😈 The Evil Ideas thread
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There would need to be some way to allow the public to vote on overriding the sunset, thus making the law permanent. This process should require a public super-majority. Something like 70% or more.
Not permanent. And not a public referendum. Let them just vote for the same thing again. One benefit is that they're too busy re-passing old good stuff to come up with new bad stuff.
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This sort of thing makes me really mad. Partially for the obvious reason...
but partially because I actually agree with at least many of the protesters in that I think that we have a significant police problem that really ought to be addressed (Ferguson isn't convincing but there are plenty of cases that are) and it's poising the well and will make it harder to actually make useful progress.
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Reminds me on something I read about car rental around here: Apparently, when the car is returned, they check it on 15-20 separate items whether it's the same car.
Apparently based on real issues where people would rent a car for a day, replace the near-new engine with a 200.000 KM one, and return it.
Copied from pentester's paradise thread.
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Does it qualify as an evil idea though, if there's actually people out there who do it?
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Does it qualify as an evil idea though, if there's actually people out there who do it?
Depends on why they're doing it. If they're doing it because for some reason they think they are being helpful, it belongs in the "Road to Hell" thread. Your example obviously belongs here.
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A guy from Bristol who got ripped off by an online seller has taken a unique type of revenge...
Edd discovered he could copy the words from the internet and paste them into a text message – without costing him a penny on his unlimited mobile phone package.
He sends it as one text but his victim can only receive them in 160 character chunks – meaning the 37 works of Shakespeare will buzz through in 29,305 individual texts.
So far Edd has sent 22 plays including Hamlet, Macbeth and Othello which have been delivered in 17,424 texts.
Filed under: it makes @mention bombing look like ameteur hour...
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A couple phones ago, back when I had Windows Mobile 6 I discovered I could copy-paste the SMS recipients field back into the recipients field. Any contact which was in there multiple times would receive the text multiple times.
I created a message, pasted in one of my friends about 1,000 times, and hit send. He received a text message from me about every 3 - 5 seconds for basically the rest of the day. The best part is his phone at the time would cancel whatever he's doing to show an incoming text, so he couldn't actually do anything else until the messages quit coming through.
Didn't tie up my phone one bit. I'm guessing the cell network itself was responsible for sending duplicates to the contact list.
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A guy from Bristol who got ripped off by an online seller has taken a unique type of revenge..
You would think the seller would have blocked him after the first play, but apparently not, from the article.
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I once was mucking about with a Sim box we used to send texts. A slight configuration hicup caused the box to send out a near constant stream of messages to my colleague during his lunch break.
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You would think the seller would have blocked him after the first play, but apparently not, from the article.
most of the time blocking a number does not tell someone that you have blocked them. at least in the US it's common for texts to a blocked number to simply disappear and for voice calls to get a generic "call could not be completed" message.
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I know. That would have meant the seller wouldn't have gotten those 17K texts. It's what I would have done in his place. But the article says he called up the guy who was texting him and complained.
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-sigh- this fox is never earning a pendant is she?
fair enough, but that i think just shows the average intelligence of your average scammer is about on par with a potato.
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-sigh- this fox is never earning a pendant is she?
fair enough, but that i think just shows the average intelligence of your average scammer is about on par with a potato.
You and me both.
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At least one of the UK mobile carriers does't support network level blocking*. It's a safe bet if one doesn't, the rest don't,
If that's the case for him, and his phone doesn't support it, he's had it.EDIT: *as an easily accessible service for a user
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That would just be 'orrible, now wouldn't it? I mean, I have no sympathy and I hope the guy can't block those SMSs. I'm just saying if someone tried to DoS me, I'd try that.
I would think a smartphone could block locally too but CBA to test. At least that way presumably you wouldn't see the messages.
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Mine does if a number's in the reject list.
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fair enough, but that i think just shows the average intelligence of your average scammer is about on par with a potato.
I wasn't aware you could block people from texting you.
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it's not well advertized.... the telco doesn't want you to do it (they still have to pay for the bandwidth the text used but they can't bill you for the blocked text (unless you are on unlimited then they don't want you to know because then the un-unlimited accounts will know about it))
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So you thought you could block calls but not other communications? I mean I can see telcos only enabling whatever legal minimum blocking they can get away with, but that is a rather large hole to leave.
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So you thought you could block calls but not other communications?
I can block calls?
it's not well advertized.... the telco doesn't want you to do it (they still have to pay for the bandwidth the text used but they can't bill you for the blocked text (unless you are on unlimited then they don't want you to know because then the un-unlimited accounts will know about it))
So, what, you call them up and add a number to the list?
