Pronunciation
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A discussion at the lunch table today brought up a question I want to pose here (because why not).
Which is the correct syllable to emphasize in the word default?
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As a noun, the first.
As a verb, the second.
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The first one.
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Which is the correct syllable to emphasize in the word default?
which one will make it fit in iambic pentameter?
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I'm Polish, so I'm emphasize "de". That's because every* Polish word has second-to-last syllable emphasized.
* - with exceptions, of course, and there are exceptions from exceptions too.
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Always the second syllable.
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dɪˈfɔːɫt according to Wiktionary.
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Which is the correct syllable to emphasize in the word default?
Depends on usage, as @Yamikuronue says:- You set a config to its DEfaults
- And you deFAULT on a loan payment
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Today I also had a similar discussion about FAQ. Since we aren't native English, and someone pronounced FAQ as fac, which sounds like fuck, specially during calls, I mentioned that they should pronounce F-A-Q.
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Yeah, my top google results all suggested deFAULT. But then I explicitly checked oxford, which listed both but did not provide further information.
I've always heard DEfault for the computer setting use, but without any native speakers around that doesn't mean much.
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I've always heard DEfault for the computer setting use, but without any native speakers around that doesn't mean much.
My old American Heritage Dictionary (INB4 American "English" is TRWTF) has the accent on the second syllable only, which is the way I pronounce it. However, I guess I'm also sufficiently accustomed to hearing the first syllable stressed when used as a noun that I don't think I'd even notice; I had to stop and really think about how I pronounce it.
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Today I also had a similar discussion about FAQ. Since we aren't native English, and someone pronounced FAQ as fac, which sounds like fuck, specially during calls, I mentioned that they should pronounce F-A-Q.
Is SQL pronounced S-Q-L or sequel?
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Sequel because the SQL team says it that way, except MySQL is "my-squll" (like squirrel without the "r", or "skull" with a q instead) because reasons.
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But then PostgreSQL is "postgres-q-l"
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FAQ should be pronounced like "fuck you". Like, someone ask a stupid question, and you point them at FAQ.
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I do a double take whenever anyone writes "an FAQ." But then, it's pretty obvious when I'm saying "fack" vs "fuck."
When my daughter was...I dunno, two or three years old, when she'd say "vacuum" it really sounded like "fuckyou." This lead to lots of embarrassing moments in stores.
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someone pronounced FAQ as fac
It's ok, over here we get the full fu-ckyou.
I know I got Hanzo'd but I feel bad every time I abandon a post.
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Both.
The two greatest words in the English language: DE FAULT, DE FAULT.
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Fack:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGUuMAuudPE
(nsfw) (if the thumbnail didn't make that clear)
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correct syllable
Here you might (will) get a lot of regional variations on things like this.
For example: "cache" has a long "a" (rhyme with hay) for me and almost everyone I know. But I understand some people in the world make it the same as "cash". I once heard it pronounced with an "ay" on the end but I think that person was trolling. Caché!
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Just for funsies I'll occasionally throw a "cack" into that fight
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Why not 'catch'?
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Because che might be some archaic form of ck, but bears no resemblance whatsoever to tch?
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cache
I'll take any pronunciation of that, as long as they don't try to fucking translate it! Oh, the translation is passable on it's own, until you realize it can be (and sometimes is) also used for "buffer", "clipboard", and sometimes even RAM.
Then again, we have like 4 competing translations for "folder" / "directory"...
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Which is the correct syllable to emphasize in the word default?
Whatever context you were going to use the word "default" in, say "John Galt" instead. See how long it takes people to catch on.
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Because che might be some archaic form of ck, but bears no resemblance whatsoever to tch?
Standalone ch can be 'tch' in some cases.
'e' can be silent at end in some cases.
I do not respect english enough as a language enough to care that those two particular rules don't combine, assuming they really don't (feel free to spend some time going over a sufficiently fat dictionary to verify whether a word ending with "che" sounding like "Tch" exists or not. I wouldn't be surprised if one did).
Yawn, let's see where this idiotwar ends.
Maybe someone will even say something half-interesting?
I know I won't.
SMALLEDIT: In fact, I'm going to try keep this deboot a-rolling until I'm either ignored (in a non-confrontational manner), are yelled at sufficiently (in a non-interesting manner), or get bored (almost there, already).
Or find out someone's reading this.
SMALLEDIT2: Yeah, seeing Race's reply, I finally realized my above tirade was a mild boring one not deserving more. Durr-whoops!
SMALLEDIT3: This is suspeciously() like talking to myself.
() I don't correct spelling when talking to myself. Often.
SMALLEDIT4: If you find this small text. The first step is to figure out whether I want you to point them out or not. Hint: the answer is NOTxN what you think, N is integer.
(The answer is YES, of course. Duh.)
SMALLEDIT5:
SMALLEDIT6:
SMALLEDIT7: (TODO: put some stuff here later. support big endian systems. maybe add some locking more granular than a single lock for 90% of the code...)
SMALLEDIT8: You can't hide from me!
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feel free to spend some time going over a sufficiently fat dictionary to verify whether a word ending with "che" sounding like "Tch" exists or not. I wouldn't be surprised if one did
If it does, it will certainly not be in widespread usage…
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If it does, it will certainly not be in widespread usage…
I'll take what I can get.
None of my posts is complete without smallspam.
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In Japan there are such software named "Bravely Default", like Bravely Default Praying Brage.
It takes the English meaning: 'Bravely Reneges'.
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In Japan there are such software named "Bravely Default", like Bravely Default Praying Brage.
It takes the English meaning: 'Bravely Reneges'.I couldn't not hear this as I read your comment.
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verify whether a word ending with "che" sounding like "Tch" exists or not.
Didn't have to get past the A's on merriam-webster.com to find avalanche.
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Caché
At least that's the french etymology of the word: To keep your food in a tree near your cabin so you don't have to go hunting too far in wintertime, while hiding (caché =hide) it from other predators.
It doesn't help out with "default" (OED says to emphasise the second syllable here), but my old english teacher gave us the tip that for longer words, the emphasis is always on the third syllable from the end. Works surprisingly (see) well.
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avalanche.
And if there's anyone that pronounces that with a soft ch, how about ‘blanche’?
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lanche\b
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I have no idea what you are talking about.
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second-to-last
Penultimate?
Is SQL pronounced S-Q-L or sequel?
Squirrel.
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How do you pronounces SQL in Germany?
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It's squirrels all the way down!
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Ass Coo Ell - at least most of the people I know.
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Approximate German names of S and Q.
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with exceptions, of course, and there are exceptions from exceptions too.
Every rule has an exception, except this one.
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