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@DogsB What's wrong with these people? Free chicken just walking into town. Eat them!
Solutions involving nets, pellet guns, birth control and drug-laden bread crumbs are all being considered.
How about just declaring open season for anyone who wants to bag a chicken?
( Before anyone asks, Hawaii has very restrictive gun laws for being a part of U.S., so the above mentioned open season may have to be done with
crossbows. )Edit: Tuns out they've also banned crossbows.
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
@DogsB What's wrong with these people? Free chicken just walking into town. Eat them!
Solutions involving nets, pellet guns, birth control and drug-laden bread crumbs are all being considered.
How about just declaring open season for anyone who wants to bag a chicken?
Raw chicken you need to kill, deplume and disembowel (easily a half day work, especially for someone not skilled in this) only to find out that the meat is usable only for a crappy soup, because it's a adult and feral chicken? Hard pass.
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in In other news today...:
Raw chicken you need to kill, deplume and disembowel (easily a half day work, especially for someone not skilled in this)
It's a fowl job
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@Kamil-Podlesak When grocery prices are up as much as they are? And unemployment at the level it's at? I bet there'd be takers. And it's a rather cheap bet to take, since the upfront cost to the government for trying this is zero.
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in In other news today...:
meat is usable only for a crappy soup, because it's a adult and feral chicken
Hold up. I've got to straighten this out, too. Properly processed game meat can be just as good as farm-grown. The secret is to hang it for a few days before you freeze or eat it.
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in In other news today...:
kill, deplume and disembowel (easily a half day work, especially for someone not skilled in this)
Meh. Speaking from experience, when you know what you're doing it takes at most a couple of hours. I guess that if you were to do that regularly and with a bit of planning and organisation, you could probably do the whole thing in less than an hour.
feral chicken
For me that's the main reason that whole idea wouldn't be worth doing. Those chickens are likely tiny compared to poultry farms ones, and even if you manage to prepare them in an hour of two, it's hardly worth it if they barely feed one person. Again from experience, even a chicken from a egg-laying variety (so much larger than a small wild one, but not a meat variety either) doesn't have that much meat under all those feathers.
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Or should that better go to the "Things that remind you ... " threads?
Anyways:
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsif.2022.0497
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@BernieTheBernie The article even says
Live avian predators can be an effective deterrent, because potential prey will not habituate to them
Well, they tested this for 34 days, which shows birds won't habituate to this quickly, but I suspect they still will eventually—because they reportedly habituate even to an actual falcon if the falconer does not let it hunt for real.
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@BernieTheBernie said in In other news today...:
Or should that better go to the "Things that remind you ... " threads?
Anyways:
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsif.2022.0497So, you're telling me that the whole "birds aren't real" thing was true, as well?
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this gets more bizarre and not the least bit erotic.
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@remi said in In other news today...:
@Kamil-Podlesak said in In other news today...:
kill, deplume and disembowel (easily a half day work, especially for someone not skilled in this)
Meh. Speaking from experience, when you know what you're doing it takes at most a couple of hours. I guess that if you were to do that regularly and with a bit of planning and organisation, you could probably do the whole thing in less than an hour.
Yes, if you know what you're doing. Which most people of Honolulu, I dare to say, don't. Sure, they could learn, but...
feral chicken
For me that's the main reason that whole idea wouldn't be worth doing. Those chickens are likely tiny compared to poultry farms ones, and even if you manage to prepare them in an hour of two, it's hardly worth it if they barely feed one person. Again from experience, even a chicken from a egg-laying variety (so much larger than a small wild one, but not a meat variety either) doesn't have that much meat under all those feathers.
Well, as I understand it, they are not actually wild birds, they are actually just a normal commercial breed living in the wild. Which means that they are probably smaller then usual because if having less food (but it depends on the environment), but: their meat is quite hard, sinewy and not really tasty. There is a good reason why the chicken meat is actually from chicken, ie the young ones ("teenagers at best").
@acrow said in In other news today...:
@Kamil-Podlesak said in In other news today...:
meat is usable only for a crappy soup, because it's a adult and feral chicken
Hold up. I've got to straighten this out, too. Properly processed game meat can be just as good as farm-grown. The secret is to hang it for a few days before you freeze or eat it.
