Empty Stadium



  • @boomzilla said:

    The problem is that you hate single moms if you dare mention that stuff is easier if there are two parents around. And saying the people should be aware of consequences of things before they do them is just hating on victims for just about anything except crossing SJWs.

    Because the feelings of people who had bad things happen to them are now infinitely more important than understanding our world and trying to help people avoid similar things.

    Apparently they're more important than trying to find solutions for people who have that problem in the first place, too. sigh

    @boomzilla said:

    Yes, it's pretty stupid, but that's one of the ideas that academic feminists are peddling. Seriously, they think that there's no reason for a woman to be heterosexual except because men (and the women they've already coerced) have coerced them to be that way.

    UGH! :headdesk: Have they never figured out that survival of the species is a rather important reason for both men and women to be heterosexual?

    @xaade said:

    Which makes the source of this quote indiscernible."My oppression is better than their oppression. I'm doing it for your own good".They are becoming their own enemy.

    But a house divided cannot stand.

    And it's so much fun to watch when it crumbles.


    I just hope that it crumbles before it becomes Too Big To Fail™.



  • @tarunik said:

    Too Big To Fail™.

    It already is.
    That's ingrained in it's nature.

    This is why it is so extreme to begin with.

    As racism and sexism become less of a problem, the people that made that political charge their life's work, do not have any other useful skillset.

    So naturally, to preserve themselves, they have to say that the racism and sexism is so deeply rooted that microaggressions can come from people without their awareness.

    Now we NEED these SJW to expose the microaggressions for us to fix.

    The problem to this shift follows.

    1. They have to assign this microaggression to the worth of a person. Men are the problem, men can't understand, etc. It is judging people, instead of judging actions. By judging I mean: applying sentencing, or applying worth to a person. Judging is not informing someone of their mistakes..
    2. It is non-falsifiable. There is no way to test whether a person is racist or sexist anymore, because any action can subjectively be a microaggression. Things as simply as having pork at a venue is a microaggression if a Muslim or Jew is present. But putting a cross in a jar of urine is not.

    And because of those two things, people have become unnerved and distrustful of all mentions of injustice.

    So in fact, couch warriors are making it harder to solve problems of injustice.

    It is in fact word for word, crying wolf.



  • @xaade said:

    @me said:
    blah blah Central Booking blah blah

    Maybe because...

    I'm sure that reasonable solutions are rather limited.

    I see you've grabbed the red herring...

    My point though is that... actually I'm not sure what my point is after... oh, this,...

    Policing Baltimore is very very tough, and some¹ part of it is because basic stuff seems impossible to do correctly - and then the street cop and the people on the street are left holding the bag.

    ¹It's a big part, but how big and why?? Dunno.


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    @ijij said:

    Policing Baltimore is very very tough, and some¹ part of it is because basic stuff seems impossible to do correctly - and then the street cop and the people on the street are left holding the bag.

    My wife walked into the room earlier and talked about a previous case, similar to the current guy. Supposedly, they did a "rough ride" where they didn't restrain him (e.g., seat belt) and did some crazy driving. Other guy was paralyzed, died of pneumonia. Originally there was an award of $7M or so, reduced on appeal to ~$200K. I'm not aware that officers involved were fired / prosecuted.

    Supposedly there's another witness (concurent arrestee) to the current spark saying that the guy was resisting, etc, inside the van. So not the same. I have no clue as to the credibility there, but this sort of thing is something for which there is clearly no excuse and should be prosecuted (which I don't know if it was in the past).



  • @xaade said:

    I want to be able to say whatever the fuck I want, and not be criticized on it. I only want to have responses from people who are going to circle-jerk with me.

    (checks rest of thread)

    All righty then! Achievement unlocked.


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    @flabdablet said:

    All righty then!

    I don't really blame you for surrendering to superior arguments.



  • Bless your heart.


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    @flabdablet said:

    Bless your heart.

    Indeed



  • That seems to be the current state of knowledge/rumor...

    I'm deliberately not speculating on particulars.

    But w.r.t. the particulars - the family's lawyer, who in the past has played the part of ambulance-chasing, grandstanding shyster, has said that he if fine with the fact that the report that's being handed in tomorrow will be not public and probably shouldn't be and he understands and expects the investigation to take a long time.

    To the best of my recall: "how long should an investigation take? Until it is completely finished."



  • @flabdablet said:

    (checks rest of thread)

    All righty then! Achievement unlocked.

    I'm going toe to toe with them on Disque right now.

    I've made every similar argument there too,

    And that's how they've treated me, with identity politics.

    I've made proven arguments that men are represented with idealized bodies as much as women. All I've gotten back is, "You're not a woman, so you don't understand".

    Only ONE woman has had the gall to say that, "But every athlete looks like He-Man, not every athlete looks like Cinderella". She threw out bullshit, but ended with a valid point, and made it seem like the whole thing is valid. Fallacy of logic.

