🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD
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Some of the things I've seen with shipping container buildings have looked like a bad idea, others not so much. I mean it's basically a metal box that is cheaper to dump and build a replacement than to reuse so finding something to do with them seems like it would be a good idea.
ISO containers are actually rather sturdy critters (they have to be in order to survive the harsh treatment they get when aboard a ship). Using them as giant, hollow construction bricks isn't nearly as terrible an idea as it sounds at first; I've even pondered what it'd take to turn one into an intermodal RV-of-sorts.
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Quite a few shipping container houses look pretty comfy.
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honey, men don't work like that
I know, right? "I want to turn off men, so I'll add a guy magnet to my chest." That was the second clue it was a hoax. (The first one was the very idea of this body mod. The concept got debunked several years ago when someone set up a hoax about these two twin brothers that were supposedly having various body parts amputated and then attached to the other brother. IIRC one guy had his arm cut off and grafted onto the same arm on his brother, to give him a double-long arm.
So it turns out that basically, no surgeon will do this kind of thing.
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Yeah some of those look nice, others a little less so. Though without the normal style of walls it would be awkward for things like plumbing and electrical. Though I suppose having a 6" x 6" box running along the wall could be worked into things like built in shelving rather than just being something like a massive mutant molding on only some walls.
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so finding something to do with them seems like it would be a good idea.
Melt them down and start over. This is just fucking ugly.
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Melt them down and start over.
The reason they don't get reused is cause sending back to where they come from is more expensive than just making new ones there so melting them down would only get you the raw materials in the new place (which you could use for something else). But then I disagree on this point:
This is just fucking ugly
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I admit I haven't read the whole thing yet, but I would guess that this is intended to cover the situation where there is sufficient evidence that the offender committed an offence to justify expulsion, but not enough to result in a criminal conviction
I haven't read the Reason article yet, but bear in mind the policies are resulting in, "girl and boy get drunk, have sex, a month later (!) she decides she didn't like it, reports it to the school. Then they railroad the guy and force him out of the college. Meanwhile, nobody even ever called the police, or if the girl did, she declined to file charges, or she did, but the cops found her story didn't add up and there was no evidence to support bringing a rape charge to trial."
In many cases, the boy is told "someone" made a charge, but not who, the specifics of the event, and is given such short notice to be "questioned" by someone at the university with no training in this kind of thing, and even if he can get a lawyer in time, he is told he doesn't have the right to bring one to the meeting.
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Though without the normal style of walls it would be awkward for things like plumbing and electrical.
Run your conduit/pipe along the grooves in the corrugation, drill access holes when needed. No biggie. If you want it to look nice, you need to clad it in something anyway.
However, where it gets cold, I guess running water that way would up the risk of frozen pipes.
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In many cases, the boy is told "someone" made a charge, but not who, the specifics of the event, and is given such short notice to be "questioned" by someone at the university with no training in this kind of thing, and even if he can get a lawyer in time, he is told he doesn't have the right to bring one to the meeting.
Considering how often the cops screw up interrogating suspects...yeah. Universities making policies that extend their reach into criminal law is a bad idea, and ought to be seen in the same way as any other end-around attempt on due process, i.e. kill it with fire.
You folks should read Popehat sometime if you want a clue as to how bad folks can be about trampling on other people's civil liberties.
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Though without the normal style of walls it would be awkward for things like plumbing and electrical.
What is it with people and hating exposed plumbing/conduit/raceway? I'm more-or-less in spirit with:
Run your conduit/pipe along the grooves in the corrugation, drill access holes when needed. No biggie.
However, where it gets cold, I guess running water that way would up the risk of frozen pipes.
Also, pipe insulation is a thing.
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However, where it gets cold, I guess running water that way would up the risk of frozen pipes.
If you're in a place that gets cold you also need to be adding insulation of some kind on either the inside or the outside of the metal box anyway. They aren't enough to do a whole building, but as a quick and cheap basic framework they do work.
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Also, pipe insulation is a thing.
Yeah but you're talking 1.5" pipes and I'm not sure it's gonna fit on those corrugation grooves with the insulation around it too-- pipes themselves would be iffy.
