Chilcot Enquiry
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@boomzilla said in Chilcot Enquiry:
The problem with this is that I don't think that's necessarily true if he's legitimately a wartime combatant.
That is certainly a proposition someone could argue for. Too bad President Drone Strike didn't.
@boomzilla said in Chilcot Enquiry:
I think the legitimacy of killing him is at least as firm legally as, say, Obamacare.
Nice!
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@lucas1 said in Chilcot Enquiry:
I would want to make damn well sure we were killing the right people.
Don't be so damn picky. They're foreigners, aren't they?
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@FrostCat said in Chilcot Enquiry:
TFY
@FrostCat said in Chilcot Enquiry:
I'll kill every member of your family unto the 5th degree relation" was used in the past because it was thought to have deterrent effect, not to mention the fact that if you kill a guy's family, they aren't going to be coming back for revenge.
Jack Handey, Deep Thoughts
We tend to scoff at the beliefs of the ancients. But we can't scoff at them personally, to their faces, and this is what annoys me.
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@error I wonder if Jack Handey would scoff to the face of the kind of person who actually would kill someone's family out to the fifth degree.
Well, more than once, that is.
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@asdf said in Chilcot Enquiry:
To most people in the world, the primary goal of any form of government and law is to protect human life.
Yet to most sane people, the primary goal of a government is to keep being the government.
@lucas1 said in Chilcot Enquiry:
@boomzilla Being English my countrymen kinda carved up that are of our own interests, then bomb the fuck outta them and then are surprised by the locals being piss off at us. The best thing we can do is just buggar off and leave them too it.
Then maybe you shouldn't have launched all those crusades at them.
All this was d but I don't care.
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@Magus said in Chilcot Enquiry:
Then maybe you shouldn't have launched all those crusades at them
That shows a remarkable historical ignorance.
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@FrostCat So does your face!
Ooh, sick burn!
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@FrostCat said in Chilcot Enquiry:
remarkable historical ignorance.
I don't have a lot of memory to begin with, history just doesn't stick for very long.
Well, except certain pieces.
For example, WifiPassword0 for SSID "Wizarding" at geolocation 0fbdw2 is (was)afebb01aa3
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@lucas1 said in Chilcot Enquiry:
The guy wasn't a pleasant
That's a harsh way to talk about a dead man. I'm sure he was pleasant when dealing with his loved ones.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Chilcot Enquiry:
For example, WifiPassword0 for SSID "Wizarding" at geolocation 0fbdw2 is (was) afebb01aa3.
SSIDs like that are just adding fuel to the fire kaffir.
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AFAIK there was never a valid evidence for starting the war. It was all fake, and I think the US government did it on purpose, because I don't believe them to be that incompetent.
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@candlejack1 This is why it was a mistake to emphasize the WMD stuff as opposed to the other stuff, too. No one even knows that there were other reasons to get rid of Saddam. Of course, it's really easy to look at something in hindsight.
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@boomzilla I'm not aware of the otter reasons
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@candlejack1 Exactly. I read Tommy Franks' book. He was CINCCENTCOM 2000-2003, and talked quite a bit about the fact that we were already in a low intensity war with Saddam, who had figured out how to nearly completely evade UN sanctions to some extent or other. Saddam was also supporting terrorism in various ways.
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@boomzilla next you're gonna tell me you guys had a decent reasoning to attack afghanistan
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@candlejack1 No. That reasoning was excellent.
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@boomzilla Saudi Arabia basically supports wahhabism some would argue that they had more to do with terrorist attacks than Saddam Hussein ever did.
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@lucas1 Yes.
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@tufty Yes sorry, I forgot that I was a racist for a second.
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@boomzilla said in Chilcot Enquiry:
@candlejack1 No one even knows that there were other reasons to get rid of Saddam.
Hang on a minute. Saddam was the US's (and UK's) poster boy in the middle east. Nobody gave a fuck about him gassing marsh arabs as long as he was on side re: pissing off Iran. Well, nobody gave a fuck until he started getting too big for his boots and tried to get hold of Kuwait's oil fields. At which point "oh, what a nasty man".
Who funded Saddam? The US. Who put him in power? The US. Who built his chemical plants, where he made the gas to use on Iran and his own people? The UK.
We didn't care as long as he kept the Mullahs away from the oil.
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@lucas1 said in Chilcot Enquiry:
@tufty Yes sorry, I forgot that I was a racist for a second.
Oh, we all are :P
But seriously, if we must have squaddies, wouldn't you rather they were over there shooting ragheads, rather than over here drinking themselves comatose and puking all over the town centre?
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@tufty said in Chilcot Enquiry:
Hang on a minute while I say some irrelevant stuff
@tufty said in Chilcot Enquiry:
Who funded Saddam? The US. Who put him in power?
So you agree with me and Bill Cosby then?
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As long as all you're concerned about making is enemies, then yeah, you're right on the button.
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@tufty I'm just amused that you think you had some other point there.
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@boomzilla said in Chilcot Enquiry:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Chilcot Enquiry:
For example, WifiPassword0 for SSID "Wizarding" at geolocation 0fbdw2 is (was) afebb01aa3.
SSIDs like that are just adding fuel to the fire kaffir.
Well now you know where I live and how to connect to my Wifi. And my TV generates enough heat it might as well be a fire, so....