Strategy Letter VI (Joel on Software)
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@xaade said in Strategy Letter VI (Joel on Software):
saying one is "American" is offensive.
I live in America (Canada). If you call me an American, I will find it offensive
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Canada : America :: Hong Kong : China
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Being offended by a random stranger's question/comment implies I care what that random stranger thinks of me.
The only thing I'm offended by people implying I'm so egotistical.
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@xaade said in Strategy Letter VI (Joel on Software):
Canada : America ::
Hong KongMongolia : ChinaFTFY
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@dkf I was comparing political origins, not geographical location.
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@Onyx said in Strategy Letter VI (Joel on Software):
The only thing I'm offended by people implying I'm so egotistical.
because it offends your ego?
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@xaade said in Strategy Letter VI (Joel on Software):
I was comparing political origins, not geographical location
I was just thinking neighbour that's large, sparsely populated and cold. :)
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@xaade said in Strategy Letter VI (Joel on Software):
@dkf I was comparing political origins, not geographical location.
Even then, it's not really accurate. While only one of the two common meanings of "Americans" applies to Canadians, both meanings of "Chinese" (of Han ethnicity, of Chinese nationality) apply to the vast majority of Hong Kong people, so despite how much they whinge about it, it is not incorrect to describe Hong Kong people as Chinese
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The adjective describing something belonging to North America is "North American". The adjective describing something belonging to South America is "South American". The adjective describing something belonging to Canada is "Canadian". The adjective describing something belonging to Mexico is "Mexican". The adjective describing something belonging to the US is "American". There is no word describing something that belongs to both North and South America; you have to say something like "in the Americas" in the very very rare case when you're describing something that belongs to both continents.
English is just weird like that.
(ETA: Thanks for the nomination <3)
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@Yamikuronue said in Strategy Letter VI (Joel on Software):
The adjective describing something belonging to the US is "American".
In honor of an ex-president, “'Merkins”.
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"also collectively called America". But that's ok, it's just a name, most people are already used to America referring to the USA
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Wikipedia explained it better later:
Etymology and naming
The earliest known use of the name America dates to 1507, where it was applied to what is now known as South America.[39] The scholarly consensus is that the name was derived from Italian explorer Amerigo Vespucci.[40]
In modern English, North and South America are generally considered separate continents, and taken together are called the Americas in the plural, parallel to similar situations such as the Carolinas. When conceived as a unitary continent, the form is generally the continent of America in the singular. However, without a clarifying context, singular America in English commonly refers to the United States of America.[7]
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@clippy Yes, but the adjective form is not typically "American". They make up the Western hemisphere, but the adjective "Western" typically includes Europe, which is in the Eastern hemisphere.
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@Yamikuronue said in Strategy Letter VI (Joel on Software):
Europe, which is in the Eastern hemisphere
Only mostly.
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@Yamikuronue
That leaves only one question: who's a berliner?
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@Luhmann This is a berliner:
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@Yamikuronue Now you're making me hungry, and all that's in the office right now are chocolate-coated pretzels…
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@xaade said in Strategy Letter VI (Joel on Software):
@lordofduct Two approaches to the concept that saying one is "American" is offensive.
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Isn't assuming a people group would be offended, especially if that person doesn't belong to a people group, using a broad brush, creating a stereotype, etc. That seems to be hypocrisy to me.
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When I actually visited foreigners, they seemed to be ok with and understand that "American" refers to US Citizen. And what a mouthful, right? One would think US-American would work? USian, however stupid, would at least be functional in conversation. "A citizen of the US" doesn't work at all...
Hi, yes, I'd like to order the All-Citizen-of-the-US-ian burger.
What the fuck does this have to do with my joke?
You do understand why I brought up "American is offensive"? I wasn't saying that it was... I was juxtaposing the SJW argument that it is, against the fact someone call blakey an SJW. I was tongue in cheek claiming he was an incentive asshole, because he did not follow the tenants of the supposed social group someone claimed he was part of.
Why does this warrant you explaining to me that foreigners don't mind the term? Do you think I'm retarded and couldn't figure that shit out on my own? I don't think it's offensive!
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@lordofduct Sorry, dude, you mentioned the word "American", this thread is now forfeit to "OMG but like Canadians are Americans too!" arguments. Them's the breaks.
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@Yamikuronue
Around here they are more like
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@lordofduct said in Strategy Letter VI (Joel on Software):
Do you think I'm retarded and couldn't figure that shit out on my own?
And now you're offended ?
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@lordofduct said in Strategy Letter VI (Joel on Software):
What the fuck does this have to do with my joke?
Nice blakey impression, BTW.
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@Yamikuronue said in Strategy Letter VI (Joel on Software):
The adjective describing something belonging to Canada is "Canadian". The adjective describing something belonging to Mexico is "Mexican". The adjective describing something belonging to the US is "American".
Although we normally just shorten it to just Mexico, a more correct formal translation would be the United Mexican States.
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@boomzilla said in Strategy Letter VI (Joel on Software):
the United Mexican States
now pronounce it with more flegm and passion
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@Yamikuronue said in Strategy Letter VI (Joel on Software):
There is no word describing something that belongs to both North and South America; you have to say something like "in the Americas" in the very very rare case when you're describing something that belongs to both continents.
"Westerner". Although admittedly that could possibly include Europeans.
Huh. Is Africa part of the west?
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@clippy said in Strategy Letter VI (Joel on Software):
most people are already used to America referring to the USA
...but the ones that aren't are like vegans.
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@Yamikuronue said in Strategy Letter VI (Joel on Software):
"OMG but like Canadians are Americans too!"
No, they're "america's-hat-icans".
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@TimeBandit said in Strategy Letter VI (Joel on Software):
@lordofduct said in Strategy Letter VI (Joel on Software):
Do you think I'm retarded and couldn't figure that shit out on my own?
And now you're offended ?
Always offended!
The fact you asked if I was offended is offensive to me.
:P
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@lordofduct Glad I could help. :D
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@Yamikuronue And Easterners are South of European Westerners.
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@lordofduct You seem to be an expert at it. As I'm not a native speaker it's been difficult for me to access the level of offensiveness of different english insults used on this forum.
Of course I know people will troll and give false information here for the lols. This should be on dictionaries.
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@dkf And you misspelled it. Everyone knows the proper way to spell that is
'muricans
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@sloosecannon aint no need to use an apostrophe for true muricans
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@Yamikuronue said in Strategy Letter VI (Joel on Software):
(ETA: Thanks for the nomination <3)
Cool, what's the estimated time of arrival on the badger?
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@clippy Do I need to bring back the RARE BLAKEYRAT PEDANTIC DICKWEED post?