The bad jokes topic 🐴🍹👨
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@HardwareGeek said in The bad jokes topic 🐴🍹👨:
What can I do? It's a very simple language, but for some reason foreigners keep mixing entirely unrelated words. It's like the difference between a long and short wovel, or a long and short consonant, mean nothing to them.
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@acrow They'll be confusing a man and a moon next.
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@acrow said in The bad jokes topic 🐴🍹👨:
or a long and short consonant
Long vowels are normal to me (and do make a difference in Czech), but I can't imagine how to pronounce most consonants long (unless it's restricted to s and z).
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@Bulb Most consonants are spoken by contorting your tongue to a specific tensioned position, and then letting it go. A long consonant is spoken by keeping the tension in place longer, thereby controlling the timing from the start of the consonant to the start of the next letter you pronunce after that. Rhythm is important.
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Long Rs go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
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@Bulb For example, you'd pronunce the T in "Lettee" by pressing your tongue to the top and front of your mouth, I think, and then bringing it inwards and down while exhaling rapidly. For a long T, you just hold the press longer.
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@acrow said in The bad jokes topic 🐴🍹👨:
@Bulb For example, you'd pronunce the T in "Lettee" by pressing your tongue to the top and front of your mouth, I think, and then bringing it inwards and down while exhaling rapidly. For a long T, you just hold the press longer.
But during the "press" phase, you're not producing any sound (I think... I'm no expert either...)? The sound is only made when you move your tongue (), so how does holding the press longer makes any difference? Or is it more like some sort of pause in the rhythm of your speech?
Also:
It's a very simple language
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@remi said in The bad jokes topic 🐴🍹👨:
Or is it more like some sort of pause in the rhythm of your speech?
I think he already answered that:
@acrow said in The bad jokes topic 🐴🍹👨:
Rhythm is important.
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@Bulb said in The bad jokes topic 🐴🍹👨:
@acrow said in The bad jokes topic 🐴🍹👨:
Rhythm is important.
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@Bulb That's what I'm guessing (and why I mentioned it), but I'm wondering if this is what he meant...?
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@acrow said in The bad jokes topic 🐴🍹👨:
What can I do? It's a very simple language
Goddam 15 of them. Ok, no genders and articles, but I still wouldn't call it simple. Unless you can attest your noun cases are governed by simple rules without (too many) exceptions (I'm to actually read the article I linked, obviously).
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@acrow said in The bad jokes topic 🐴🍹👨:
@HardwareGeek said in The bad jokes topic 🐴🍹👨:
What can I do? It's a very simple language, but for some reason foreigners keep mixing entirely unrelated words. It's like the difference between a long and short wovel, or a long and short consonant, mean nothing to them.
"Simple". Right. The language with 12 declinations and 30 conjugations is "simple".
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@Applied-Mediocrity It's just using suffixes instead of some prepositions, and for each case the same suffix (except for insertion of a vowel depending on the stem ending) is used for all words. That's pretty simple. Compare Czech (my native language), which has seven grammatical cases, but nouns are classified in fourteen paradigms that define which suffix is used for which case—plus a bunch of additional exceptions.
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@remi said in The bad jokes topic 🐴🍹👨:
The sound is only made when you move your tongue (), so how does holding the press longer makes any difference? Or is it more like some sort of pause in the rhythm of your speech?
A little bit of both. Which side of the pause the sound is produced on matters with the T. Holding tension for a beat is actually the only way to properly rhythm it. If you try to stop for a moment and then start forming the T, it sounds... botched.
Also, with some consonants, you're making sound throughout. Consider e.g. M and N, where this is the case. Conversely, with the long T, it's important that the previous letter stops sounding, completely, and the tensioning of your tongue also helps here.
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@acrow said in The bad jokes topic 🐴🍹👨:
A little bit of both. Which side of the pause the sound is produced on matters with the T. Holding tension for a beat is actually the only way to properly rhythm it. If you try to stop for a moment and then start forming the T, it sounds... botched.
