Discourse Metabooty
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I never want to sit at your breakfast table ... you're scary ...
Maybe he just really doesn't enjoy breakfast...
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That baby sure looks delighted to be wrapped in lettuce and bread...
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What do you mean that's a not a cup holder?
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That's cocoa. Not coffee.
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What was the name on your Coke Zero bottle?
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Melanie.
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Was surprised to see names on bottles still. That ended ages ago here.
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That ended ages ago here.
It depends on when the stores sell out. I never bought any; I've hated the taste of cola since about age 5 due to an airplane “incident”…
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Drink, not inhale and no C|N>K?
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it might as well be a cup holder these days.... i didnt even install a cd/dvd/bluray drive on my PC. i hooked one up with USB to install windows and that was the only time i needed one.
obligatory duckwhores complaint - it is fucking impossible to get the cursor to the first character of the post on mobile, it always hits the goddamn quoteall button instead.
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Longpress to paste a link and longpress to select a whole damn line also irritates me on mobile.
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is that a duckwhores thing or a mobile in general thing?
i think half of my problem is that duckwhores runs in desktop mode on my browser. which is fine, because the mobile version was annoyingly worse in other ways.
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Hmm. Never tried the desktop version on my phone, but the mobile version is missing a lot of features, and I have a HW keyboard, so that might be worth a shot...
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Hmm. Never tried the desktop version on my phone, but the mobile version is missing a lot of features, and I have a HW keyboard, so that might be worth a shot...
Hmm, this doesn't seem too bad; in landscape mode at any rate.
Portrait is basically unusable, but having my keyboard open forces landscape anyway, so that may be a moo point, like a cow's opinion.
It's nice to be able to quote a whole post, and have a preview window. It'd be nice to be able to show/hide the composition window to get more preview space, but hey, there is no preview at all on mobile:Upload works well enough (as you can probably see ); trying to cancel out of a post reveals a rough edge though:
Hmm. Not sure yet—could just be swapping one set of irritations for another different set of irritations. Might want to save it for epic posts only... we'll see...
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BTW, the devs refuse to fix the popups. Just FYI.
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BTW, the devs refuse to fix the popups. Just FYI.
Why would the devs fix it? It's just yet another thing which makes their app look shitty and half-baked. I guess they're all off masturbating new and terrible features which nobody gives a fuck about.
The popups are also broken on desktop with zoom ≥ 200%, but I suppose using any zoom ratio other than 100% is also Doing it Wrong. Fuck anyone who has poor eyesight or a high resolution monitor...
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Why would the devs fix it? It's just yet another thing which makes their app look shitty and half-baked. I guess they're all off masturbating new and terrible features which nobody gives a fuck about.
The popups are also broken on desktop with zoom ≥ 200%, but I suppose using any zoom ratio other than 100% is also Doing it Wrong. Fuck anyone who has poor eyesight or a high resolution monitor...
EDIT: Maybe if they fixed their goddamn mobile interface in the first place people wouldn't be resorting to hacks in the first place...
EDIT: I just hit the why the hell did it reply? Why is this software so utterly terrible in every respect?!
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Here it is:
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/tab-where/2918/29?u=aliceifAnyways, I use desktop mode on my phone all the time. If you learn to avoid triggering dialog popups and always leave the first line of your text editor empty, it is kind of usable-ish.
But they should still fix those two fucking things. I just can't be bothered to argue with them about it.
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Seriously, there's probably about 5 or 6 serious bugs which need to be fixed and then it would actually be great. The single biggest problem it has is the inexplicable attitude of its developers who simply refuse to even acknowledge that these bugs exist in the first place.
If you came to me with a program that I wrote and gave me a repro case for a dialogue appearing off the screen. I would probably just fix it straight away. At the very worst, if it did seem to be hard to fix, I'd get the bug entered my bug tracker so I can take look at it later. The one thing I wouldn't do is turn round to the bug reporter and tell them that they're an asshole and my software is perfect and they don't know what a bug is anyway and do they even know who I am?
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5 or 6 serious bugs
Right, related topics are also kind of displaybroken and hard to click on desktop-mobile.
What are the other 2-3 bugs?
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Right, related topics are also kind of displaybroken and hard to click on desktop-mobile.
What are the other 2-3 bugs?Mostly quoting. I figure it's kind of important in forum software to be able to quote people properly...
