Windows is too easy
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There is some update to install on my Windows 7 machine. I try to apply it but it fails with an error # 8007000D.
Searching for a solution, I get told to download the Windows Update Troubleshooter, which I do.
After running it, I get this
It fixed multiple errors but failed to fix the ONE problem I wanted it to fix
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ONE problem
Well, at least it can read the Update History properly, though I would have expected it to have a flag of "Detected" instead...
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Not helpful, but mine did that for about 6 months. I ended up doing a reinstall to fix it followed by an entire day of updates to get it up to date....
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Go to the update history and find the update that failed. Right click, copy details, and paste them into Notepad. Copy the update's KB# and search for it on Google. Go to the Microsoft site and manually download and install it.
That usually gets the one that had failed to install successfully; I don't know why automatic updates fail on some of them.
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At least you didn't install Windows 7 and immediately brick Windows Update without even knowing how. I had to reinstall the OS twice that day and then not touch it until it had fully updated. Not to mention I spent over an hour trying to fix it before I decided to just reinstall a second time.
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8007000D: The data is invalid.
Manual install sounds like a good idea to try.
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My personal favorite was when my firewall software disabled windows firewall and then windows update stopped working.
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There is some update to install on my Windows 7 machine.
It wasn't Windows 10 was it?
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I don't know why automatic updates fail on some of them.
It's because Windows Update is a complicator's gloves solution with far, far too many moving parts.
Windows Update fetches its updates using Background Intelligent Transfer Service (BITS) which, if you've been in this industry for any length of time, you will immediately recognize from the name alone as a Broken Stupid Transfer Service.
BITS does a reasonably good job of not stomping on other uses for your network connection, but that's about all it's good at. It downloads files in little chunks (making any caching HTTP proxy virtually useless unless you configure it specially) and occasionally it will fuck up one of those transfers but fail to notice (probably because it uses a Jet database internally to keep track of what it's up to). That results in a corrupted update, which will always fail to install, but which Windows will never bother trying to re-fetch because BITS said everything was Jes' Fine.
Windows Update will then proceed to retry installing that broken update forever until you deliver the appropriate scientific slap upside its head.
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I'm telling you, this fuckin Linux POS is not ready for desktop use. Proof : these instructions are full of magic command line incantations.
How the hell are you supposed to keep this thing working without being a system engineer with a diploma from MIT and a specialization in rocket science !
for example, at step 4 :
sc.exe sdset bits D:(A;;CCLCSWRPWPDTLOCRRC;;;SY)(A;;CCDCLCSWRPWPDTLOCRSDRCWDWO;;;BA)(A;;CCLCSWLOCRRC;;;AU)(A;;CCLCSWRPWPDTLOCRRC;;;PU)
WTF is this shit, Chinese mixed with Russian then converted to Sumerian, back and forth 3 times ??
Then at step 6, you have to type
regsvr32.exe *something*.dll
32 times with different dll name !
You must be kidding me. It would be less painful to just reinstall the damned thing.The worst part is this is a critical part of the OS, not some obscure piece that almost nobody use. It's the service keeping the OS up-to-date so you don't get hacked. It's imperative that it is kept in functioning order !
Fuck this shit, I just can't suffer this anymore.
At least a Microsoft OS would have a nice GUI for this, not some fuckin command line crap that nobody understand. Come on, we are not in 1970 anymore, drop the stupid CLI with those cryptic commands.
Linux will never be used by anybody serious until those fucktard open source moron get their act together and start writing a decent GUI to admin this crappy OS. Or even better, write the damned thing properly in the first place so it doesn't barf all over itself then commit suicide.
Oh, wait...
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Getting Windows-based shit to work on WINE can be a gigantic pain when using Linux, yeah.
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It wasn't Windows 10 was it?
Corporate license doesn't get Win10 crap pushed to it, at least not yet.
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Probably because your firewall software didn't allow Windows Update through.
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@PJH said:
It wasn't Windows 10 was it?
Corporate license doesn't get Win10 crap pushed to it, at least not yet.Win7 Professional computers joined to domains now do as of a few weeks ago. Enterprise edition is still left alone (thankfully)...
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occasionally it will fuck up one of those transfers but fail to notice (probably because it uses a Jet database internally to keep track of what it's up to)
Jet database?
No wonder.
these instructions are full of magic command line incantations.
That's because for some reason you skipped right over the "To automatically reset Windows Update components, click Run now, and then follow the on-screen instruction." instructions, and went straight to the manual instructions for power users.
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went straight to the manual instructions for power users
I am a power user, so what is your point ?
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I am a power user, so what is your point ?