See above: they are not game, they are domesticated poultry and most likely a modern (19th/20th century) overbred ones. If the usual game meat treatment worked, people would do that. I have, however, never heard about anything like that; adult hens/roosters are, of course, eaten, but almost exclusively in a soups or some special recipes (ok, rooster on a wine is a thing...).
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in In other news today...:
@acrow said in In other news today...:
@DogsB What's wrong with these people? Free chicken just walking into town. Eat them!
Solutions involving nets, pellet guns, birth control and drug-laden bread crumbs are all being considered.
How about just declaring open season for anyone who wants to bag a chicken?
Raw chicken you need to kill, deplume and disembowel (easily a half day work, especially for someone not skilled in this) only to find out that the meat is usable only for a crappy soup, because it's a adult and feral chicken? Hard pass.
First time maybe, I would guess 2-3 hrs (that includes watching the various youtube videos on how to do it). The meat itself should be fine. It will likely taste a little different than you are used to from the store and the quantity of meat will be lower but the quality should* be good.
*I am assuming that they are all reasonably healthy as they are apparently breeding rapidly, so their diets are adequate.
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@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
The meat itself should be fine.
Still might want to stew/soup it. That's OK though. Chicken stew is excellent. So too is chicken soup.
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in In other news today...:
@acrow said in In other news today...:
@Kamil-Podlesak said in In other news today...:
meat is usable only for a crappy soup, because it's a adult and feral chicken
Hold up. I've got to straighten this out, too. Properly processed game meat can be just as good as farm-grown. The secret is to hang it for a few days before you freeze or eat it.
See above: they are not game, they are domesticated poultry and most likely a modern (19th/20th century) overbred ones.
They're still normal animals, and the hanging treatment works on all of them. It's even done on some pricier farm-grown meat. From the article I linked:
These things happen over relatively long periods of time in a very tightly controlled environment in the restaurant industry. Combine those factors with the storage space and man hours needed to maintain a non-stop flow of ribeyes, and it begins to make sense why you’ll pay top dollar for a prime cut of beef dry-aged for 28 days. Luckily for hunters, this process is one that can be closely approximated in the field or at home.
The main obstacle for Honolulu residents would be the outside temperature; they'd need a climate-controlled space.
If the usual game meat treatment worked, people would do that. I have, however, never heard about anything like that; adult hens/roosters are, of course, eaten, but almost exclusively in a soups or some special recipes (ok, rooster on a wine is a thing...).
People would do it more if they'd ever heard of it, I imagine. Modern "common sense" is to eat all meat as fresh as possible, or to immediately freeze it if you want to keep something for later. But that's because people of today have too little contact with the production of their food.
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Wow. You know what software use to have almost instantious chat switching? Lotus notes.
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
Wow. You know what software use to have almost instantious chat switching? Lotus notes.
Alright blakey.
Teams has never been noticeably slow for me. Switching chats, groups etc has always been basically instant. It joins meetings way faster than Webex ever did or does.
Switching tenants is a pain but I don't have to do that anymore.
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@loopback0 um, it’s Microsoft that’s boasting it’s 30% faster. So if something that should be measured in microseconds gets an article for 30% performance improvements, that tells me somewhere there’s more of a performance problem than what you say.
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@topspin sure but if it's not noticeable to the typical user does it matter either way?
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
@topspin sure but if it's not noticeable to the typical user
Is it though? The mere existence of this suggests otherwise.
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@topspin I've not noticed and I'm no less a typical Teams user than most
I'm not saying Teams is perfect, I've just not noticed it being slow in the areas they claim to have since improved.
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@loopback0 I have no idea if it's actually noticeable or not, just challenging the assertion.
There's a difference between it not being noticeable for some (typical) users and it not being noticeable for any (typical) users. Especially considering that MS shit isn't exactly known for behaving consistently for different users.
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This is from about a week and a half ago, and it's not exactly a not news item, so I didn't hear about it until today.
