In other news today...
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@loopback0 sadly that doesn't matter so much any more; we have been in the Chrome wilderness for a while where increasingly devs are only testing in Chrome for things and everything else is aberrant and thus ignored. Even testing in Edge is rare enough in the wild.
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
sadly that doesn't matter so much any more
Mozilla's opinion on it matters quite a lot in the context of whether it'll be implemented in Firefox.
@Arantor said in In other news today...:
we have been in the Chrome wilderness for a while where increasingly devs are only testing in Chrome for things and everything else is aberrant and thus ignored
This isn't going to make Mozilla more likely to implement it at least.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in In other news today...:
@DogsB How it's going to work, though? They can't store anything on client side, so they'll have to rely on browser fingerprinting. Which happens to be covered by GDPR.
I imagine they rely on the user being logged in. Apparently a lot of people do that voluntarily for some reason, and are even hostile to the notion of doing otherwise.
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@loopback0 this is true, but you can bet it’ll get shoved into websites and break them when Firefox doesn’t have it.
If this new tech becomes commonplace, Mozilla will have to implement at the very least a stub API for it or some kind of polyfill because it will be expected to be present and users who don’t, it’ll be assumed to be their fault for daring to tamper with the status quo.
Case in point, my pension provider’s website actively breaks when Google Tag Manager is blocked. It’s not that it just glitches, it’s functionally broken without GTM. Who runs around with GTM blocked? Fuck ‘em - and this tech will go the same way if there is a perception that it can be used to replace the dreaded cookie banner.
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@Arantor one of our sites somehow breaks when google analytics is blocked. Still not sure how they did it.
Still trying to convince them that tracking pixels on pages with PII is not a good look.
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This has been in the works for at least half a decade. Its not going to take off because the UI is god awful and most android apps don’t make the move to horizontal with much grace.
At the very least they would need a decent windowing system and even microsoft is fucking that up at the moment.
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
@loopback0 this is true, but you can bet it’ll get shoved into websites and break them when Firefox doesn’t have it.
Yeah but shitty developers break websites all the time.
I'm not sure how much time browser developers spend unbreaking them because the website developer didn't read the documentation.If this new tech becomes commonplace, Mozilla will have to implement at the very least a stub API for it or some kind of polyfill because it will be expected to be present and users who don’t, it’ll be assumed to be their fault for daring to tamper with the status quo.
They can implement it so that it always returns the user's topics as
Suck/It/Google
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Its a pity your entire industry spent two decades destroying it to drive people to your main site for advertising clicks.
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@cvi wow, that’s just evil:
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@kazitor said in In other news today...:
@Applied-Mediocrity said in In other news today...:
@DogsB How it's going to work, though? They can't store anything on client side, so they'll have to rely on browser fingerprinting. Which happens to be covered by GDPR.
I imagine they rely on the user being logged in. Apparently a lot of people do that voluntarily for some reason, and are even hostile to the notion of doing otherwise.
Doubtful. YouTube already recommends you the same things, etc., when you’re not logged in. Being logged in just makes it a bit more official, and legal.
But even if you’re not logged in, they still know exactly who you are.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
@kazitor said in In other news today...:
@Applied-Mediocrity said in In other news today...:
@DogsB How it's going to work, though? They can't store anything on client side, so they'll have to rely on browser fingerprinting. Which happens to be covered by GDPR.
I imagine they rely on the user being logged in. Apparently a lot of people do that voluntarily for some reason, and are even hostile to the notion of doing otherwise.
Doubtful. YouTube already recommends you the same things, etc., when you’re not logged in. Being logged in just makes it a bit more official, and legal.
But even if you’re not logged in, they still know exactly who you are.I have a work only one and thats staying on topic for the moment. Its still just tech, gaming, movies and books. They probably know its a SFW account.
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
Pixel 8 phones could include a feature that might totally disrupt the desktop and laptop space
I think those two words are doing a lot of work in that sentence.
