Discourse without Docker?
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You really want me to explain my point?
Thanks for confirming that VS was a red herring. Unless it also effectively installs a VM that emulates another operating system. Also, you're still begging the question with VS. What are its dependencies? Can you get them elsewhere?
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maybe they're talking about VS for linux
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shaddup yu
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Unless it also effectively installs a VM that emulates another operating system.
Which is completely orthogonal to my point. Again:
@boomzilla said:What are its dependencies?
A bunch or runtimes and SDKs spring immediately to mind. There's some other stuff too. There's probably a list somewhere.
@boomzilla said:Can you get them elsewhere?
They exist as separate downloads from MS.
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@RaceProUK said:
You really want me to explain my point?
Thanks for confirming that VS was a red herring. Unless it also effectively installs a VM that emulates another operating system.
Actually it does (for debugging). You have to disable it to get virtualbox to work, since you can only have one vm capable of hosting 64 bit guests at a time apparently.
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how has no one posted yet? i guess he is trying to not move them, even though he really needs to.
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Is ‘he’ short for ‘hedgehog’ here?
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Actually it does (for debugging)
For debugging what? For native and .NET (on Windows), it doesn't need a VM; it hooks into what the OS/.NET provides.For WinPhone though, yes it does install a VM. Or should I say, it doesn't; the WinPhone tools are a separate download ;)
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So, how many installation instructions did i have to wade through to install VS?
And how many different company's instructions would it take to get discourse dockers installed in windows?
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Which is completely orthogonal to my point.
Right. Which seems orthogonal to this whole thing.
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Is ‘he’ short for ‘hedgehog’ here?
it's short for they were posting as an androgenous male/female when i first read anything by them and best guess was male so whatever.
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A bunch or runtimes and SDKs spring immediately to mind.
Do you really need those to get it installed? I agree that you need them to be useful, but that's like calling Discourse plugins dependencies.
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So, how many installation instructions did i have to wade through to install VS?
One.
@darkmatter said:And how many different company's instructions would it take to get discourse dockers installed in windows?
Two: one for Docker, one for Discourse.Of course, if you're installing VS and Xamarin, that's also two.
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Now, Xamarin would be a better analog. But unfortunately you didnt choose that one first.
Finally the goalposts move, we're almost there!
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Do you really need those to get it installed?
Try compile a native C++ Windows app without the Windows SDK.
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Now, Xamarin would be a better analog.
Agreed. But that doesn't make my original point invalid.
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hell, i typed analogy. fucking mobile. whatever though, close enough, and you already quoted it
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Try compile a native C++ Windows app without the Windows SDK.
Yes, I've bitched about this in that past. It always seemed retarded.
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Yes, I've bitched about this in that past. It always seemed retarded.
No more so than needing header packages installed to do Linux development
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No more so than needing header packages installed to do Linux development
Perhaps. But also equally irrelevant?
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OK, now I know you're doing this just to piss me off
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No I'm not! I just can't for the life of me tie this back into a guy complaining that discodevs don't support BSD.
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THAT WASN'T THE POINT I WAS DEBATING!
I told you to re-read the thread. I told you. And you still missed my point.
I'm done here. By all means, carry on; I don't give a shit anymore.
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WinRT I guess? Mostly I just remember having to uninstall it to get discourse ‘running’.
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WinRT I guess? Mostly I just remember having to uninstall it to get discourse ‘running’.
Good luck uninstalling WinRT
But yeah, the WinPhone dev tools install a bunch of WinPhone VMs
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But yeah, the WinPhone dev tools install a bunch of WinPhone VMs
And hyper v iirc. This breaks both vmware and virtual box. And essentially turns your os into a vm. Not disturbing in the least I say. (and it does so without proper warning)
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I thought Hyper-V was a Windows feature?
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Windows feature
Okay, enables it. But it does. Win phone VMs run in hyper v (as far as I remember)
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@JBert said:
You state that as fact when it's actually marketing-speak for "sure it runs, just install a bazilion dependencies".
.... a whole bunch of stuff about VMs that clearly means JBert is talking about how ridiculous it is to consider software that requires running a VM as "supported"
And that makes it different from other complex software, how?
I'm not going to answer that until you confirm that you've read the rest of my post.
Ah right, software is only complex when it needs a VM. I mean, Visual Studio installs about eleventy million dependencies, but it doesn't install a VM, so it must be simple, right?
so basically this entire argument boils down to raceprouk blakeyrats jbert while 10 other wtfers say
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Win phone VMs run in hyper v (as far as I remember)
They do ;)It wouldn't surprise me if you could get the Docker VM running under Hyper-V too; can't be arsed trying it though
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raceprouk blakeyrats jbert
also surprised there isn't blakeyratting badge for when someone picks one specific sentence out of a post to misconstrue and argue pedantically about for the remainder of the topic's life until @boomzilla can't stop himself from chiming in.
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TIL only arguing against points I can legitimately argue against makes me blakeyrat with quills
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Hedgehogs have spines, not quills. Otherwise he would be called 'Quilly Norman'.
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argue
Your definition of this word seems to be the same as my definition of "image macro".
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- The terms are interchangeable
- I'm a hedgehog; I'll call then what I like
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Depends if you want to be the best kind of correct or not (at least according to the good people of hedgehog headquarters)
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No one wants to listen to a bunch of people who get offended for someone else.
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Ones that are mixed with mango and passionfruit, and served over ice?
You could fall in love with an orangutan in there!
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You could fall in love with an orangutan in there!
I prefer bonobo's. They have a sex life that is ... interesting.
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@Mikael_Svahnberg said:
You could fall in love with an orangutan in there!
I prefer bonobo's. They have a sex life that is ... interesting.
Yeah. Not going to google for that.
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I'll summarise: when a bonobo sees something unfamiliar, they fuck it ;)
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Natural next step: GIS "Hedgehogs near Kongo". Result:
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Not going to google for that.
No need ... Wikipedia already has you covered ... in depth
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when a bonobo sees something unfamiliar, they fuck it
an endangered great ape
I see the problem right there. They should focus more on banging familiar things.
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banging familiar things
I think you still skipped the part about masturbation, gay/lesbian action & oral sex.
There is just one monkey more sexually degenerated than the bonobo and those freaks are almost hairless.
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Not tried per se, but now FreeBSD has experimental support for docker . It apparently depends on using the linuxulator ( a sort of compatibility layer that translates linux syscalls into FreeBSD syscall). I wish we had our own version of docker though (and jail(8) > linux containers).
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