Read pages of legalese, watch a YouTube lawyer comment on it, or TL;DW, your choice. (The second link is
the court's actual opinionan opinion from an earlier round in the back-and-forth between various levels of appellate courts (Where's the full opinion in the latest decision? I can't find it.); the first link is one judge's opinion that concurs with the court's majority but gives a fuller presentation of the excluded evidence and additional rationale based on that additional information. The third is the YT video, obviously.)TL;DW:
William Rogers was convicted of residential burglary and aggravated assault. Due to the specific burglary charge filed against him, if the assault didn't happen, he wouldn't be guilty of the burglary, either. (He also wouldn't be guilty of the burglary if he had permission to be in the house.) The aggravated assault consisted of shooting a man named David Watson in Watson's house.The prosecution filed a motion in limine (at the threshold — motions filed at the very beginning of a trial as to how the trial should be conducted, what evidence should be admitted, etc.) requesting that certain testimony be excluded. Normally, the judge would ask the defense if they were planning to introduce any such testimony and whether they had any evidence to support it. And normally, if it's even somewhat plausible, the judge should allow the accused to offer it in his defense. (Or even if it's not plausible. In the video commentary, the internet lawyer opines that if the accused wants to claim space aliens did it, the judge should say, there's not a chance the jury's going to believe it, but if you want to make a fool of yourself, go right ahead.) However, in this case, the judge simply said, ok, you can't talk about that, not during jury selection, not during open remarks, not during direct examination, not during cross examination, not during closing statements, never; you can't say anything that might hint at the possibility.
What was this evidence? Self-defense (or any other defense that he was justified in doing what he did).
According to Rogers' account of the events, Rogers was having a long-running affair with Watson's wife, Sandra. This had been going on for almost two years. They'd exchanged 70000 text message, 187 on the day of the incident, and shared a bank account. He had been to their house on a number of previous occasions, and had a key and the alarm code to the Watsons' house (and vice versa). From time to time he went to the house alone, at Sandra's request, to feed the cats. (He was able to describe the location and condition of the cat bowls and food in some detail, which is not something I'd expect a typical burglar to notice.) Also, Watson had recently discovered the affair, and Sandra was afraid that he would kill her cats, and she asked multiple times that Rogers to check on their condition. That is what he was doing on the day of the incident, when David Watson returned home unexpectedly.
Rogers saw Watson arrive and tried to leave via the back door but was (for some reason I don't know) unable to open it. He retreated into a room that Sandra called her "sanctuary room" and tried to exit through a window she called her "escape route", but the window was stuck, and he couldn't fit through it. He then hid in a closet. (Bad movie trope, right?) This closet had Watson's gun safe, which was locked, but there was a loaded handgun sitting on top of the safe. Watson opened the closet door, holding a hunting knife, waving it threateningly at Rogers, and took a step into the closet. At this point Rogers picked up the gun. Watson tried to grab the gun. There was a scuffle, and the gun discharged, hitting Watson.
Watson testified that there was a scuffle during which he was shot, but otherwise his account bears little semblance to Rogers'.
Is it true? Would a jury have believed it? Should he have been allowed to tell the jury and let them decide? Absolutely. It's reasonably plausible, and the existence of the text messages and bank account would have supported at least that part of his story. It would also have been supported by the testimony of Sandra's adult daughter, if she had been allowed to testify. (She accused her mother of orchestrating the confrontation between Watson and Rogers.)
These events occurred in early 2013. The case has been bouncing back and forth between the trial court and appellate courts for almost 9 years. Finally, about a week and a half ago, the appellate court ruled that the trial court erred in preventing Rogers from making the claim of self-defense and ordered a new trial.
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
@topspin I've not noticed and I'm no less a typical Teams user than most
I'm not saying Teams is perfect, I've just not noticed it being slow in the areas they claim to have since improved.
I'm going to assume that your computer has 4 or more processor cores. That may be hiding the slowness from you.
I got a new laptop at work this year. Core count rose from 2 to 8. Time required for starting Atmel Studio (based on Visual Studio) went down from 15 minutes to 30 seconds.
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
Time required for starting Atmel Studio (based on Visual Studio) went down from 15 minutes to 30 seconds.
15 minutes to open a program is
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@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
15 minutes to open a program is
Chrome opening all my tabs. That's one reason I don't use Chrome on desktop any more.
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
I'm going to assume that your computer has 4 or more processor cores. That may be hiding the slowness from you.
