EVE Online considering using disc horse
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@Luhmann said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@xaade said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
Large mass dilates time.
Who are you calling fat?
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@blakeyrat said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
Don't blame me for Guild Wars 2's shitty bug.
Tell me where I said it was your fault.
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@FrostCat Tell me where I said you did.
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@blakeyrat said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
Tell me where I said you did.
Don't tell me what to do.
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It IS ProgressQuest in space.
It's just that you can lose stuff, and you get to choose which skill to raise....
It's glorified adVenture Capitalist with graphics.
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@e4tmyl33t said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
Thankfully I've never been involved in a fight big enough to be subjected to extreme time dilation in the game, but I can't imagine having to sit there for hours waiting for your guns to fire.
Been there in the largest pre-TD battle (to my knowledge, might have been another one in between that and TD going live). Fuck guns not firing, it took 10 minutes to load the overview!
Also, I was in a stealth bomber... you can imagine how well that went...
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@Onyx Oh yeah, no overview or dscan while cloaked in a bomber is paranoia-hell.
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@pydsigner said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
ProgressQuest is ugly Tk.
So, make it into an Service with an API, and then someone else could make a graphical plugin.
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@e4tmyl33t TIDI is 500% better than sitting in space seeing your modules cycle and not knowing whether they did anything or not. TIDI may be frustrating, but at least you know that something is going to happen when you push button.
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@xaade After a year or two you're most of the way caught up to older characters. Level 5 skills take a long time to train for minimal benefit.
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Although I only played for a few months after getting them, training in to carriers was the best decision I ever made. God it's so nice to be able to just pack your shit up and move it and not have to trust people to move it around (this is assuming you have a cyno alt though, which is pretty much a requirement if you have a carrier anyway)
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@JazzyJosh A whole year of being gibbed and ganked. Yay!!!
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@xaade No?
Fly frigates/destroyers/cruisers in small gangs and fuck shit up. Getting mostly equivalent with cruisers takes a month, maybe two.
The main problem is getting people to actually do PVP. If you're playing Eve for only the PVE you're doing it wrong, but there's not much to convince new players to leave high sec and find a group doing PVP
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But, is it another case where you can't find the balance between pugs and people that play with friends they already know.
That's a big problem with MMOs to me.
If you want to just PUG and have fun with a group of people, then the people that come in with precisely coordinated teams complain that it's too easy.
I find that games that have private sandboxes for pugs tend to do the best, and Eve just isn't one of those.
From everything I've seen, it takes a special type of person to play and enjoy Eve. They're the same as the people that play those mobile or facebook build a kingdom games where it can be attacked while you're AFK.
They're also the same type of people that would really benefit from taking that energy and starting their own business.
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@xaade You're not exactly wrong.
I have the MMO problem of "If I'm not playing with friends, or at least people I can routinely play with, I tend not to have fun with the game", especially once the leveling is finished and you get into the end-game grind. Running around by myself is boring, and PUGs usually end up in unrecognizable clusterfucks.
It's not too different with EVE, in my case. I found a group of dudes who were cool and who I enjoyed flying around space with, but the constant same stuff over and over again for months on end just wears me down and I stop caring about it and move on to other games.
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Anyone who doesn't get a thrill up their leg by playing Spreadsheet Simulator is probably a sociopath anyway.
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@xaade PUGs aren't really things in Eve, aside for maybe high-sec incursions, , which do have high requirements to get into (at least a battlecruiser with T2 guns, really a T3 cruiser or a logi (healer) ship). Mostly because of trust. If you've never interacted with someone, no way in hell are you leaving high-sec with them.
Now, inside alliances and corps, sure you could have a PUG. TEST has people who lead random shit-fit roams that often just welp but occasionally get a kill or two and they're really meant for fun instead of making sure you get kills.
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@JazzyJosh said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
really meant for fun instead of making sure you get kills.
Because fuck fun when playing EVE.
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@FrostCat said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
Don't tell me what to do.
I'll read that as, "oh Blakeyrat, you're right, you never said that and I just ass-pulled an assumption and then acted as if you had because I'm human garbage!"
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@blakeyrat You said "don't blame me for [...]". I wasn't. You really need to get your telepathy adjusted, because you seem to have developed it these days in that you impute motives to others that aren't there.
I mean, if I'd said "you shouldn't have put your video card in an open-end 1X slot, you dumbass" you might have a point other than the ones on your pneumothorax.
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@xaade ? Are shoulder
aliensspace catholics speaking to you?
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@blakeyrat said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
I'll read that
Also, at least you'll read it, for a change!
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@FrostCat I don't think collapsed lungs have points....
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@Weng said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
collapsed lungs
I always assumed he absorbed oxygen--if that's what he uses--through his skin--if that's what he has--or else external gills like an axolotl.
ETA: Oh. I think I meant "pseudothorax".
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@Weng said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@FrostCat I don't think collapsed lungs have points....
Any solid geometrical shape has infinite points.
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@error said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@Weng said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@FrostCat I don't think collapsed lungs have points....
Any solid geometrical shape has infinite points.
