Today's Laptop Keyboards
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well yes, it was also probably mean to link to meta.d
I did notice that, but you didn't follow proper TDWTF idiom. @PJH should probably dock you, say, 30 posts.
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he can do that?
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he can do that?
I don't know, I was just thinking it'd be an easy way for me to get that badge back. :)
He probably can't, except by putting that UUID in a thread, and we don't want that because it would affect me, too. :)
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It would make the SQL messy(ier than it already is,) but certainly possible to dock on a per-user basis.
UUID for ignoring individual posts for example, then go find 30 that I think would probably be otherwise non-excluded and edit them for example...
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The Three Finger Fuckoff™ is not handled by the kernel, but by init. SysRq is handled by the kernel itself, so it usually works even when things are quite messed up (the "except when it doesn't" you mentioned).
I'd have thought that all keys are handled by the kernel at some point, in some way. Unless you're on a platform that lets user processes do direct hardware bit banging, but those are sort of rare now; AIUI, the closest you usually get is a user-space driver to understand the sense of the incoming messages and send appropriate messages to the hardware, but the actual reads and writes are still kernel-mediated.
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I'd have thought that all keys are handled by the kernel at some point, in some way.
I should have used a different word than "handle".
Of course all keys are handled by the kernel, it is the only piece of software that talks directly to the hardware1.
What I meant is: C-A-D gets passed through to userspace, just like Shift-A or any other key that is not SysRq. The kernel acts as a conduit between the hardware and userspace.
SysRq on the other hand doesn't pass through to userspace, but the kernel acts on that keypress itself. That's why SysRq still works even when there is no userspace (becauseinitdidn't start at boottime, for example).
1 statement is not 100% correct, but close enough for the current explanation
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SysRq on the other hand doesn't pass through to userspace, but the kernel acts on that keypress itself. That's why SysRq still works even when there is no userspace (because init didn't start at boottime, for example).
Fair enough.
Similar considerations are why you shouldn't check whether an application is live by pinging the server, because ICMP ECHO requests are handled by the kernel, and a hosed userland won't be detected. I've even seen that happen for real (on Solaris) though not for many years…
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Really bizarre but relevant thing: one text adventure game I played as a kid - Dungeon Quest - ultimately relied on you issuing a three-key-reset to the Amiga computer at the heart of the maze to win. (Though different three-keys)
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meta.d?
meta.discourse.com is not the same as meta.discourse.org ...
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i typed from memory.... did i really fail that badly?
-sigh-
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In keyboard design we seem to have gone backwards. Chiclet keyboards were cheap and nasty and were on many a sub $150 or £100 home computer, then apple think it is a good idea, if mainly as it uses less plastic \ metal and therefore cheaper and everyone else thinks it is a great idea too as it is trendy and cheaper.
If I have to do any serious typing then I carry a full sized NEC 109 key Japanese keyboard with me if only because I can pick them up in Japan for less then $5 and they feel wonderful and my typing speed increases 20% over the chiclet keyboard on the Lenovo I have.
IBM used to make wonderful keyboards, anyone who has used the Model M series of keyboards would agree and one reason why they sell for more then $100 a time...
My other complaint about laptop keyboards is the position of the non main keyboard keys. I used many due to my job and one computer has Home, End, Page Up and Page Down on the right side above the numeric keypad, another has it in the order Home, Page Up, Page Down and End. Another has it around the arrow keys and another has it around the arrow keys but you have to press Fn to get Home and End. The Del key can be anywhere around the keyboard, aboive backspace, next to the menu key, along the right hand side of the keyboard next to the right arrow. Can get very annoying....
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anyone who has used the Model M series of keyboards would agree
I actually hated the noisiness, which I why when I got a mechanical keyboard I got Cherry MX browns, not blues.
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I actually rather like Lenovo's keyboards. They're certainly above everyone else's. People rave about how good Apple's laptop keyboards are, but even they don't complain about Lenovo's. I will admit, however, that I prefer to use a proper keyboard.
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[Frostcat]
The clickiness is part of the charm.[Magus]
It is better then Apples but that is like saying a broken finger is better then a broken arm, I rather have neither unless I really had too..
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Click click click.
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[Frostcat]The clickiness is part of the "charm".
FTFY--to me, it's more like noise pollution.
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The clickiness is part of the charm.
As is the preparation for the zombie apocalypse. The Model M is good for at least a few hundred of the brain nibblers!
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IBM used to make wonderful keyboards, anyone who has used the Model M series of keyboards would agree and one reason why they sell for more then $100 a time...
I actually use its predecessor (the venerable IBM PC keyboard) which has 100% more steel in it. Deafening, but fun.
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Scroll Lock
SysRq
I've also seen both these keys used by KVMs to switch outputs without physically accessing the KVM.
Yes, I'm replying to a post from 3 1/2 weeks ago