But whatever.
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You folks should read Popehat sometime
A lot of what I know about this comes from Popehat, Instapundit, and the like.
Instapundit is openly agitating for the men being expelled to sue for Title IX violations, partly because irony is fun.
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If you're in a place that gets cold you also need to be adding insulation of some kind on either the inside or the outside of the metal box anyway.
Or hot. Which is probably most places in the US.
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The concept got debunked several years ago when someone set up a hoax about these two twin brothers that were supposedly having various body parts amputated and then attached to the other brother. IIRC one guy had his arm cut off and grafted onto the same arm on his brother, to give him a double-long arm.
Astute readers will take a hint from the legend at the bottom of the page: "This interview posted <NOBR>April 1,</NOBR> 1999."
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The law seems to say that schools must adopt policies, but not exactly what those policies must be.
"questioned" by someone at the university with no training in this kind of thing
That seems to be covered by
SB967:
- (b)(12) A comprehensive, trauma-informed training program for campus officials involved in investigating and adjudicating sexual assault, domestic violence, dating violence, and stalking cases.
"someone" made a charge
That could be a problem:
SB967:
- (b)(13) Procedures for confidential reporting by victims and third parties.
even if he can get a lawyer in time, he is told he doesn't have the right to bring one to the meeting.
SB967:
- (c) ... refer students for assistance or make services available to students, ... and legal assistance, and including resources for the accused.
Meanwhile, nobody even ever called the police, or if the girl did, she declined to file charges, or she did, but the cops found her story didn't add up and there was no evidence to support bringing a rape charge to trial."
SB976:
- (b)(7) ... and coordination with law enforcement, as appropriate.
Universities making policies that extend their reach into criminal law is a bad idea,
My take on this is that it is providing civil/administrative penalties, in addition to the normal criminal penalties.
Besides, in California, the State Universities, at least, already have their own police departments that are equal in standing to any other police or sheriff in the state. Whether they are equal in training, etc. to other police is different question.
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My take on this is that it is providing civil/administrative penalties, in addition to the normal criminal penalties.
That doesn't change the analysis, sadly.Besides, in California, the State Universities, at least, already have their own police departments that are equal in standing to any other police or sheriff in the state. Whether they are equal in training, etc. to other police is different question.
Yeah; sadly, campus cops are no better than the rest, and sometimes quite a bit worse. It's a shame that cops have gotten so lousy at chucking the rotten apples out of their ranks, as the rotten folk in uniforms just make life much harder for the good folk in uniforms.
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My take on this is that it is providing civil/administrative penalties, in addition to the normal criminal penalties
Not my take. It's not "in addition to", because if someone was already convicted there would probably be no problem expelling them anywhere. I'm with the others: this is (nominally) to provide extra-judicial recourse for places where a conviction isn't securable. Sort of a "well, he's not going to jail, but at least he's not going to school."
I'm quite uncomfortable with the "preponderance of the evidence" standard. I would prefer to see "clear and convincing evidence."
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Melt them down and start over. This is just fucking ugly.
Not all converted shipping containers are ugly though. The British TV show George Clarke's Amazing Spaces showcases small buildings and vehicles that have been converted and nearly all of them are indeed amazing.
Well worth watching if you like renovation\lifestyle type programmes.
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Meh, so it's longer back than I remembered.
Bear in mind The Onion is fooling people to this day.
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Besides, in California, the State Universities, at least, already have their own police departments that are equal in standing to any other police or sheriff in the state. Whether they are equal in training, etc. to other police is different question.
Well, given that multiple universities have settled, are being sued, and/or have lost lawsuits over this, and there's no sign of that stopping, I think we can safely assume that universities are not as well trained as the cops.
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Besides, in California, the State Universities, at least, already have their own police departments that are equal in standing to any other police or sheriff in the state. Whether they are equal in training, etc. to other police is different question.
Also--I don't know if this has happened in California yet, but all the cases Instapundit has been talking about, there's no cops. There's been at least one case I can recall where the cops refused to press rape charges, having conducted an investigation and determining the woman's story was not plausible, but the university expelled the man anyway.