I'm on a 12th gen i7 desktop at work. Teams feels sluggish compared to Discord on it. Same at home (minus the 12th gen i7 ). Hell, Teams manages to occasionally stutter when typing/navigating through text in the input field.
Granted, I'm running both in Chromium, rather than with their native clients. Though with Edge being Chromium-based, I would have guessed they would test it there more.
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Who had meteorites on their 2022 bingo card?
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@Dragoon Yeah my awesome RCX 1.0 was forever lost to the sands of time. Been ages since I thought about it...
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
open season may have to be done
A monthly running-of-the-cocks would probably be a welcome event!
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@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
@acrow said in In other news today...:
Time required for starting Atmel Studio (based on Visual Studio) went down from 15 minutes to 30 seconds.
15 minutes to open a program is
The program itself opens in a handful of seconds. But then it starts processing something in the background and things are slideshow-y until it finishes. I count "start-up time" from the moment of clicking the icon to the moment I can actually start doing work.
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
But then it starts processing something in the background and things are slideshow-y until it finishes.
I know this one! It uses all your available cores to generate several GB of
garbagevery important files in a hidden folder. That aren't removed by a full clean or ... like ever (unless you go in there manually).
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@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
@acrow said in In other news today...:
Time required for starting Atmel Studio (based on Visual Studio) went down from 15 minutes to 30 seconds.
15 minutes to open a program is
Not so bad either.
KevinConfig
takes 40 minutes to open, and 20 minutes to close. That's really high performance.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
Meteorite Starts House Fire
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
Who had meteorites on their 2022 bingo card?
They're an every year thing.
Meteorites starting fires are more unusual.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
shared a bank account
Who shares a bank account with their affair?! Seriously?!?
(Other than that it's blindingly obvious he didn't get a fair trial, no matter if he's guilty or not.)
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@BernieTheBernie said in In other news today...:
@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
@acrow said in In other news today...:
Time required for starting Atmel Studio (based on Visual Studio) went down from 15 minutes to 30 seconds.
15 minutes to open a program is
Not so bad either.
KevinConfig
takes 40 minutes to open, and 20 minutes to close. That's really high performance.Can you config him to not do that?
Filed under: Scarfolk
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@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
First time maybe, I would guess 2-3 hrs (that includes watching the various youtube videos on how to do it).
Maybe a bit more depending on how confident you are, but yeah, max half a day the first time and much less afterwards. Still, I would agree (in this Hawaiian scenario) that for most people this is more work than it's really worth (given the amount/quality of resulting meat, vs. just buying a chicken ready to cook).
The meat itself should be fine.
Pro-tip: don't forget to properly remove the gallbladder and other internal parts, otherwise the meat definitely will not be fine.
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@remi said in In other news today...:
for most people
That's the thing. Honolulu has a population of 345,000, (and an unemployment of 3.3%, ) according to Google.
Some 10,000 Hawaiians have a hunting license. And to catch actual wild game, you'd have to go all the way to the forests and wastelands. If the fields here had open-season chickens just walking about, I'd be keeping a rifle in the car on my commutes.
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First the chickens and now the parrots!
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
Wow. You know what software use to have almost instantious chat switching? Lotus notes.
Did we finally find something that lotus notes was good at?
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@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
Wow. You know what software use to have almost instantious chat switching? Lotus notes.
Did we finally find something that lotus notes was good at?
It crashed so frequently I had a plausible reason for ignoring attempts to contact me?
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
@DogsB What's wrong with these people? Free chicken just walking into town. Eat them!
Solutions involving nets, pellet guns, birth control and drug-laden bread crumbs are all being considered.
How about just declaring open season for anyone who wants to bag a chicken?
( Before anyone asks, Hawaii has very restrictive gun laws for being a part of U.S., so the above mentioned open season may have to be done with
crossbows. )Edit: Tuns out they've also banned crossbows.
Well, that's take a care of that.
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
uses all your available cores to generate several GB of garbage
Huh, that's what my Bash hexagram thrower does for :
Great Power
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@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
Wow. You know what software use to have almost instantious chat switching? Lotus notes.
Did we finally find something that lotus notes was good at?
Yes. They called it CouchDb.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
Who had meteorites on their 2022 bingo card?
https://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/24143/in-other-news-today-the-garage-edition/9537
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