Fuck you, Dell. Because of your root CA with free matching private key that you put on everyone's systems.
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Bit over a grand? That's no way a "cheapy laptop". I'd expect something pretty solid for that kind of money.
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That's no way a "cheapy laptop".
it is not.
I'd expect something pretty solid for that kind of money.
it is very solid, what with the magnesium chassis.and the bits inside are pretty swell too. You've seen the specs.
2x USB-c ports and 2x USB3 ports means it'll connect to just about anything (including firewire and lightning things witht eh right adaptor)
that 4x3 aspect ratio screen is pretty nice too, nice high DPI. and the keyboard is packlit for typing in the dark if you're not a touchtyper.
Specifically, it's got an Apple keyboard, so ick.
that too.
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yes, but it's apple, so ick
I'm still not sure why Apple even got brought up - but my point was that the equivalently priced Apple laptop wasn't an i3 with 2GB RAM.
also doesn't the air have like no USB ports at all and no card reader slot either?
Two USB ports, a Thunderbolt port and an SDXC reader which I suspect is a half-depth slot or whatever.
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an SDXC reader which I suspect is a half-depth slot or whatever.
which means it doesn't count.
like i said, full depth counts, partial depth is an abomination unto nuggin.
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@loopback0 said:
an SDXC reader which I suspect is a half-depth slot or whatever.
which means it doesn't count.
like i said, full depth counts, partial depth is an abomination unto nuggin.
To you, sure.
It's possible to buy SD cards the depth of the slot so they sit flush so it's a small issue.I know you don't like Apple or want an Apple computer. I'm not trying to convince you, I'm just pointing out that the whole "OMGZ Apple make expensive laptops with low spec" point is silly.
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To you, sure.
not just to me. a partial depth card slot is a fuck you to consumers. You want to permanently expand your storage using the full size SD card you already have? Fuck you! no! you have to buy this special adaptor and put a micro SD card slot in instead!We could have made the SD card slot full depth, we've got the room in the chassis, but we decided not to because fuck you.
We could have put a micro SD slot in directly, but we decided not to, just to say fuck you
and we're apple! so now the other manufacturers will copy us because we're cool, except they won't use exactly the same depth slot because if they do we'll sue them for patent violations because FUCK YOU!
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Which you should do anyway
I was hoping you'd end this sentence with "'cause you should install Debian", so I took out , but then you had to let me down.
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and we're apple! so now the other manufacturers will copy us because we're cool
Other manufacturers were doing this before Apple did AFAIK. I don't think I've ever had a laptop with a full-depth SD card slot.a partial depth card slot is a fuck you to consumers.
Do most people keep the card in permanently? Are most users using SD cards to permanently expand storage, or is this a minority?We could have put a micro SD slot in directly, but we decided not to, just to say fuck you
Then you'd just have moaned there wasn't an SD slot at all. You still couldn't have used the SD card you already have.
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I don't think I've ever had a laptop with a full-depth SD card slot.
for the past five or seven years or so i've been hard pressed to find one with a full depth slot, but before then... yeah every laptop either didn't have the card slot at all or had a full depth one.
Do most people keep the card in permanently? Are most users using SD cards to permanently expand storage, or is this a minority?
joe random public? no joe random public doesn't care. your technical user cares. you technical user cares all the more when you fecking solder the hard drive to the main board so their storage is only upgradeable through that fecking half depth SD card slot!
maybe i am overreacting about this, but it's something i'm passionate about damnit!
Then you'd just have moaned there wasn't an SD slot at all. You still couldn't have used the SD card you already have.
no, because if they did that they'd be using a proper standard format!
also i have tons of microSD cards as well.
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That's different. Technical users don't count.
fecking hell we don't!
it's attudes like that (along with repeated, culpable child labour law violations that they get away with because they are fecking working through contractors to shift the liability) that make my hate companies like Apple!
<temper tantrum>
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maybe i am overreacting about this
Maybe.
your technical user cares.
