They Fixed It



  • I was browsing old shit out of boredom, where I found these comments about the performance of Firefox 1.5 in the year 2005.

    It appears Mozilla's stratgey has been "wait for Moore's law to catch up with our memory usage".



  • @dhromed said:

    It appears Mozilla's stratgey has been "wait for Moore's law to catch up with our memory usage".

    Worked for Microsoft back in the 90s.



  • I invented mayonnaise.



  • @boomzilla said:

    I invented mayonnaise.
    Thank you.



  • @dhromed said:

    I was browsing old shit out of boredom, where I found these comments about the performance of Firefox 1.5 in the year 2005.

    It appears Mozilla's stratgey has been "wait for Moore's law to catch up with our memory usage".

    At one time, Mozilla developers tried to claim that Firefox's memory usage was a feature not a bug, i.e., Firefox is caching stuff so it can be displayed faster when you need it.  Which would have been great, if it was actually true.

    All Mozilla/Netscape products have had strange memory behaviors.  For example, with the old pre-Firefox Netscape browser I noticed that if I started the program and then immediately minimized it without loading a web page, memory usage would drop to less than 1 MB.  But then, just sitting there, with nothing but a blank page, memory use would slowly creep upward to several megabytes. I always wondered "what the fuck is it doing?"

     


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @El_Heffe said:

    All Mozilla/Netscape products have had strange memory behaviors.  For example, with the old pre-Firefox Netscape browser I noticed that if I started the program and then immediately minimized it without loading a web page, memory usage would drop to less than 1 MB.  But then, just sitting there, with nothing but a blank page, memory use would slowly creep upward to several megabytes. I always wondered "what the fuck is it doing?"
    Was this in Windows or something else? Not to put too fine a point on it, the memory usage metrics on Windows are rather different to what most others use. (I'm guessing they show the physical RAM usage by default, at which point you're really just observing how the OS paging and prefetching algorithm works and interacts with the window state.)



  • @dkf said:

    Was this in Windows or something else? Not to put too fine a point on it, the memory usage metrics on Windows are rather different to what most others use. (I'm guessing they show the physical RAM usage by default, at which point you're really just observing how the OS paging and prefetching algorithm works and interacts with the window state.)

    Even that, it only applies to Windows 2000 and XP. They scrapped the "optimization" where the OS would attempt to page-out minimized programs on for Vista and newer. (Since by that point, memory was large enough and HDs fast enough and people's alt-tabbing frequent enough that it was really an anti-optimization anyway. Good riddance.)



  • @boomzilla said:

    I invented mayonnaise.

    Really? I thought that was Al Gore.



  • @Ibix said:

    @boomzilla said:
    I invented mayonnaise.

    Really? I thought that was Al Gore.

    Definitely not. Read the tags for a hint.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Even that, it only applies to Windows 2000 and XP. They scrapped the "optimization" where the OS would attempt to page-out minimized programs on for Vista and newer. (Since by that point, memory was large enough and HDs fast enough and people's alt-tabbing frequent enough that it was really an anti-optimization anyway. Good riddance.)

    Not 100% true, even today there is no computer with enough memory for Vista



  • @TimeBandit said:

    @blakeyrat said:
    Even that, it only applies to Windows 2000 and XP. They scrapped the "optimization" where the OS would attempt to page-out minimized programs on for Vista and newer. (Since by that point, memory was large enough and HDs fast enough and people's alt-tabbing frequent enough that it was really an anti-optimization anyway. Good riddance.)

    Not 100% true, even today there is no computer with enough memory for Vista

    Ha ha! It's funny because it's completely untrue and retarded!


    No, wait, that's the opposite of funny. Like when your doctor tells you that anti-biotics still aren't proven to make people better.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    Like when your doctor tells you that anti-biotics still aren't proven to make people better.

    Scientific study results

    ...

    Fatality rate

    With antibioticsWithout antibioticsWith placebo
    With disease100%100%100%
    Without disease100%100%100%
    With placebo100%100%100%


  • @Ben L. said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    Like when your doctor tells you that anti-biotics still aren't proven to make people better.

    Scientific study results

    ...

    Fatality rate

    With antibioticsWithout antibioticsWith placebo
    With disease100%100%100%
    Without disease100%100%100%
    With placebo100%100%100%

    "Live is a sexually-transmitted condition that's always fatal."



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @TimeBandit said:
    Not 100% true, even today there is no computer with enough memory for Vista

    Ha ha! It's funny because it's completely untrue and retarded!

    No, it was funny because it's nearly the perfect blakeytroll. Lemme see if I can improve it:

    Not 100% true, even today there is no computer with enough memory for Vista, unless you only run java adblocker apps.



  • @Ben L. said:

    With disease / Without disease /
    With placebo
    Wait... there are placebo diseases?!



  • @Anonymouse said:

    @Ben L. said:

    With disease / Without disease /
    With placebo
    Wait... there are placebo diseases?!

    Yeah, the trendy ones right now are in the autism spectrum. Still, I'm making a gamble and buying up property in the Cluster B personality disorders, because I think that's where the Next Big Thing will be.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @Anonymouse said:
    @Ben L. said:
    With disease / Without disease /
    With placebo
    Wait... there are placebo diseases?!
    Yeah, the trendy ones right now are in the autism spectrum. Still, I'm making a gamble and buying up property in the Cluster B personality disorders, because I think that's where the Next Big Thing will be.
    Just be careful with that, remember that big "female hysteria" crash...

     



  • @Anonymouse said:

    @morbiuswilters said:

    @Anonymouse said:
    @Ben L. said:
    With disease / Without disease /
    With placebo
    Wait... there are placebo diseases?!
    Yeah, the trendy ones right now are in the autism spectrum. Still, I'm making a gamble and buying up property in the Cluster B personality disorders, because I think that's where the Next Big Thing will be.
    Just be careful with that, remember that big "female hysteria" crash...

    I was long vibrating electric motors, though, so I made a killing overall.


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