Skype for Business



  • Looks like a new MS :wtf: landed on my desktop

    • Seriously ... as if your branding wasn't confusing already ... you had to change Lync to Skype for Business ... But that is old news ...

    • Then when you update you remove all icons on desktop/taskbar/start menu to lync making people calling IT why their lync icon is gone, making even IT guys like me who where expecting this thing to land today wondering.

    • So you rumble through the start menu and start that shit and gives you this:

      Have a wild guess wtf you are supposed to be doing with this ... so it is a tutorial or something?
      Click it to move on? Nope. :wtf:
      Ah ... my mouse pointer changes when I hoover over the text ...

      So I am supposed to do what? Check my DB? Is it going to shuffle my Stack? What does that pointer mean?
      ooo ... you're supposed to click and drag ... wot? when did my desktop pc become a Belgium-ing touch screen? :wtf: MS are you thinking ... I haven't even seen your new app and usability for Business users not on a touch screen is already gone out the window. Business users MS ... people who work on a Windows pc with Excel and Word. Remember those?

    • So you have a tutorial thingy that shows some images with blurbs about how cool this is ... except all mentioned features where already there since Office Communicator. And it needs a black screen transition. No idea why ... when I 'swype' with my mouse to go to the next page I literally pull in a black page. Then the image and text appear.

    • Edit: You couldn't even make the text appear correctly in the intro page of your tutorial? That should read '7 veelgevraagde tips'. Those should be the letter 'g'. (Thanks to @loopback0)

    • Hey looksy ... more white space and round avatars! Have a sample from GIS:

    • Why? Why round images? There are no round user images in Outlook, SharePoint, not even in freaking Yammer, I even checked freaking Yammer to be sure. Those things all used to resemble each other ...

    • Why is the status such damn small round thingy? That is one one the reasons I use the tool for ... and now it is harder then ever to guess if someone is available or not. Why are some available with a green check box and some with a blue arrow? Oh ... you can be busy with a blue arrow to ... :wtf: :angry: :wtf:

    • I still haven't found what that blue arrow is supposed to mean ...

    • All Office icons are rather similar ... except for SfB ... Even SharePoint and InfoPath Designer fit that row ...

    Bonus round: Discourse: why is there an extra white line before my edit? Why do you when I tab to complete a mention remove the line feed and list formatting from the next lines? Why??
    Also why do you fuck up the edit history? I only fixed a typo, added a line and the Discourse failings encountered. I didn't cut and paste my entire post while adding a line.



  • @Luhmann said:

    veelqgevraaqgde

    I think they put some extra letters in your word :trolleybus:


  • area_deu

    It's "veelgevraagde" ...


    Filed under: Font rendering WTF



  • @aliceif said:

    It's "veelgevraagde" ...

    Oh, that's nice and clear. Fixed.



  • http://what.thedailywtf.com/uploads/default/20223/069d10aeb725e4c0.png

    I wonder what “veelqevraaqde” means. It’s not a word I’ve ever come across before …

    [b]Edit:[/b] got ninjad there.

    @Luhmann said:

    Why round images?

    Probably because it’s what OS X and iOS use.

    @Luhmann said:

    All Office icons are rather similar ... except for SfB

    The WTF is the first part of that statement: like Adobe stuff (coloured squares with “Ps”, “Id”, etc. in them, and for some reason “Ai” — probably what you’re going to say when trying to find the application you want), the Office icons are all too similar to each other to be recognisable at a glance. At least you can find the Skype icon right away in that line-up even if it wasn’t the first one.



  • I'm wondering how a "tip" can be "often asked for". Either it is an FAQ, or is it a Tip of the Day. Not both, that's just confusing.



  • The edit history on that post now - it's got practically the entire post as being removed and added. :laughing:



  • @Mikael_Svahnberg said:

    FAQ,

    I'm guessing some idiot applied some reinvent the square wheel translation to Frequently Asked Questions or something.
    That is why translating in a software context is not easy. Before you know it you are reinventing square wheels again.



  • @loopback0 said:

    The edit history on that post now

    BUG: editing inside a list marks the entire list as being edited



  • Days Since Last DiscourseSkype Bug: -1



  • @Gurth said:

    Probably because it’s what OS X and iOS use.

    We are talking about MS here ... the guys who brought us the opposite of round:


  • SockDev

    Eh, Austin got there first with the Allegro's steering wheel:



  • @RaceProUK said:

    steering wheel:

    Your argument is INVALID your steering wheel is on the wrong side.


  • SockDev

    'Fixed':



  • Translation: things are different than they were before, so I'm going to bitch for awhile.



  • Heh...I got an email from corporate about this. As I use Pidgin (though I've never used the voice part) to connect, I mostly ignored the email.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Translation: things are different than they were before, so I'm going to bitch for awhile.

    I didn't know you could read Dutch.



  • Hilarious.

    The only bullet-point there that might be a bug is the one about making square avatars round, but when I said that was a bug in Discourse, you ass-rammers all piled-on it and said no it's not, so.

    It's all just bitching.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    The only bullet-point there that might be a bug

    So what? That something is a bug or not is orthogonal to it being a WTF.

    @blakeyrat said:

    It's all just bitching.

    Um, yeah. Are you suddenly against that or something?



  • @boomzilla said:

    Um, yeah. Are you suddenly against that or something?