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I'm quite uncomfortable with the "preponderance of the evidence" standard. I would prefer to see "clear and convincing evidence."
The major problem about this is the Obama Administration is pushing replacing a "clear and convincing" standard with "preponderance of the evidence:" they're actively reducing legal protections to the accused.
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A film based on Tetris
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“We certainly have the canvas for location-based entertainment based on the epicness.”
“What you [will] see in ‘Tetris’ is the teeny tip of an iceberg that has intergalactic significance,”WTF is this guy smoking?
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Oh great, so I can start firing all those poor minorities and pregnant women. It's my organizational policy, not a court matter. They don't have any legal right to keep working in my private company.
Not to be a pedantic dickweed, but you can do so legally. You merely have to prove that they would not be a cultural fit in your organization, and have that hold up in court if you are sued. It is actually not that uncommon.
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How about THIS trail of WTF-ery?
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I hope he put enough effort into it so we can put his ass on the Darwin awards short list.
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Not sure about that guy, but this one might have made it.
"English: 'Youth died when a grenade exploded in the bathroom of his home. Oscar Lopez Ortega, 17 years old, was found dead after an explosion was reported inside his home, police units reached the scene at 8:45 PM yesterday. The home is located in zone 2, modern neighborhood, near Carmen hill..."
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Good grief. Even Pong has more plot than Tetris.
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I'm assuming that he just made a fake grenade to fuck with /b/.
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Not having your infrastructure prepared for heavy rain.
Edit: is Discourse autoplaying this with sound for anyone else? Sorry.
[de-oneboxed - booomzilla]
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Not having your infrastructure prepared for heavy rain.
Just keep the boats on standby in a side tunnel.
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is Discourse autoplaying this with sound for anyone else?
Something was playing with sound. Since you ask, I assume it was this. (I wasn't scrolled down far enough to actually see it.)
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I hope he put enough effort into it so we can put his ass on the Darwin awards short list.
Based on the pictures, I'd say he put more than enough effort into it. Even if it didn't go bang, he deserves an Honorable Mention for trying so hard.
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Edit: is Discourse autoplaying this with sound for anyone else? Sorry.
Still ... I'm not liking it for that reason ....
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It's certainly in the right thread.
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More bots.
Top-comment heatmaps for threads.
Pretty much anything else that I've ever said that we need here.
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How about THIS trail of WTF-ery?
[Snip the hand grenade handling SOP document]
We could refer him to the advice we gave blakey about dealing with his cast iron pipe. I think the personal protective equipment recommendation still stands if you're planning to hit a hand grenade with a big hammer.
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I would recommend a somewhat, um, higher level of PPE if you're planning to hit a hand grenade with a big hammer than if you're planning to cut a pipe with a sawzall. Actually, I would recommend not hitting a hand grenade with a big hammer, regardless of PPE, but that would be too much like common sense for some people.
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I would recommend a somewhat, um, higher level of PPE if you're planning to hit a hand grenade with a big hammer
No disrespect but you are not a professional. The hand grenade guy really should take it into his local hardware store, tell them what he's planning to do and get their expert advice regarding PPE.
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Ugh. Is there any way we can get rid of that autoplay video?
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The hand grenade guy really should take it into his local hardware store, tell them what he's planning to do and get their expert advice regarding PPE.
Because those guys need a laugh as much as the rest of us.
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Because those guys need a laugh as much as the rest of us.
Not to mention half a day off following the evacuation
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WHAT THE FUCK why is this browser tab PLAYING WHITE NOISE FUCCCCK
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i summon @sockbot and @summonbot to post here to push the post with the autoplaying video off the most recent page of posts so that it stops playing when i load this thread.
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@accalia has summoned me, and so I appear. <t254d1412216518843>
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hmm... summonbot seems to be down. pardon me for summoning more bots but that autoplaying video really is a bad idea that belongs in the evil ideas thread.
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No point in not trying to speed it up, since the bots seem to be napping.
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Because post 2632 has a video embedded which autoplays - and has sound.