    But the most of them told me I don't understand women's bodies, when I remarked that the overwhelming majority of women I know have curvy bodies, and would look unbelievably thin in a corset.


  • Garbage Person

    Wait. Maryland has a Republican governor? Because I live there and has studiously ignored the fuck out of everything.

    Also, the state is, by both geography and raw numbers, overwhelmingly Republican. It's just jerrymandered as fuck. Look at the district maps sometime. It's an eye opener.



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    See, this is why I didn't invite you down to the city for our political meetings Monday. ;)

    Geographically there's a lot of Republican territory, but it is very thinly populated vs. The City and the DC suburbs. AA and Howard skew largely Democratic as well.

    The gerrymandering is insane, but in the last re-draw they were largely gerrymandering against other democrats. (Since the Republicans were already screwed - I think was one guy newly aced out of his district, tho.).

    Part of your confusion my lie in that a lot of the Democrats are Machine/Party Democrats who are in a lot of ways conservative. I would expect in your neck of the woods there's a lot of pro-gun people for example.



  • ..and instead of shooting from the hip, tomorrow AM I'll try to dredge up actual numbers... you know, with that Internet thing.



  • @xaade said:

    Only ONE woman has had the gall to say that, "But every athlete looks like He-Man, not every athlete looks like Cinderella".

    Two words: Sumo Wrestler.

    You could fit like 15 Kenyan long-distance runners inside one Japanese Sumo Wrestler, and all 16 of them would be world-class athletes at their chosen sport.


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    @blakeyrat said:

    Two words: Sumo Wrestler.

    Two more: John Kruk.

    I ain't an athlete, lady. I'm a ballplayer.

    http://pitchersandpoets.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/kruk.jpg



  • That's just the beginning.

    Professional weight lifters are usually bear shaped.

    Even olympic swimmers are lean.

    He-Man is probably less than 1% of athletes.

    He's an inverted Triangle ideal to begin with.



  • @xaade said:

    I've made proven arguments that men are represented with idealized bodies as much as women.

    Anyone who cares to argue with that point should look at the World of Warcraft male models -- I simply could not stand to play a male character in that game (if I could stand playing it in the first place) because the male models in WoW are that exaggerated.



  • Ok, so we made the chest and legs big, then the arms to match, but now we have a problem, the hands look ridiculous.

    Scale them up to match.

    I did, then the fists were bigger than the head.

    Then just keep the hands away from his head.



  • Have you ever thought about what a, for example, Warhammer 40k space marine must LOOK LIKE in order to fit in that armor and still move his limbs?

    Or Samus from Metroid, for that matter.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Or Samus from Metroid

    -1
    In case you meant Samus from Sonic II

    http://i.imgur.com/PeyTd.jpg



  • @xaade said:

    In case you meant Samus from Sonic II

    Whaaa?

    Ok that art is sensible, but in-game the waist is like 15" OF ARMOR and the legs are like a solid foot longer than that drawing.



  • Well, they screw it up today with this nonsense.

    Honestly, I think at this point I would put her arms in front of her, crossed. Then the ball form would make more sense.


  • Java Dev

    Don't forget the position of the shoulders in that drawing does not match the way the arms articulate. Isn't the background something like she went through gene therapy to even fit in the armour?


  • FoxDev

    Wouldn't surprise me; have you seen the list of modifications and therapies Space Marines go through?



  • And then you have the ones that turn to Chaos and get mutations on top of that!



  • @PleegWat said:

    Isn't the background something like she went through gene therapy to even fit in the armour?

    Not as far as I know. She was just raised(?) by the last members of the Chozo race and they built it for her.

    Unless it's Other M, in which case the armor is apparently created magically via telekinesis and its main power is to get millions of Metroid players to throw down their controllers and yell, "fuck this game!"


  • FoxDev

    @PleegWat said:

    Isn't the background something like she went through gene therapy to even fit in the armour?

    From Wikitroid:

    How accurate is it? Probably as accurate as any other wiki dedicated to a game franchise ;)



  • I don't recognize "Gray Voice" but the rest of it sounds about right.

    He has only been named in the Metroid manga

    That would be why



  • @boomzilla said:

    Yes, the world is filled with useful[citation needed] idiots.

    FTFY



  • @RaceProUK said:

    Space Marines

    something something Alien Swarm


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    @ben_lubar said:

    @boomzilla said:
    Yes, the world is filled with useful[citation needed] idiots.

    FTFY

    Here you go...




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    Stay classy Philadelphia (language warning):

    https://youtu.be/oqjP50lBoaA?t=28s



  • FWIW - answering @Weng: "Wait? ... there's a Republican Governor in Maryland?"

    He's only been there ~4 months.

