Mini-WTF: Half-Life 2: Episode Two closed captions



  • Before we start:

    I have not modified any game files. I have closed captions turned off.



  •  Well, my (hard)copy never did that, but I haven't played it in several years, so maybe it's a recent Steam fuckup.



  • It's an encoding error probably, hence all the mathematical symbols and just plain invalid characters.



  • So did you try the "verify local files" thing?



  • Geez, and I thought this was a forum full of programmers. You know, the problem solving kind.

    SPOILER BELOW

    echo -n 'antlion grub' | iconv --from-code=utf-8 --to-code=utf-16be | iconv --from-code=utf-16le --to-code=utf-8; echo
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  • @Ben L. said:

    I thought this was a forum full of programmers. You know, the problem solving kind.

    No, you want "Coding Related Help & Questions" down the corridor. This is Abuse.



  • @flabdablet said:

    @Ben L. said:
    I thought this was a forum full of programmers. You know, the problem solving kind.

    No, you want "Coding Related Help & Questions" down the corridor. This is Abuse.

    AND NOW,

    THE PROGRAMMER SKETCH.

    THE PROGRAMMER SKETCH.

    UP THERE.

    UP THERE.

    UP THERE.

    UP THERE.



  • @dhromed said:

     Well, my (hard)copy never did that, but I haven't played it in several years, so maybe it's a recent Steam fuckup.

    Same here. I don't think the closed captions even played in the menu, but I may be wrong. I didn't spend much time there.

    Does anyone else think that having the closed captions on was a bit like cheating? You could tell what was coming without having to pay much attention to the sounds.

     



  •  I never used captions on account of having fully functional ears.



  • @Zecc said:

    Does anyone else think that having the closed captions on was a bit like cheating? You could tell what was coming without having to pay much attention to the sounds.

     

    That's why there's a separate "subtitle" option - it gives me the dialogue but not the spoilery other noises. :)

     



  • @dhromed said:

    I never used captions on account of having fully functional ears.
    I used them occasionally, if there was something that I couldn't understand and just had to know what it was. CP in combat comes to mind. Or zombies. But generally I agree with you.

    Now that I think about it, there's a part early on in the original where someone (I think Barney) says "They're flooding the area up ahead with Manhacks!" I was very confused, because I heard "Manhats" and I was thinking it was slang for the barnacles, which didn't really make any sense. But the CC cleared that up for me, many playthroughs later.



  • @mikeTheLiar said:

    CP in combat comes to mind.
     

    What's CP?

    @mikeTheLiar said:

    I heard "Manhats"
     

    That's pretty funny.



  • @dhromed said:

    What's CP?

    In the context of HL2, Civil Protection.

    In the context of the seedy underbelly of the internet, it's something else entirely.



  • Hey dhromed, I see you've crossed the completely arbitrary 'landmark' of 10,007 posts.



  • It felt good.



  • @mikeTheLiar said:

    @dhromed said:
    What's CP?

    In the context of HL2, Civil Protection.

     

    But zombies don't say words....

     



  • @dhromed said:

    But zombies don't say words....
    But how can you be SURE until you check the closed captions?!?!?!?!?!?



  •  huaa HUAAA AAAUUGHGHG huhh... uhhh

     Come to think of it, there is one whining sample where the victim seems to be uttering some words that are muffled by the crab hat.



  • @dhromed said:

    Come to think of it, there is one whining sample where the victim seems to be uttering some words that are muffled by the crab hat.

    From http://sectorw.wikia.com/wiki/Standard_Zombie

    Playing parts of a Half-Life 2 zombie's sound files backwards will produce extremely disturbing yells of pain. The reversed cries have been interpreted as "Oh, God help! Help me!" and "Get it off me!" If set on fire, the victims may say things that might be interpreted as "Why, why, why!?", "Help, God... help! Help me!", "Gaaah!", "Gaaaah, I'm on fire! Gaaaaah!", "My life's fading!", "My eyes sting! Gaaah!", "Put it out!" and even heard as "Yabba, put it out please! GRAAAAGH!"



  • There is a certain type of person who plays games created for Windows, on Linux, and then complains on an online forum - and not to the game's creator - when inevitably encountering bugs.

