WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else
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In all this time you never tried right-clicking?
No. It never occurred to me.
Generally, don't bother doing that. When racepro said it sorts itself out, zsxie meant it.
Yeah...I'd forgotten how common that sort of stuff was on Windows. I'm going to go do some stuff now...really.
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I don't run anything maximized both ways.
Settings looks ridiculous maximized anyway. Acres of white space around (IIRC) 9 icons.
It was a PITA to drag it over to the other monitor so I could be doing stuff here in my browser. It's horrible.
Yes, click, drag down half an inch, drag right 2 inches, drag up half an inch, release is clearly @miketheliar horrible, boomzirat.
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Oh, I get that; it sorts itself out eventually. It tends to be larger updates that do it.
Me too. It'll usually just jump right into 'installing...'
Right-click on the Start button and choose Control Panel from the popup.
Win10 retains this. Yea!
But...
Guess what? In Win10, Control Panel's gradually being replaced with a windowed-Metro app.
Boo! (But at least it's windowed)
I don't run anything maximized both ways. That just makes stuff difficult to read or wastes a lot of space.
That. Besides, I'm usually doing something that requires interaction between multiple programs. Though, that said, I do run Visual Studio full screen on the 2nd monitor. And the app runs in the primary (not full).
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It's true, using Win8 makes me feel like him fighting with git.
Dude, get over it already.
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Win10 retains this. Yea!
Since you mentioned this, I just checked, and Windows Update is gone from the Control Panel. Truth be told, I hadn't even discovered how to get to CP yet in the most recent builds.
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click, drag down half an inch, drag right 2 inches, drag up half an inch, release
Now just draw some legs and you have , which is exactly what discoverability in Win8 feels like.
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Since you mentioned this, I just checked, and Windows Update is gone from the Control Panel. Truth be told, I hadn't even discovered how to get to CP yet in the most recent builds.
Hence, my:
But...
Tho reading that (the quote I included), I realized that I didn't expound on that point enough...
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Now just draw some legs and you have , which is exactly what discoverability in Win8 feels like.
Still better than discoverability in git...
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Now just draw some legs and you have , which is exactly what discoverability in Win8 feels like.
That's what Google is for: crowdsourcing discoverability.
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That's what Google is for: crowdsourcing discoverability.
And us here... For all our ing, there's an amazing amount of tidbits in here (the forum, not the thread)
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@FrostCat said:
That's what Google is for: crowdsourcing discoverability.
And us here... For all our ing, there's an amazing amount of tidbits in here (the forum, not the thread)
They might as well be hidden, based on the quality of Discosearch.
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Dude, get over it already.
Every time I come back, I'm sure it'll be fine, but then it just frustrates me. It seems to have figured is ass out from a hole in the ground and is actually downloading now.
Still better than discoverability in git...
Maybe. At least with git I know I'm going to be reading documentation. There's also tab complete, which helps.
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It seems to have figured is ass out from a hole in the ground and is actually downloading now.
Told you it'd sort itself out ;)
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Of course, previously, I'd selected some optional stuff to install. It's conveniently forgotten those.
I should really apologize for ranting at MS for not making their update system work with 3rd parties. Say what you will about the Java installer / updater giving you the Ask toolbar, at least it goddamn does something.
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Every time I come back, I'm sure it'll be fine, but then it just frustrates me.
If you use it long enough, the rough edges of your frustration will be dulled via a sense of inevitability. Or you could keep tilting at windmills, I guess, if that's your bag.
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It's conveniently forgotten those.
On the bright side, once it reboots, you can go back in and only the optional stuff should be there, and it should install without further hubbub.
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If you use it long enough, the rough edges of your frustration will be dulled via a sense of inevitability
No doubt. I've just been fortunate enough that I don't use it every day, so I haven't gotten used to the suck (as Nancy Pelosi once said) as soon as you.
On the bright side, once it reboots, you can go back in and only the optional stuff should be there, and it should install without further hubbub.
I says it's ready to reboot....so we'll find out.
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March 1st was the last time you ran Windows Update, IIRC? There's probably be al least one more round of mandatory updates.
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March 1st was the last time you ran Windows Update, IIRC? There's probably be al least one more round of mandatory updates.
If he had 90 already he's probably caught up, but I guess he'll find out.
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Discosearch
What's that? :lol:
When I see a TIL-thing, I just stick it in a note (in something that can search!)
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I've just been fortunate enough that I don't use it every day, so I haven't gotten used to the suck (as Nancy Pelosi once said) as soon as you.
Warts aside, I prefer it to 7. But I don't hate on the flatter look, myself, either.
If Start bothers you too much, get a menu replacement. I find that rearranging the icons to put the most-commonly used ones all the way to the left (and putting Desktop top leftmost) gets me through the day.
That and the occasional nip of vodka, that is.
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There's also tab complete, which helps
Oh fuck. TIL. Time to kill cmd and start using msysgit's shell...
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On the bright side, once it reboots, you can go back in and only the optional stuff should be there, and it should install without further hubbub.
But some of those optional ones will also require a reboot. sigh. (My habit after installing updates is always to go back and scan again. Repeat until no more show up.)
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I'm at the point where I maybe have one problem a year with a stuck update, so I got tired of manually managing it and just turned autoupdate on. You always get at least a day or two before it reboots on you, and you can see how long from the start screen, so you can reboot on your own schedule.
