911 reasons for which jimmies were rustled
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Our Germans were better than their Germans.
Continuing the discussion from Eins, Zwei, Zuffa!:
As to the point of Germany==Over-engineering....The cruise control on my 2001 VW Passat stopped working one day. Before a long road trip, I took it to the dealer who told me I'd have to pay over $100 USD just to run a diagnostic test to figure out what was broken. I objected, and he told me that the test covers 112 points of failure.
Who designs a cruise control system with 112 points of failure? Germans, apparently, for one. That road trip sucked.
Well... did the roadtrip suck because VW invented a cruise control system with 112 points of failure? Also, did your car work flawlessly until the day it broke, or were there other failures with it? And why do you buy a German car if you dislike Germany or at least hate German overengineering? Buy a nice solid American gas guzzler or a Japanese cyborg car instead. Nothing wrong with that.
Have a nice day.
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Cleanup on isle 4! Rustled jimmies found in isle 4! Janitor to isle 4 please!
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Some fool just gave me the power to edit topics!
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I bet at least 100 of these 112 points are complete bullshit made up on the spot just so you will pay more.
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112 is an emergency telephone number in Germany!
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If the diagnostic check covers the whole car then on a modern car (even a 2001 Passat) 112 things isn't an unreasonable amount of things for it to check.
It's certainly not, as the original post suggested, 112 points of failure specifically for the cruise control system.
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112 points of failure on a cruise-control system would be Jeff-tier bikeshedding.
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@aliceif said:
112 is an emergency telephone number in
Germanymost of Europeevery GSM phone!FTFY
FTFTFYFY
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@aliceif said:
112 is an emergency telephone number in
Germanymost of Europe!FTFY
And apparently on some cellular carriers in the US now, because you people couldn't just use 911 like Americans. Although all it does is an immediate redirect to 911.
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Via Snopes, one of those emails that go around (and a particularly idiotic line from same): "112 is an emergency number on your mobile that takes you straight to the police because 999 does not work if you have no signal".
Oh, it's magic, is it?
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And why do you buy a German car if you dislike Germany or at least hate German overengineering?
Well, he has new reasons to hate German over-engineering.
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Oh, it's magic, is it?
Not quite, but there's a grain of truth there in that 112 will connect via any tower your phone's radio can talk to, regardless of service provider. It still works if you haven't paid your bills, and even works without a SIM installed.
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My car needs an oil change.
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Now imagine if your car was a Passat, you'd have 113 problems instead of one.
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Not quite, but there's a grain of truth there in that 112 will connect via any tower your phone's radio can talk to, regardless of service provider.
Yeah, 911's the same. You're missing the point, though. That clearly stated 112 works even if you don't have signal. That sounds like something a person who believes in blinker fluid or map squares ("ensign, go down to Supply and request 7 map squares from the Quartermaster") would say.
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That clearly stated 112 works even if you don't have signal.
If you didn't know how GSM works, you might think the same. Most, if not all, phones will show you the signal level of the tower you're currently authenticated to, but there might be other carrier's towers around where you have enough signal to get a call through. So, from your perspective, the phone says "No signal", but the 911 / 112 call will still go through.
Conclusion: people need to lrn2English when dispensing advice. Also, knowing what the fuck they are talking about might help, too.
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So, from your perspective, the phone says "No signal", but the 911 / 112 call will still go through.
The quote stated 112 would work even when 999 wouldn't due to no signal. That would imply 999 doesn't work with any carrier, but 112 does. Come on, man[1], sometimes you just gotta admit a statement is so there's no point in trying to justify it!
[1] Also, apologies for the microaggression.
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That would imply 999 doesn't work with any carrier, but 112 does.
Does it? What is 999 anyway? I'm not telepathic, you know? Hell, I don't even know if local variants like 192 work on all phones here, I didn't really check.
If it does work on any carrier, fair enough, it's a complete not just a partial one.
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The quote stated 112 would work even when 999 wouldn't due to no signal. That would imply 999 doesn't work with any carrier, but 112 does. Come on, man[1], sometimes you just gotta admit a statement is so there's no point in trying to justify it!
The difference could be the programming of the phone. The phone and the provider both have to be programmed with the emergency number, in order to use the provider bypass. If 112 is programmed into the them, but not 999, then the former may work but not the latter in some situations.
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They can't magically create signal where none exists, but they can find cell towers that weren't providing you any signal until your phone went into emergency call mode.
It seems like a pretty reasonable way to say that.
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What is 999 anyway?
It's the Silverlight to the USA's 911, which would be Flash in this metaphor.
I don't know what that makes 112.
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The phone and the provider both have to be programmed with the emergency number, in order to use the provider bypass. If 112 is programmed into the them, but not 999, then the former may work but not the latter in some situations.