It seems to me that there is a fraction of sound produced when you position your tongue upwards (and the main sound produced when you release), so I guess I understand what you mean there. When chaining sounds, it does make a difference whether you start forming the T and then pause, vs. pausing straight away (which, I think, is also what you mean by "it's important that the previous letter stops sounding", the fraction of T sound helps cutting off clearly the previous sound).
Also, with some consonants, you're making sound throughout. Consider e.g. M and N, where this is the case.
Yes, for those it's easier to understand what a "long" sound is.
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@acrow said in The bad jokes topic 🐴🍹👨:
For a long T, you just hold the press longer.
Oh, so just like an Android keyboard.
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@LaoC said in The bad jokes topic 🐴🍹👨:
@acrow said in The bad jokes topic 🐴🍹👨:
For a long T, you just hold the press longer.
Oh, so just like an Android keyboard.
I don't know. I've never tried typing with my tongue. The phone screen is a bit too unhygienic for that.
Typing with my nose, on the other hand, I have tried. But it's too wide, so I can never hit just the right key. Larger buttons like on most cookie agreement pop-ups are still OK.
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@remi said in The bad jokes topic 🐴🍹👨:
@acrow said in The bad jokes topic 🐴🍹👨:
@Bulb For example, you'd pronunce the T in "Lettee" by pressing your tongue to the top and front of your mouth, I think, and then bringing it inwards and down while exhaling rapidly. For a long T, you just hold the press longer.
But during the "press" phase, you're not producing any sound (I think... I'm no expert either...)? The sound is only made when you move your tongue (), so how does holding the press longer makes any difference? Or is it more like some sort of pause in the rhythm of your speech?
It's like the "chiisai tsu" in Japanese. English (English English, not American English) does this with glo'al stops.
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@acrow said in The bad jokes topic 🐴🍹👨:
the difference between a long and short wovel
At least phi short wovels.
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Two women friends had gone for a girl's night out. Both were very faithful and loving wives, however, they had gotten overenthusiastic on the Bacardi Breezers. Incredibly drunk and walking home they needed to pee, so they stopped in the cemetery. One of them had nothing to wipe with so she thought she would take off her panties and use them.
Her friend, however, was wearing a rather expensive pair of panties and did not want to ruin them. She was lucky enough to squat down next to a grave that had a wreath with a ribbon on it, so she decided to wipe with that. After the girls did their business, they proceeded to go home.
The next day one of the women's husbands was concerned that his normally sweet and innocent wife was still in bed hung over, so he phoned the other husband and said, " These girl nights have got to stop! I'm starting to suspect the worst...my wife came home with no panties!!"
"That's nothing" said the other husband, "Mine came back with a card stuck to her ass that said.....
"From all of us at the Fire Station. We'll never forget you."
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@DoctorJones said in The bad jokes topic 🐴🍹👨:
It's fine right now. Haven't got the joke yet. Maybe I won't. I wonder how mad I'll be.
ed. your problem now
Fuck you and your galoshes.
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@Gribnit You have beef with his galoshes?
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@loopback0 said in The bad jokes topic 🐴🍹👨:
@Gribnit You have beef with his galoshes?
Indeed that is the type of meat apparently on the bone I have to pick here. It's a big bone. Cows are big.
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@DoctorJones Is that a Boot Wellington?
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@Zecc said in The bad jokes topic 🐴🍹👨:
@DoctorJones Is that a Boot Wellington?
Galosh beef, philistine.
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@Gribnit That looks nothing like a goulash to me.
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@Zecc said in The bad jokes topic 🐴🍹👨:
@Gribnit That looks nothing like a goulash to me.
Well no, this one's infix.
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I asked 100 women which shampoo they preferred. The number one answer was "GET OUT!"
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What do new iPhones and jokes about new iPhones have in common?
They're the same as last year.
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My ex had a parrot who could talk. A big bright bird with a huge curved beak. That cunt didn't shut up for a minute, no matter whether it was day or night.
I don't know how the poor parrot could handle listening to her.
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@DoctorJones @error_bot xkcd turbine
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An imam, a priest and a rabbit walk into a blood bank. 'What type are you' asks the admin, 'I think I'm a type-o' says the rabbit.
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@DoctorJones What ? Are there no auto-carrots in the blood bank?
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