    Yes, it is... interesting.... that it could have happened. There's definitely gerrymandering that effects the legislature, but it doesn't effect who's in the majority.

    Maryland politics is dominated by Baltimore vs. DC-suburb dynamic with Howard/AA coming into play. Rural areas don't play... as long as they keep sending food. (ie Agriculture and tourism issues).

    Posting for Party Politics Handicapping of Races Reasons - not Policy Commentary Purposes

    Registration Statewide for the 2014 election:
    Dems:1767K
    Reps: 821K
    unaffiliated 554K
    other parties 57K

    Looking only at Dem/Rep:
    City is 81%/9%,
    County 69%/31%,
    AA 54%/56%
    PG 81%/9%

    Total registered. City: 362K, County 520K, AA 362K, PG 539K

    Largest Rep-majority county by far at 165K registered voters - Harford County. D/R is 47%/53%


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @ijij said:

    Yes, it is... interesting.... that it could have happened.

    My understanding, based on minimal reading about it, is that the governor was term-limited, and his chosen successor, the lieutentant governor, had made himself toxic by, among other things, backing a wildly-unpopular tax on rainfall. (that's not really what it was, but every calls it 'the rain tax' that I've heard about.) IOW, the Democrats ran a candidate who basically couldn't have won, except perhaps against Joe Stalin.

    The cynical might call it "the voters, having gotten sick of the mess the Democrats got them into, elected an adult to fix the Democrats' mess." It happens from time to time. Then, a couple of years later, they remember they don't like Republicans, and vote him out.


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    @FrostCat said:

    The cynical might call it "the voters, having gotten sick of the mess the Democrats got them into, elected an adult to fix the Democrats' mess." It happens from time to time. Then, a couple of years later, they remember they don't like Republicans, and vote him out.

    Yes, in fact the governor before O'Malley (the previous Dem) was a Republican.



  • @FrostCat said:

    My understanding, based on minimal reading about it, is that the governor was term-limited, and his chosen successor, the lieutentant governor, had made himself toxic

    Two points:
    On the one hand, the Lt. Governor was a non-entity... he was invisible for 8 years and was "in charge" of various (disliked) things so that he would have some bit of experience to run on. So he had no popular support.

    On the other hand, other leading Democrats could have run, but chose not to and left the Lt. Governor and the party swinging in the wind. This is all as intelligible as Kremlinology...

    (Still on the second hand) the Comptroller didn't run because you'd have to be an idiot to give up that job, and the AG didn't run., why? Lack of support because he the old Governor hate each other, or he's waiting to run for US Senate?

    Maryland politics can be very local.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @ijij said:

    Two points

    I did specify "minimal reading about it". 😄

    But that shit happens even in most Blue states, which is why Massachusetts has had--well I'll be darned, only 8 years out of the last 24 were a Democratic governor.


  • Garbage Person

    @ijij said:

    Dems:1767K
    Reps: 821K

    Interesting. Either I brainfarted back the last time I bothered caring about Maryland politics or the source I used left the 1 off the dem figure.

    My involvement in the state is basically "I live and pay taxes there. I drive to Pennsylvania for all other things". I ain't got no kids. Ain't gonna. I don't even buy food and gasoline in the state. If I ever go into business, it'll be in PA because commercial real estate is cheaper. The only reason I bother living there is that I own my house outright and just built a bigass commercial grade garage on the property.



  • BTW:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/02/us/freddie-gray-autopsy-report-given-to-baltimore-prosecutors.html?_r=0

    CRIMINAL CHARGES? It's almost as if people are starting to get the message.

    (Note the Union, also a scourge to liberty, is still like "nuh-uh! Cops can't murder!")


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    @blakeyrat said:

    CRIMINAL CHARGES? It's almost as if people are starting to get the message.

    They certainly seem appropriate here. Not that I know enough to really say so. And charges are a long way from conviction. Remember Rodney King (there have already been references in the topic to the riots after the cops who beat him were acquitted).



  • @boomzilla said:

    They certainly seem appropriate here. Not that I know enough to really say so. And charges are a long way from conviction. Remember Rodney King (there have already been references in the topic to the riots after the cops who beat him were acquitted).

    True, but considering that only maybe a third of these type of cases ever make it to criminal trial, this is a good move. Now maybe in a couple years we'll get 100% of these asshole cops in front of a jury.


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    Wow...they actually had no cause to arrest, either...

    Mosby said Gray was improperly arrested because officers had no probable cause to detain him. Officers found a knife in Gray's pants, but it was not a switchblade, as police previously said, and was legal under Maryland law.

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-freddie-gray-mosby-presser-0502-20150501-story.html#page=1



  • Yeah, that's the most disgusting thing about this whole affair. "Failure to make eye-contact" is not a crime.


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    Yeah. I'd heard stuff about the knife, but this was the first I'd seen confirming that it was legal and not a switchblade.


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