(Also I consider markdown to be a bug as well. Or not being able to turn it off at least...)
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I'd get the bug entered my bug tracker so I can take look at it later
Step 1: Use a bug tracker that isn't Discourse.
Somehow I don't think they'll get very far. Their preferred tracker has a tendency to lose bugs.
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Their preferred tracker has a tendency to lose bugs.
Their preferred bug tracker is not designed for bug tracking!
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But dogfooding!
I don't understand this insane attitude they have of dogfooding their software at something it's not designed for.
They should dogfood it as a forum.
It's like if I tried to dogfood my latest sponge cake recipe by seeing how well it performs as a contraceptive.
Filed under: things our customers have said about Discourse
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my latest sponge cake recipe by seeing how well it performs as a contraceptive.
If it gives you an instant shoot out diarrhea it might be rather effective
Perfect analogy because that leads us seamlessly back to Discourse ...
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The one thing I wouldn't do is turn round to the bug reporter and tell them that they're an asshole and my software is perfect and they don't know what a bug is anyway and do they even know who I am?
This is why you'll never succeed.
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At the very worst, if it did seem to be hard to fix
I don't see why it would. Then again, fuck knows what they are doing to the dialogs that breaks them in the first place.
Mostly quoting.
Yeah, like it works on desktop...
I think plenty of stuff could be fixed in CSS alone. If my current phone wasn't that big of a POS I'd try and get privileges to edit it on some of the test forums and try.
Then again... can either of you (paging @tar and @aliceif since I know you two use this) confirm if the same bugs happen if you go to your browsers dev tools and turn on mobile mode? If so I can experiment that way and propose fixes for at least our own CSS if successful.
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You mean Firefox's "Responsive Design" view? Sure.
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Yep, first line gets partially cut off - and popup dialogs are partially offscreen in bad ways.
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Right, so it's just screen size failures, not mobile browser quirks. I can debug this without admin rights.
*cracks knuckles*
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Well there's your problem with that one (editor buttons)! Let's see what kind of stupid we can use here...
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They werent sponge-worthy anyway
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since i'm on a tablet with the resolution of a small desktop, things are mostly working. i can even see all the popups.
but srsly, how hard is it to make your popup show at 1/2 screenheight instead of [arbitrary hardcoded height that might not even be on screen]. It reeeks of devs that have never done web gui before.
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Not only that' but code the position from the bottom of the viewport? Nearly everything in
webui design is based on top left. About the only time to position something relative to the bottom is when you want it to stay at the bottom of a window, like a dialog button. Positioning a dialog relative to bottom is idiotic.
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This shit is all absolute positioning! They are using borders to space the editor below the button bar. Let me repeat that:
The editor is placed below the button bar using the
border
attribute!border
!Not
top
. Notmargin-top
. Notpadding-top
on the parent element so the<textarea>
gets moved down when you place it inside.border
!I need more coffee... I'll see if I have some whiskey to put in it while I'm at it.
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theres a reason for the border. it is the only way they could figure out how to allow to dynamically size the editor and get it to work with the other elements in the post window. it also tirggers a bug in certain browser where the cursor/top row ends up under the border when you try to scroll up inside the post window.
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i tried to repro their layout without using border and wasnt successful at making it work right when resized. doing it other ways makes it more functional and less buggy, but also less "pretty" i guess
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WebKit, apparently. Old bug report here.
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yep, a bug report that ironically gets the duckwhores treatment from chromedevs.... ignored because you're doing it wrong to largeborder a textarea.
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CLOSED_WONTFIX_DONTCARE
also maddening is that if your screen isnt wide enough, the icons above the post window wrap around and end up being on top of the first line of your post anyway.
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Speaking of old bug reports, I wonder if this bug still exists...
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/page-up-in-editor-has-odd-effect/3156?u=chaostheeternal
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A thought occurs... I think I have a workable solution for the editor buttons thing. Involves JS, sadly, but it should work (not like the editor works without JS anyway).
Need to dig in and find a usable event hook though, which I don't have the time for right now. I may look into it later on tonight if I don't come back home too late.
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They should dogfood it as a forum.
Isn't that what meta.d is?
I'm trying not to LOL here...
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What is discourse actually good for anyway. QA engineer training material?