I don't. I'd hazard a guess more technical users don't care than do.you technical user cares all the more when you fecking solder the hard drive to the main board
Isn't the SSD in the Pixel soldered too?
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That was a Jeff joke...
Breathe, Cali, breathe.
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fecking hell we don't!
it's attudes like that (along with repeated, culpable child labour law violations that they get away with because they are fecking working through contractors to shift the liability) that make my hate companies like Apple!
<temper tantrum>
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Isn't the SSD in the Pixel soldered too?
yes, BUT it has a FULL DEPTH SD card slot.
you know, the kind i've been ranting about this whole time!
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You want to permanently expand your storage using the full size SD card you already have?
No, not really. It only made sense on the EeePC because it had no other storage.
solder the hard drive to the main board so their storage is only upgradeable through that fecking half depth SD card
Maybe that's a good clue that you should've got one of the cheaper, Chromebook-priced chromebooks.
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@accalia said:
You want to permanently expand your storage using the full size SD card you already have?
No, not really. It only made sense on the EeePC because it had no other storage.
You mustn't be a technical user then. Technical users care about that.
yes, BUT it has a FULL DEPTH SD card slot.
The Macbook Air has a bigger SSD in the first place, so it's even less likely to be a problem anyone encounters.Every laptop has a compromise in it somewhere - I bet most people care less when that compromise is the depth of their SD card slot.
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I bet most people care less when that compromise is the depth of their SD card slot.
What they really care about is the size of your SD card.
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i have tons of microSD cards as well
Got enough to draw any conclusions about actual real-world speed and reliability across brands? I just got in a little clutch of 16GB Samsung Evos that claim some ridiculous speed but show no sign of being able to achieve it. Still, at well under AU$10 each I can't complain.
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Got enough to draw any conclusions about actual real-world speed and reliability across brands?
probably, but i can't be arsed to actually test them.most of them are tiny calss 4 ones i use in raspberry pis and beaglebone blacks so performance is not the priority, the rest are for longer term storage of things like movies for my tablet so as long as they perform well enough to keep up with watching a movie i'm okay with them.
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full depth counts
I find it so much better when I'm able to insert my SD card fully.... ;)
Do most people keep the card in permanently?
I'm not most people, but I use mine for ReadyBoost. ;)What they really care about is the size of your SD card.
I guess in Crapple's case, not too big, not too small, just incompatible?
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"'cause you should install Gentoo"
That escalated quickly…
Filed under: It's a good thing LFS wasn't mentioned
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I've had dealings with the LFS people in the past. They're idiots who don't seem to pay any meaningful amount of attention to anything you say, but don't otherwise seem too bad.
OTOH, I have seen people seriously using Gentoo as the production OS for their cluster machines.
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I have seen people seriously using Gentoo
I haven't seen people seriously use Linux, like at all. Sure, I've heard about them, I've even talked with allegedly some of them online and then there were those few guys who pose as if they do but I don't trust them.
Filed under: But seriously, I've seen 3 (three) people use Linux exclusively. One of them is an android developer
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but don't otherwise seem too bad.
Don't they have to be retarted? I mean, who'd use LFS in a way other than education?
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OTOH, I have seen people seriously using Gentoo as the production OS for their cluster machines.
But look, compiles now go belgium fast!
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I haven't seen people seriously use Linux, like at all.
And I've got a number of them among my current users. Fortunately, they're happy with Ubuntu (or some variant thereof) so they're not a support headache. Different groups of users have different tendencies to what they prefer, OS-wise.
If you count servers too, everyone is a Linux user in at least some sense as that is the OS run by a majority of servers, especially in cloud environments. You won't see the OS usually, but that's the most common configuration. And of course there's Android in the mobile space.
Linux might not be on many desktops where you are, but it is definitely running the world. Except for Gentoo users, who are still recompiling things…
Don't they have to be retarted? I mean, who'd use LFS in a way other than education?
Didn't say what they were using it for. Never bothered to ask.
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I haven't seen people seriously use Linux, like at all
What does "seriously use" mean to you? I use it at home and at work. Most of our servers run it too.