Any region of space with at least one non zero edge measurement has infinite points.
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@xaade said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
Except it will never be you because everyone has an exponential lead on you.
Nothing that was mentioned in the video requires skills. It was just social engineering, you're capable of doing that the moment you create an account.
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@accalia said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@error said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@Weng said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@FrostCat I don't think collapsed lungs have points....
Any solid geometrical shape has infinite points.
Any region of space with at least one non zero edge measurement has infinite points.
So you agree?
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@accalia Not true, you can't fire off a heavy interdictor's infinipoint in high-sec space.
Oh wait...
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@error said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@accalia said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@error said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@Weng said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@FrostCat I don't think collapsed lungs have points....
Any solid geometrical shape has infinite points.
Any region of space with at least one non zero edge measurement has infinite points.
So you agree?
just pedanting yout pedantry. you don't need a geometric solid to have infinite points. you can have just an area of empty space.
:-P
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@accalia said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@error said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@accalia said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@error said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@Weng said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@FrostCat I don't think collapsed lungs have points....
Any solid geometrical shape has infinite points.
Any region of space with at least one non zero edge measurement has infinite points.
So you agree?
just pedanting yout pedantry. you don't need a geometric solid to have infinite points. you can have just an area of empty space.
:-P
I never said it was necessary, just sufficient.
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@error said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@accalia said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@error said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@accalia said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@error said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@Weng said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@FrostCat I don't think collapsed lungs have points....
Any solid geometrical shape has infinite points.
Any region of space with at least one non zero edge measurement has infinite points.
So you agree?
just pedanting yout pedantry. you don't need a geometric solid to have infinite points. you can have just an area of empty space.
:-P
I never said it was necessary, just sufficient.
touche
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@e4tmyl33t You really can't point with an infini-script installed on a hic in highsec?
Hics are pretty expensive, I think that allowing infini-scripted fields should be fine.
I assume the real problem is :ccp: doesn't want to put the effort into differentiating what will probably never be used.
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@JazzyJosh As far as I remember, you can't fire dictor bubbles or hictor bubbles/infinipoints in highsec at all.
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@JazzyJosh said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
You really can't point with an infini-script installed on a hic in highsec?
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@error Thanks google!
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@e4tmyl33t Yeah, definitely not bubbles
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@error Were you googling for fun or to figure out what the terms mean?
In case the second:
So a ship type in EVE is an Interdictor, a frigate-class ship that can launch immobile 20-km-ish warp disruption bubbles.A more powerful version of this is the Heavy Interdictor, a cruiser-class hull that instead of launching an immobile bubble, generates a bubble from itself. One thing you can do with this is put a "script" charge in this module which changes it from a "bubble" effect to a targeted one, called an "infiniscript" or "infinite-point" script, which means it applies an infinite number of points of warp disruption to the ship targeted by the module (which is the only real way to warp-disrupt capital ships, since they shrug off standard-scale warp disruptor modules)
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@e4tmyl33t said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
figure out what the terms mean?
This one. Rather than chime into a conversation I don't understand with "derp, what?" I'll usually do a bit of quiet research first.
Thanks for the explanation.
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@e4tmyl33t Super-caps. Regular caps (carriers and dreadnaughts) aren't immune to e-war. That being said, most caps are packing 6 warp core stabs in their cargo just in case, so otherwise you need at least 3 scrams or 6 disruptors
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@e4tmyl33t said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
One thing you can do with this is put a "script" charge in this module which changes it from a "bubble" effect to a targeted one, called an "infiniscript" or "infinite-point" script, which means it applies an infinite number of points of warp disruption to the ship targeted by the module (which is the only real way to warp-disrupt capital ships, since they shrug off standard-scale warp disruptor modules)
Disappointed. For a minute I thought you could run scripts in-game. I love the idea of an MMO that doesn't just allow botting, but actively encourages it. Someday I'll... think about how cool it would be to do that and never actually do it.
Edit: This is mostly why I loved FFXII gambits.
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@JazzyJosh Ah, that's what it was. Though most times people will just throw a HIC at a carrier or dread rather than bringing a ton of normal tackle.
EDIT: Unless you're TEST, Goons, or PH/PL and have 50 sacrificial tackle twits on hand at any given time.
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@accalia said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
The vibe I'm getting from that pic is "what am I supposed to do with this thing?"
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@FrostCat said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
what am I supposed to do with this thing?"
.... yeah, that sounds about right.
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@FrostCat That's like the kendo stance, though. And poses where the sword tip is in the foreground (usually fisheye kind of) at around this angle are kind of a meme in Japan.
@accalia said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
.... yeah, that sounds about right.
I was watching Danganronpa (or however its spelled) yesterday, and due to strange things involving drugs, one of the female characters was very interested in borrowing her friend's kendo sword.
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@Magus said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
That's like the kendo stance, though.
Maybe so, but that face doesn't say "ima hit you with this". It says "how did this get in my hands?"
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@FrostCat probably a trick so she can hit people hard and unexpected...
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Will they have enough servers? Running a mmorpg is a thing, but we're talking about Discourse here.