    If the source of the bitching is: "it's different, so now I hate it!" then yes. I've always been against that.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    If the source of the bitching is: "it's different, so now I hate it!" then yes.

    OK, but that's not what @luhman did here, so you're still writing gibberish.


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election

    @Luhmann said:

    hoover

    +1


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @RaceProUK said:

    Austin got there first with the Allegro's steering wheel

    The shape of the wheel is the least of the problems with the Allegro (a.k.a., the Adagio, given its handling and performance).



    • All the old access points were removed without warning. One would hope corporate users are used to this shit (LCS -> OCS -> Lync -> Skype), but that group does contain the dumbest sheeple on the planet, so ++supportBurden
    • They made a new tutorial. Not to cover all that was different, but to re-cover all that was the same.
    • How to operate the tutorial is undiscoverable.
    • The status UI is undiscoverable. (The purple stripe that used to mean OOF is now a purple arrow; the blue stripe that used to mean "in a meeting" is now a blue arrow. All of this is discoverable on mouse-over. No idea what his problem is.)
    • Inefficient use of space. Probably to make things touch-friendly, but see how fucking LONG that scroll bar is now?

    • Bitching cause it's different, and for the sake of bitching, and because Discourse.


  • @blakeyrat said:

    so I'm going to bitch for awhile.

    I'm not you. I can handle change.

    The UI hardly looks different even with the round icons. I was already used to that 5 minutes.

    • Things that where similar/identical between applications now no longer are. The user info I get in outlook, office applications & SharePoint looks and feels roughly the same in all these applications. It's great! It's a motertrucking big feature. It's one of those things that pulls Outlook, Word, SharePoint and all the rest together, more so then a common installer. But now it looks slightly different in Skype for Business. And those changes add nothing.
    • The introduction thingy is ugly and intuitive. It asked me to perform a swipe gesture with my mouse.

    @blakeyrat said:

    It's all just bitching.

    Of course it is! What the fuck are you doing on this forum? If you don't like bitching get the fuck out!



  • The Austin Allaggro.



  • @Luhmann said:

    It asked me to perform a swipe gesture with my mouse.


  • SockDev

    @dkf said:

    The shape of the wheel is the least of the problems with the Allegro (a.k.a., the Adagio, given its handling and performance).

    IIRC, it was more aerodynamic going backwards :laughing:



  • Sorry but I can't help you on how to turn your pc back into it's regular shape after you punched it into a square box.



  • Are you having a stroke? What the fuck are you talking about?



  • @blakeyrat said:

    What the fuck are you talking about?

    The form of that pc doesn't look right. It's square. Did you punch it or something? I doubt we can help you get it back into a proper size.

    <burb



  • @TwelveBaud said:

    Not to cover all that was different,

    They highlight the new look and feel and the fact that it now features the Skype emoji ...



  • Is that a Hanzo I see next to 💃?



  • @TwelveBaud said:

    The status UI is undiscoverable. (The purple stripe that used to mean OOF is now a purple arrow; the blue stripe that used to mean "in a meeting" is now a blue arrow. All of this is discoverable on mouse-over. No idea what his problem is.)

    I figured out that much after some more people changing status. The purple stripe was consistent with what you set in Outlook. I schedule something and set it as 'not available' it gets this bar and in Lync my contacts see the same bar.



  • @TwelveBaud said:

    a Hanzo

    a ninja, so yes.



  • @Luhmann said:

    moving Skype emoji

    I'll take it all back ... it's the best office update since ages!



  • No, I meant, identical to the :hanzo: :hanzo: emoji. And yes, it is identical. Fun!


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election

    They stole our hanzo!



  • Wow, they even made the entire application spit out gibberish for text.


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election

    inb4 lojban



  • Gotta love them for including the


  • mod

    @Luhmann said:

    Ah ... my mouse pointer changes when I hoover over the text ...

    :vacuum:



  • @Luhmann said:

    We are talking about MS here ... the guys who brought us the opposite of round:

    Also the guys who were already [url=http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=A_Rich_Neighbor_Named_Xerox.txt&sortOrder=Sort+by+Date&topic=3rd+party+developers]copying Mac OS since before it was even released[/url].


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    This looks entirely too much like:




  • Grade A Premium Asshole

    @boomzilla said:

    As I use Pidgin (though I've never used the voice part) to connect, I mostly ignored the email.

    Damned open sores software, always just working.



  • @Polygeekery said:

    Damned open sores software, always just working.

    Not entirely true. The machine I use came with Windows, so I'm pretty sure it isn't Linux hardware. Everyone knows it's the Windows hardware that crashes. I've had a few of those.



  • @RaceProUK said:

    'Fixed':

    No, it's not. Now the speedometer and meters and logo are backwards. Ya gotta finish the job!


    So my take on this is: Pure gloating on Microsoft's part. "Look what we done. We bought Skype and now y'all gonna know it! Because we're so great!" But that doesn't mean they would actually do a decent job of implementing it or, you know, adopt Skype's actual technology. And of course, they must implement it in their new, "Everything is a cellphone™" motif, because, you know, "FU, desktop users! FU, corporate users! Use your F'ing cellphone to do everything! F your productivity, nobody's going to have a job in this country anyway."

    (Sorry for getting carried away.)



  • @CoyneTheDup said:

    No, it's not. Now the speedometer and meters and logo are backwards. Ya gotta finish the job!

    I can handle this, I'm a photo manipulation expert!



  • Much better. Thanks. :smile:


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