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mean to you?
I think he mean serious the same way Apple does: For playing music and drawing videos (or something).
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I don't know what drawing videos means, but I watch them and listen to music using Linux, among other things.
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means
I was trying to channel Apple and spout nonsense about doing "real things" or something. Glad to see it failed...
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What does "seriously use" mean to you? I use it at home and at work. Most of our servers run it too.
Yeah, but you're not people.
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What does "seriously use" mean to you?
Day-to-day, with no need to dual boot.
I use it at home and at work.
That's nice. What distro?
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I bought a Samsung dhromebook from Best Buy before Discourse was a thing. If you take the number of times Discourse has broken and multiply it by zero, that's how many times my dhromebook has broken.
Now, the SAMSUNG logo on the outside of the case did mostly fall off, but it was basically the only poorly made part of it. It was just some cheap plastic letters glued on, basically.
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If you take the number of times Discourse has broken and multiply it by zero
for some values : ∞ × 0 ≠ 0
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I didn't say the theoretical maximum ways Discourse can break. Discourse has only broken a finite number of times so far.
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Hmmm. The Acer price point is good, and the things look nice, but both the smartphone and the laptop I've bought have irritating problems that should have been caught by QA on the prototypes.
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And I've got a number of them among my current users.
That's nice.
If you count servers too,
Oh, hate this argument. And the android one to. When talking about Linux adoption no one cares about android and servers, it's home users and Linux's ability to fulfill day-to-day needs (with possible dual boot solely for gaming purposes, in those cases Windows installation can be treated as a game console).
Don't get me wrong, I love Linux, I've been using it on and off since as soon as I became old and adventurous enough to stop reinstalling pirated XP, hoping that this time, if I install everything in the right order it will run better on my lousy desktop <abbr title="Oh, and testing anti-virus software, I've even written some "reviews" for a very amateur website.">ad. Then, I was an active user of the largest Mandriva forum in Poland for around 3 years, right till the time when Ubuntu's reign started and Mandriva's life ended and there was no one to help anymore, so around 2011.
But I could make never the full switch to Linux as my only OS, even if it was only due to games, it soon turned out to be a full time use, since rebooting every time I want something else done was too tedious a task. And now it's Visual Studio that's keeping me there.
So when I said that I know only a few people who were able to switch to Linux, there was no malice in what I was saying, just a statement of the facts.
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Oh, hate this argument.
I have three servers I frequently SSH into to write code on, two Debian and one Ubuntu. I run a
Cdhrome OS laptop, which runs on the Linux kernel. The only thing I don't do on Linux is video gaming, and I only have one game I've played recently that doesn't run natively on Linux: Guild Wars 2. And technically it doesn't run natively on Mac either, but they have a "Mac client" that's just an old version of Wine packaged with the game's installer.
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Yeah, but you don't count, you've got long curly hair.
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I could because I had do that myself.
It took me 3 days to complete the
installationcompilation, yet it's a good learning experience on how Linux workswhen you're out of job.
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I could because I had do that myself
You had to?! What kind of sick freak would force another human being to do a LFS?!
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@dkf said:
I have seen people seriously using Gentoo
I haven't seen people seriously use Linux, like at all. Sure, I've heard about them, I've even talked with allegedly some of them online and then there were those few guys who pose as if they do but I don't trust them.
Filed under: But seriously, I've seen 3 (three) people use Linux exclusively. One of them is an android developer
We only have a single Windows machine at work. At home I dual boot. By which I mean I still didn't even install drivers on my Windows install...
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Need errata here.
Oh fuck, and I didn't even notice it's "d" not "t". Oh holy fuck.
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Oh, hate this argument. And the android one to.
Ah! That's because it's a winning argument!
Seriously, Linux is not just about desktop/laptop systems. Nor is any other OS (except OSX because Mac servers these days are a cross between a joke and a sighting of bigfoot, and iOS is not OSX) so claiming that a gaming console is a version of Windows is also cromulent. Computers are not just about desktop/laptop systems.