigot might do.
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In other news, it seems we don't have the most recent emojis yet. I want to speak with @ben_lubar's manager.
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@JBert tactic successful.
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@ben_lubar said in NodeBB Updates:
Just a quick reminder that bigotry is not tolerated on this site, and using the same tactics that neo-nazis try to use when I say this on other sites will work about as poorly here as it does there.
Dick move, dude. I assume you can see my downvote anyway, but let it be known.
@boomzilla said in Discussion of NodeBB Updates:
Could you be more specific please? I see that you've removed me as an administrator, which implies that I've done something here but I'm not sure what it is that I've done.
Passive-aggressive comments that leave the people you're talking about in the dark are not cool. Am I to presume that everyone on the admin/staff team except bz was enlightened as to why this decision was made?
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I don't think we should have this sort of debate in the public area...
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Why am I seeing this thread in double? What happened to @Gąska and @HardwareGeek? Is this all part of the update?
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@aitap The "double NodeBB Updates thread" bug has been around for a while
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Speaking of bugs that have been around for a long time, posts still don't refresh after editing, except sometimes they do
e: Testing
e: Testing again (this time it should work, if past experience is any indicator)
So far it's at least consistent, lets see if the third time fails again -> no, this time it refreshed
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@hungrier post caching is hard
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@ben_lubar But is it as hard as post naming or post off-by-one?
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Must be a newly introduced bug
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@TimeBandit Since when are there edit notifications? Is that the bug?
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@ben_lubar said in NodeBB Updates:
Because there's been some confusion, I'd like to clarify that the only permanently banned user so far today was @Pakistaniescorts69.
How about you clarify why boomzilla had his admin status removed?
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@ben_lubar said in NodeBB Updates:
Just a quick reminder that bigotry is not tolerated on this site, and using the same tactics that neo-nazis try to use when I say this on other sites will work about as poorly here as it does there.
What fuckery has gone on?
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@hungrier only one I ever got so far
I wonder if it was because I had your post open when it happened
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@ben_lubar said in NodeBB Updates:
banned user so far today
So there will be more bannings, and that's only "until now", indicating intent for more.