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
This has been in the works for at least half a decade. Its not going to take off because the UI is god awful and most android apps don’t make the move to horizontal with much grace.
I'm pretty sure Samsung's phones (at least the mid-to-high-end ones) have had that capability for a long while. Probably more than half a decade.
Hypothetically, it's not that terrible of an idea. External display, keyboard and mouse is going to beat a shitty laptop (mind you, I think the best innovation with Microsoft's Surfaces was that you could fully detach the keyboard so it doesn't take up space, and get a real one instead).
The random restrictions and the crappy software are a problem. Not seeing either of those go away. (I also think laptops are strictly worse than a decent desktop, and making the device even smaller and less powerful isn't going to convince me.)
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Today: blocking search engine ads gives you a safer internet.
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
Apparently websites port scan local ports (using websockets?) for various (nefarious) reasons. Kinda not OK with that.
Scanning from the server or scanning via the client? Scanning from the server is just using sockets and has been something that could have been done forever, but scanning from the client would be dancing extremely close to being nefarious at best, as it would imply a leakier browser sandbox than everyone expects.
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@dkf from the client. And using malware-like behavior to both obfuscate the JS code to do so and to exfiltrate the results.
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
This has been in the works for at least half a decade.
It's essentially available in Android since 10,just without the shell. I can do as many mini windows as I want, the problem is my phone doesn't into the external displays so it's not that practical for productivity.
Support for secondary displays has been in the OS forever, just nothing seperates the presentation into things like the Dex interface for some reason. Not sure why it has to be super special like that...
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
This has been in the works for at least half a decade. Its not going to take off because the UI is god awful and most android apps don’t make the move to horizontal with much grace.
At the very least they would need a decent windowing system and even microsoft is fucking that up at the moment.
Google has slowly been working on convergence since it was show off. It's been available but hidden, in the OS for a few generations now.
And Ubuntu Touch still exist, and is kinda, being worked on. There are a few more Linux phone OSes that do convergence to varying degrees of success.
And the steam deck does convergence pretty well. It's got a fully fledged desktop OS, and a handheld interface and it doesn't eat memory like a motherfucker either.
My next phone will probably be a convergence one. But I'll also move off of google android for the next phone, so it's at the very least 3-4 years out.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
Pixel 8 phones could include a feature that might totally disrupt the desktop and laptop space
I think those two words are doing a lot of work in that sentence.
They're referring to different things, though, so they're not redundant.
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I wish people would stop saying convergence.
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
I wish people would stop saying convergence.
It kinda fits with the current web experience and common user though.
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I don't remember seeing this being talked about, and considering the current sub-thread...
Your phone doesn't need dialing and texting capabilities, right?
I can't imagine what possible reason Google would want to hide the Phone App code for...
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@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
I can't imagine what possible reason Google would want to hide the Phone App code for...
To make it more difficult to have 3rd party roms. They are slowly strangling the open source parts of the android platform, and they've been doing it for years. This is just another brick in the wall, and definitely not the last.
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@Carnage hasn’t it been “open source base, but you can do almost nothing without the closed source google services” for years?
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
@Carnage hasn’t it been “open source base, but you can do almost nothing without the closed source google services” for years?
Well, there has been plenty you needed to provide yourself, and what you need to provide yourself keeps increasing.
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
Even testing in Edge is rare enough in the wild.
Why bother, it's basically Chrome anyway
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@TimeBandit and that’s exactly the thinking that leads to people not testing… it’s got subtle differences that means things work on one and not the other.
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@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
I don't care how this fight plays out as long as somebody loses.
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@da-Doctah said in In other news today...:
@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
I don't care how this fight plays out as long as somebody loses.
The only ones losing are the readers of this thing that’ll never happen.
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If it can actually be produced at commercial scales, this could be a game-changer...
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Magnet-Free Electric Motor
Like, anything bigger than a cheap hobby motor?
opens the article
My god! It's an induction motor!
Filed under: Blinding innovation
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@Mason_Wheeler Hmm...