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So, what, you call them up and add a number to the list?
varies carrier to carrier, but it's usually a think on their website that you log into and add.
sometimes you cna do it from your phone too.
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but they can't bill you for the blocked text
You pay to receive messages in the US? WOT?
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wot me? no! that's because i go through a MVNO that adds perks like that to their basic plans. but the big three.... yep. that's an add-on.
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You pay to receive messages in the US? WOT?
Also in Canada (because we like to copy the States). It's lame.
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but the big three.... yep. that's an add-on.
Do you (the general North American you, not you personally) have to pay to receive calls too?
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why do you think i went to a MVNO?
no contract, cost for the premium plan is 1/3rd the basic plan on the network my MVNO operates on. and customer service is 1000% better.
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You pay to receive messages in the US? WOT?
Depends on your plan. Until recently, I had one where every sent / received message cost 10¢. And to get unlimited would be $5/month. But I rarely got even a single one, so it was a better deal.
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Hey, it's our right to be strung six ways to the wind by telcoms! This is 'MURICA!!1
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Do you (the general North American you, not you personally) have to pay to receive calls too?
Most plans (IME) have a certain number of minutes per month on them. And you use them either by calling or receiving the call. There are exceptions, like phones in a list of close people, or on the same network, or when you call at off hour type times.
Do you guys have a phone fairy or something? Who pays for you to receive a call?
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Do you guys have a phone fairy or something? Who pays for you to receive a call?
The network I guess, technically. Certainly not the recipient.
Someone pays (or gets them as part of the tariff, whatever) to send the SMS or place the call, the receiver doesn't pay anything.
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I believe most of the world is on a system in which only one party pays for a call, rather than both. Typically the sender, to avoid the recipient getting billed for spam.
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The network I guess, technically. Certainly not the recipient.
Someone pays (or gets them as part of the tariff, whatever) to send the SMS or place the call, the receiver doesn't pay anything.The caller pays, traditionally, in European telecom pricing structures?
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The caller pays, traditionally, in European telecom pricing structures?
UK for sure, can't see Europe being any different. That's how it makes sense.
Do you have to pay to receive a call on a landline too? Or receive some post? It's as ridiculous as that.
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I believe most of the world is on a system in which only one party pays for a call, rather than both.
Oh, right...is this the stuff where it's more expensive to call a cell phone than a land line? ISTR hearing about that somewhere. What a ripoff.
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Do you have to pay to receive a call on a landline too? Or receive some post? It's as ridiculous as that.
I don't think so. It's only cellphones and mobile data and so on that are "special".
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I recently had to explain "long distance" to my kids. I think there was something about it in a Weird Al song or something and it didn't make sense to them.
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I should point out that landlines work that way in the US too. If someone calls you long-distance you don't get charged a long-distance fee unless they call collect, and if they call collect, they don't pay.
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I think you used to have to pay to receive on cell ages ago. But not nowadays.
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I made a collect call to my parents (in the US) from Stockholm several years ago, to tell them that my flight was cancelled and they shouldn't drive 5 hrs to NYC to pick me up.
I think my dad told me that call was $35. There were cheaper options if I knew it was going to be that much...
Or I could have done this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JxhTnWrKYs
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I believe most of the world is on a system in which only one party pays for a call, rather than both. Typically the sender, to avoid the recipient getting billed for spam.
This is what makes sense. In particular, because a large part of the text spam I get comes from the operator itself.
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Most plans (IME) have a certain number of minutes per month on them. And you use them either by calling or receiving the call.
Do the telcos send you texts with your remaining minutes credit, like they do around here?
Edit: hey, we're in the right thread!
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Do the telcos send you texts with your remaining minutes credit, like they do around here?
Edit: hey, we're in the right thread!Sometimes, but the didn't charge for those.
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Sometimes, but the didn't charge for those.
AIUI around these parts they're not allowed to charge their clients for text messages they sent...
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Nothing says you hate trick or treaters in quite the same way...
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You win the thread.
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The Medieval Christian threat is under control, Mr. President.
Heh...I LOL'd when I read that. Then I cried a little.
So I take it there are no christians who commit crimes and all muslims that commit crimes do it because they are muslim?
EDIT: this was moved from funny stuff (discussing war and stuff there didn't make sense), and I added a quote to preserve context. -b
EDIT: I can also edit my post. This is a test of the post edit announcement system. -b