    That person is colloquially known as "a fucking moron". In the context of TDWTF, that person is Ben L. Don't be Ben L.



  • @Ben L. said:

    Before we start:

    FWIW, subtitles use the language selected for Steam itself, not for the game.



  • @The_Assimilator said:

    There is a certain type of person who plays games created for Windows, on Linux, and then complains on an online forum - and not to the game's creator - when inevitably encountering bugs.

    That person is colloquially known as "a fucking moron". In the context of TDWTF, that person is Ben L. Don't be Ben L.

     

    I can't tell from the screenshot in the first post if he's playing the Windows version via Wine, or the Linux version that was released earlier this year.

    ...you were aware that Steam is available for Linux and most of Valve's games were ported, right?

    Incidentally, Valve has bugtrackers on GitHub; [url=https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues?labels=&page=1&state=open]Linux games[/url] would be an appropriate place for this bug.  They also have separate issue trackers for [url=https://github.com/ValveSoftware/halflife/issues?state=open]GoldSrc[/url] (Hale-Life 1 based games) and [url=https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games/issues?state=open]Source 1 Multiplayer Games[/url] (HL2: Deathmatch, Day of Defeat: Source, Counter-Strike: Source, and Team Fortress 2)



  • @powerlord said:

    @The_Assimilator said:

    There is a certain type of person who plays games created for Windows, on Linux, and then complains on an online forum - and not to the game's creator - when inevitably encountering bugs.

    That person is colloquially known as "a fucking moron". In the context of TDWTF, that person is Ben L. Don't be Ben L.

     

    I can't tell from the screenshot in the first post if he's playing the Windows version via Wine, or the Linux version that was released earlier this year.

    ...you were aware that Steam is available for Linux and most of Valve's games were ported, right?

    Incidentally, Valve has bugtrackers on GitHub; Linux games would be an appropriate place for this bug.  They also have separate issue trackers for GoldSrc (Hale-Life 1 based games) and Source 1 Multiplayer Games (HL2: Deathmatch, Day of Defeat: Source, Counter-Strike: Source, and Team Fortress 2)

    You mean the Half-Life 2 Linux beta which doesn't exist?



  • @Spectre said:

    FWIW, subtitles use the language selected for Steam itself, not for the game.
    Though in the current case, it seems to be "English" on both.

    Anyway, I hate this tendency. It used to be a time, both on Steam and on video game consoles (such as the GameCube, the only relevant console I owned), that a game's language defaulted to the platform's language and then you could set it to use a different one. And life was good, allowing you to play a game with good localization in your country's language, and another in the source language.

    Then someone decided it was a waste of dollars, and had it just use the platform's language. SoulCalibur 2 on GameCube and Portal 2 on Steam both have this misfeature (though it's further complicated in Portal 2 by having two differnent language settings: One for the voices (specific to the game) and one for the text (by setting Steam's language). It sucks.



  • @Ben L. said:

    @powerlord said:

    @The_Assimilator said:

    There is a certain type of person who plays games created for Windows, on Linux, and then complains on an online forum - and not to the game's creator - when inevitably encountering bugs.

    That person is colloquially known as "a fucking moron". In the context of TDWTF, that person is Ben L. Don't be Ben L.

     

    I can't tell from the screenshot in the first post if he's playing the Windows version via Wine, or the Linux version that was released earlier this year.

    ...you were aware that Steam is available for Linux and most of Valve's games were ported, right?

    Incidentally, Valve has bugtrackers on GitHub; Linux games would be an appropriate place for this bug.  They also have separate issue trackers for GoldSrc (Hale-Life 1 based games) and Source 1 Games (HL2 and its episodes, Portal, HL2: Deathmatch, Day of Defeat: Source, Counter-Strike: Source, Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead, and Left 4 Dead 2.)

    You mean the Half-Life 2 Linux beta which doesn't exist?

     

    I'm seeing Linux bug reports for HL2 and its episode on Valve's Source-1-Games issue tracker.  Pretty sure it does exist.

     



  • @powerlord said:

    I'm seeing Linux bug reports for HL2 and its episode on Valve's Source-1-Games issue tracker.  Pretty sure it does exist.

    Yeah, that's because Valve opened a beta TODAY. Note that this topic was posted last month.


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