Even power users should try doing things the easy way first.
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I am a power user
You said you wanted a decent GUI though.
so what is your point ?
There was one; you scrolled past it.
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@TimeBandit said:
I am a power user
You said you wanted a decent GUI though.
Power user ≠CLI fanatic
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I tried the Windows Update Troubleshooter first. Didn't I ?
That was no help at all.In fact, I ran it 3 times, and every time it found and "fixed" the same errors.
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But did you try the "Microsoft Fix-It" troubleshooter that was suggested on that page before you scrolled down to the manual steps?
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"Microsoft Fix-It" troubleshooter
Is it not the same troubleshooter? Why would they have two different troubleshooters that have the same thing?
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Is it not the same troubleshooter?
no, it isn't
Why would they have two different troubleshooters that have the same thing?
ABI differences pre-Vista
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Presumably not the same troubleshooter, and not the same thing. Otherwise they'd have just said "Run the Windows Update troubleshooter" and not offered the Microsoft Fix-It download.
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I tried the Windows Update Troubleshooter first. Didn't I ?
I don't know. Did you? Did you say you did?
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Is it not the same troubleshooter? Why would they have two different troubleshooters that have the same thing?
There's fix-it troubleshooters on a bunch of KB pages. I always assumed each one was designed to only deal with the problem described on that particular page.
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Just tried it and guess what....
It's the exact same troubleshooter !
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Read the original post
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Read the original post
Madness!
But did you run the fix-it troubleshooter before descending to the command-line?
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Yes. 3 times. And every time it found and "fixed" the exact same problems.
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Ah. Well, in that case you should contact your system administrator.
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Just tried it and guess what....
It's the exact same troubleshooter !I just tried I got an error code from Windows Update (Windows 7; "The error code doesn't exist" since I couldn't find 8007000D in the list). That suggested downloading an automatic fix, WindowsUpdateDiagnostic.diagcab. It says it troubleshoots Windows Update and Windows Network Diagnostics:
On the other hand, the automatic troubleshooter that @flabdablet's link (Automatically reset Windows Update components) wants me to download is also named WindowsUpdateDiagnostic.diagcab, but it says it troubleshoots Windows Update and Background Intelligent Transfer Service (which is what @flabdablet said probably borked your update):
So, which troubleshooter did you run?
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No need to. I just ran the fix-it troubleshooter for the 4th time, and this time it fixed it !
So back to Windows Update, try to update again, and...
it failed again.
Try the update another time, just for fun.
Now it worked !
Computers are machines based on logic. Except when using MS software
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WindowsUpdateDiagnostic.diagcab
Sorry, I typoed that when I said
Why would they have two different troubleshooters that have the same thing?
I meant to type "same name".No idea how that happened, since "name" was in the stream of consciousness and went into the buffer. I blame concurrent discussions happening on another Thread.
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Microsoft get's an F for naming two different tools with the exact same name.
They should combine those two tools into one.
B.t.w. I ran both.
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I blame concurrent discussions happening on another Thread
Multi-threading is hard
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Multi-threading is hard
You don't have to tell ME that! It's hard enough programming things that are multi-thread, much worse when your system abstracts that aspect but doesn't actually schedule them sanely. It's even worse when specific workarounds were built to enable the stupid action tests like "rub stomach in a circular motion with one hand while patting top of head with the other hand".
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So, which troubleshooter did you run?
Did someone call for a Troubleshooter? brandishes laser pistol
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Computers are machines based on logic. Except when using MS software.
Then they're machines based on race conditions.
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Do I have to tell 98SE that?
What are you you wippersnapper talking about? Everything past 95 was useless.
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Active Desktop.
I wrote a program to emulate Active Desktop.
It was kinda glitchy though, and there is no such thing as "offline mode"...Will upload if found.
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Will upload if found.
Aha! Found it! (Well, the compiled debug version, NFC where the source went).
ActiveDesktop.exe (21.5 KB)
Usage: Right click the notification icon to add an item or exit. Each item can be resized (or closed) by clicking the dot-hamburger on the top-right corner of the item.
Due to the way it was implemented, each item is displayed in an IE container, probably in Compatibility Mode.Have... fun?
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Active Desktop. So much fail.
I used active desktop to set one of our clients' promotional flash movies (which featured a clock, so it wasn't utterly useless) as my desktop background and used it that way for years.
I was sad when the feature went away.
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feature went away.
Never fear, @Tsaukpaetra is here! (See above post).
It's a really shallow attempt at reverse engineering, but it (mostly) works? Kinda?
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I don't have the promotional flash .swf anymore.