German automotive parts manufacturer MAHLE developed a new highly efficient magnet-free induction motor that is more environmentally friendly to produce, is cheaper to manufacture than comparable motors, and is maintenance-free, a press statement from the Stuttgart-based firm explains.
Nothing with moving parts is maintenance free. I wonder how they experience the smell of their own farts?
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@Carnage said in In other news today...:
@Mason_Wheeler Hmm...
German automotive parts manufacturer MAHLE developed a new highly efficient magnet-free induction motor that is more environmentally friendly to produce, is cheaper to manufacture than comparable motors, and is maintenance-free, a press statement from the Stuttgart-based firm explains.
Nothing with moving parts is maintenance free. I wonder how they experience the smell of their own farts?
Nothing bad could possibly happen here...
a wireless transmitter sends an alternating electric current into the rotor
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@dcon said in In other news today...:
@Carnage said in In other news today...:
@Mason_Wheeler Hmm...
German automotive parts manufacturer MAHLE developed a new highly efficient magnet-free induction motor that is more environmentally friendly to produce, is cheaper to manufacture than comparable motors, and is maintenance-free, a press statement from the Stuttgart-based firm explains.
Nothing with moving parts is maintenance free. I wonder how they experience the smell of their own farts?
Nothing bad could possibly happen here...
a wireless transmitter sends an alternating electric current into the rotor
Yeah, I was thinking about commenting on that too... This sounds like marketing got a bit excited.
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@Carnage In some ways it would be good... No more police high speed chases - they just remotely disrupt wireless signals (and nothing bad could possibly happen from that either...)
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And it’s wear-free because it’s air-gapped or something.
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@dcon said in In other news today...:
a wireless transmitter sends an alternating electric current into the rotor
They'd better stay away from my induction stove while I am cooking.
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@Carnage said in In other news today...:
Nothing with moving parts is maintenance free. I wonder how they experience the smell of their own farts?
For the confirmation of their prediction, they used highly complicated software, developed by the team involved in Clean Diesel.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
I don't remember seeing this being talked about, and considering the current sub-thread...
Your phone doesn't need dialing and texting capabilities, right?
I can't imagine what possible reason Google would want to hide the Phone App code for...
Guess where more encrypted blobs are going to show up.
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@Mason_Wheeler said in In other news today...:
If it can actually be produced at commercial scales, this could be a game-changer...
I don't see any actual innovation mentioned in the article. What they describe is literally how all large electric motors work, described with more buzzwords.
Though, if current electric
vehiclescars (train engines are also vehicles and they've been using induction motors since basically the beginning) use permanent-magnet motors, maybe they actually managed to overcome some disadvantage of the induction motors that was the reason for that. But I don't see what that disadvantage would be and the article does not seem to say.
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@Bulb said in In other news today...:
But I don't see what that disadvantage would be
Well, I probably do. They can be fed DC (from a battery) directly, with the commutator providing the necessary inversion (since change in current is needed to create magnetic field), while induction motors need a separate inverter. And a better efficiency at start because the magnetic field is already there while an induction motor must build it up before it starts turning.
… nothing in the article on how they improved it anyway.
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@Carnage said in In other news today...:
Nothing with moving parts is maintenance free.
Maybe they mean "maintenance-free" in the sense that "by the time it does need maintenance you would have already traded it in for a newer model anyway"? You are going to buy the newer model, aren't you?
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@Watson said in In other news today...:
@Carnage said in In other news today...:
Nothing with moving parts is maintenance free.
Maybe they mean "maintenance-free" in the sense that "by the time it does need maintenance you would have already traded it in for a newer model anyway"? You are going to buy the newer model, aren't you?
Yeah, last year's model is so ... last year.
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Maybe Elon has a chance
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The cloud is so much better
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Hi Apple, I am writing you to inform that we would like our shit back.
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@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
Microsoft is aware of the issue that is preventing Outlook users on the web from searching their emails
So the Outlook Web experience finally matches the Outlook desktop experience?