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If he had 90 already he's probably caught up, but I guess he'll find out.
It was actually 75 or 76. 90 was with the optional stuff. I'd forgotten that this process was like waiting for the Return of the King [movie] to end.
Restart!..."Restarting" [spinner for several minutes]...Working on Updates, don't turn your computer off!..
Ah...finally, it restarted....shit...Working on updates....
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If Start bothers you too much, get a menu replacement.
Eh...I deal with it so little, it's really not worth that bother.
Hmm...still 2 important updates. Here we go again...
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Ah...finally, it restarted....shit...Working on updates....
Oh yes, "updating" on both sides of the reboot.
Buy or build yourself a new computer with UEFI and a nice fast CPU, and get that crap over with faster. My home PC reboots in the absence of updates in some small number of seconds that feels like less than ten.
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I'm at the point where I maybe have one problem a year with a stuck update, so I got tired of manually managing it and just turned autoupdate on.
If I worked in Windows regularly I'd have it go automatically. It's rare that I boot into it for anything other than updating software.
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it's really not worth that bother.
Ah, so the blakeyranting above was unjustified. You're really not helping the case that you're not him.
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If he had 90 already he's probably caught up, but I guess he'll find out.
Haven't updated Windows much, huh? With that many backlogged, he's guaranteed that rinse/repeat will require a minimum of 2 cycles. Likely 3.
Warts aside, I prefer it to 7.
But I don't hate on the flatter look, myself, either.
I don't really like, but I don't hate either.
so I got tired of manually managing it and just turned autoupdate on
I got in the habit of manual because I put my laptop to sleep at night. And I don't want auto-update kicking when I'm doing something - so I like to manually control.
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If I worked in Windows regularly I'd have it go automatically.
*blink* That's actually all the MORE reason to do it, so you don't forget.
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Haven't updated Windows much, huh?
YMBNH.
Also as I said I just let Windows manage it because I just don't have time. If it asks to reboot, I do it more or less as soon as is convenient.
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Buy or build yourself a new computer with UEFI and a nice fast CPU, and get that crap over with faster.
I have both of those. I am on a mechanical hard drive, but apt-get is much less painful on the same system.
Ah, so the blakeyranting above was unjustified.
If you say so. It's all true.
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@boomzilla said:
If I worked in Windows regularly I'd have it go automatically.
*blink* That's actually all the MORE reason to do it, so you don't forget.
Actually, as I pointed out above, it is set up to update automatically. Apparently that doesn't work when Windows isn't running. TYL
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I got in the habit of manual because I put my laptop to sleep at night.
I do that with my desktop.
And I don't want auto-update kicking when I'm doing something - so I like to manually control.
I don't get the fuss over this. It gives you an entire day or sometimes two's worth of warning. That's plenty of time for you to manually manage when it reboots. Let it update on its own schedule, and then reboot at the next time when you can take a coffee break.
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Forgotten how to download again...
And apparently forgot that it just ran a batch of updates.
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Apparently that doesn't work when Windows isn't running.
Well, no, of course not. Is this a work or home machine? You could always boot into Windows once a month or so and leave it on overnight, at which point it should catch itself up by morning. If you're booting it just for a specific task and then turning it immediately off, yeah, it'll never catch up on its own, obviously.
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I don't get the fuss over this. It gives you an entire day or sometimes two's worth of warning. That's plenty of time for you to manually manage when it reboots. Let it update on its own schedule, and then reboot at the next time when you can take a coffee break.
Sometimes my job involves installers (not as much now, thankfully!). Trying to run an install when WU is running... well, it doesn't work.
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The fuck?
The uploaded image shows, but the img tag peeks out.
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Sometimes my job involves installers (not as much now, thankfully!). Trying to run an install when WU is running... well, it doesn't work.
True. That's somewhat of an argument for doing that in VMs, though.
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The uploaded image shows, but the img tag peeks out.
Maybe you got some kind of reverse-trigraph going on in there.
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Trying to run an install when WU is running... well, it doesn't work.
For MSI installers, that is the case; WU uses MSI. NSIS, InstallShield, etc., they should work regardless.
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Doesn't IS use MSI too?
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And apparently forgot that it just ran a batch of updates.
The problem is the dependency chain. Windows didn't know it needed those extra 16 when it did the first scan. (hence my rinse/repeat cycle) Arguably it should, but...
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Maybe you got some kind of reverse-trigraph going on in there.
Or there's a stray newline
@FrostCat said:Doesn't IS use MSI too?
Never used to; it's been around longer than MSI. Maybe it's changed though.
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The problem is the dependency chain. Windows didn't know it needed those extra 16 when it did the first scan.
It didn't. But before I hit cancel, I had manually selected them. There's no dependency chain problem, just a poorly written program.
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True. That's somewhat of an argument for doing that in VMs, though.
Oh, I do! :) (but sometimes you need to do it on the metal too)
And the WU issue is still the same in the VM...
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Or there's a stray newline
IE dev tools shows a (bogus?) </img> tag. Maybe that's related?
ETA: Oh, but look what Chrome says:
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Doesn't IS use MSI too?
Yes. Or at least it can. When I worked at VMware, our IS installers did. (We were converting to Wix-generated MSI when I left)