Yep. Most GSM phones know a range of emergency numbers, but if you're in some other country from the one where you bought your phone, the local emergency number might not be on its list. 112 is the GSM standard emergency number and will always be handled correctly.
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If 112 is programmed into the them, but not 999, then the former may work but not the latter in some situations.
999 is the UK's emergency number. 911 is the American one. What possible reason would an American or English cellular provider have to do such an insane thing? "We have an established emergency number, but let's not let that call to any tower in range even one that's not ours. Instead, we'll program that feature to work with some other country's emergency number!"
No, the entire idea is idiotic.
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They can't magically create signal where none exists, but they can find cell towers that weren't providing you any signal until your phone went into emergency call mode.
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Something that in theory is supposed to supersede both flash and silverlight?
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@flabdablet said:
HTML5?
<blink> I am interested in your chain of reasoning. </blink>
FTFY
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999 is the UK's emergency number. 911 is the American one. What possible reason would an American or English cellular provider have to do such an insane thing?
Because GSM phones have to work in both the UK and the USA. See:
112 is the GSM standard emergency number and will always be handled correctly.
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112 works in the UK too AFAIK. Even on non-mobiles.
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Something that in theory is supposed to supersede both flash and silverlight?
Oh, gotcha. I'd moved on from silly analogies to indignation that people were trying to justify using 112 and forgot what I was talking about.
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@FrostCat said:
999 is the UK's emergency number. 911 is the American one. What possible reason would an American or English cellular provider have to do such an insane thing?
Because GSM phones have to work in both the UK and the USA. See:
112 is the GSM standard emergency number and will always be handled correctly.
Wikipedia says ". In the United States, some carriers, including AT&T, will map the number 112 to its emergency number 9-1-1.". I believe Sprint does the same. Later in the article it says "The GSM mobile phone standard designates 112 as an emergency number, so it will work on GSM phones even in North America where GSM systems redirect emergency calls to 911"
But even then, you should probably use the defined emergency number for the country you're in and not hope some other one happens to work. Because that's what you're doing when you use 112 when it's not the official number for your country--trusting that the people who made your phone (Samsung, e.g., and pretend I put a link to a Tizen thread here) and your phone company ("trust" and "phone company" don't normally belong in the same sentence except when the sentence is semantically identical to "you should not trust your phone company except to be evil and/or incompetent") implement that correctly.
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Yeah, and in Europe and mostly the rest of the world they do use the metric system which is kinda witchcraft in comparison to the imperial system.
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the metric system is witchcraft
Geez, I was gonna give them furriners the day off from that flamewar. Thanks, buddy.
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Well, it is actually no flamewar... for the metric system is better than the imperial system. If one wants to adhere to engineering or scientific practice one has to admit that. Otherwise, fuck the engineer for his ego is in its way.
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the metric system is better than the imperial system
Right up until you need to make something 1/4 meter wide.
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what? thats 0.25m or 25cm. where's the difficulty there?
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Something that in theory is supposed to supersede both flash and silverlight?
112 is clearly HTML5 in this scenario.
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There is no flamewar, but with that dose of flamebait you're clearly trying to start one. Mind you, I agree metric is superior, but then I've used it all my life, so I'm probably biased.
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I've heard someone say, literal quote, "you can call 112 even if your phone has no battery" .
(you obviously can, but from another phone)
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what? thats 0.25m or 25cm. where's the difficulty there?
The Imperial equivalent is a nice, round "1 foot". No faffing around with decimal places.
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Right up until you need to make something 1/4
meter widethe length of the King's foot.FTFY
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I've heard someone say, literal quote, "you can call 112 even if your phone has no battery"
I hope you invited them to try it right then and there.
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The Imperial equivalent is a nice, round "1 foot". No faffing around with decimal places.
If you don't understand decimal places, you probably shouldn't be making anything anyway.
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That's probably true, irregardless[1] of your unit.
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Got it. That's an insider! ^_^. Interestingly enough, though in most countries of Europe there's no imperial system (not sure aboot Inglan), there's still countries that have a king. But they're assholes. I mean the kings, not the countries.
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That's probably true, irregardless[1] of your unit.
Talking about people's "units" is an obvious microaggression.
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there's still countries that have a king. But they're assholes. I mean the kings, not the countries.
I meant both.
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@brian_banana said:
what? thats 0.25m or 25cm. where's the difficulty there?
The Imperial equivalent is a nice, round "1 foot". No faffing around with decimal places.
What, exactly, is 1 foot ¼ of? Not a meter, a foot is ~30 cm. And I don't think it's ¼ of a yard either, because I'm pretty sure a foot is ⅓ of a yard.