Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes
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Hey remember how according to people on this forum GamerGate is alternatively:
- Not even a thing anymore
- Harmless
- A legit reaction to insane evil witch-like Neo-Super Feminists from Beyond Space?
Yeah.
Well those dickholes just got Alison Rapp fired.
But that's ok, because she's probably a neo-Super Feminist from Beyond Space.
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Cool, Kotaku, the Mouth of All that is Foul, is angry about something. I refuse to read anything they output, but I bet she didn't have people call her boss and tell him she's a rapist, like happened to GamerGate people.
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@blakeyrat I thought the [INSERT_INTERWEBS_GROUP]-rage was about some paper she wrote in college that may or may not have been blow way out of context?
And didn't you say you didn't need more of this crap in your life? Obvious is fail.
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@Magus said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
but I bet she didn't have people call her boss and tell him she's a rapist,
The article contains proof that people contacted her bosses and told them she was a pedophile, actually. But it's probably for the best you didn't read it, because those Space Feminists are shape-shifters and have terrible mental powers.
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@blakeyrat Wait, so now it's cowardly to fire actual pedophiles? What are you smoking? I now remember my friend mentioning something about tweets from a Nintendo employee favoring pedophilia. Was it incorrect?
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@MathNerdCNU said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
And didn't you say you didn't need more of this crap in your life? Obvious is fail.
I kind of want to see how Cartman82 is going to respond to it, honestly.
Also I want to combat the GamerGate ideals being spread on this forum, because fuck that right up the ass.
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@blakeyrat said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
Also I want to combat the GamerGate ideals being spread on this forum, because fuck that right up the ass.
Then you can't say things like that. That would be rape.
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@Magus Magus' response seems to be simply to spout gibberish nonsense.
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@Magus said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
@blakeyrat said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
Also I want to combat the GamerGate ideals being spread on this forum, because fuck that right up the ass.
Then you can't say things like that. That would be rape.
My initial
troll instinctreaction was to post a Phoenix Wright "Objection!" image macro but I don't know enough about the game to do so without looking like a dingus...
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@blakeyrat what the hell? The line of argumentation that gg/revo /whoever is peddling is downright dumb.
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It still blows my mind that real people are behaving this way and believe it's okay.
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@LB_ What's even more amazing is that the essay they're using as "evidence" that Rapp is a pedophile supporter is specifically about keeping Japanese culture free of western influences-- which is purportedly exactly the thing these GamerGate morons want from Nintendo localizations!
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@blakeyrat The GG treehouse has a giant "NO GIRLS ALLOWED" sign hung out front.
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@blakeyrat All I know is that anyone who's doing this wrongfully is a terrible person. It was terrible when it happened to the "Not your shield" guy, and it's terrible here - if she's innocent.
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Ha! Cognitive dissonance gives you no peace, thats why you keep dredging this up.
Never heard of this woman before. From a 5 minute ressearch, seems she made some iffy tweets defending anime pedophilia. Someone complained to nintendo. She got axed.
Nintendo is a conservative kiddy company, so she getting fired was probably a given if she was gonna make a controversy. On the other hand, going for a job is generally a dick move, especially if it has no relation to the debate (eg. no journalist, pr...)
Either way, im going to sleep.
Calm down blakey. I know youve gone deep sjw, but there are more important things in life than gender wars.
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@MathNerdCNU said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
My initial troll instinctreaction was to post a Phoenix Wright "Objection!" image macro but I don't know enough about the game to do so without looking like a dingus...
You'd need an elaborate explanation why your opponent is terribly, terribly wrong after that. Otherwise you eat a penalty.
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@cartman82 said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
anime pedophilia
General question:
(first link off Google)
Should viewing of illustrated paedophilia be considered the same as viewing of corporeal (just real?) paedophilia?
In Sweden a anime translator got arrested on CP charges for having a book with a drawn Cp scene.
This seems wrong to me.
Who is illustrated Cp hurting? (no sarcasm)
Unless you consider triggering hurting someone, I just don't see the harm.
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@Magus You know what, I take that back. Going after someone in real life is always a problem. The interesting thing about all this to me is that as far as I can tell, a sexist doesn't have to break laws to find satisfaction, while a pedophile does. So it makes sense that one would be axed faster, but I doubt it would be in practice. Nintendo isn't likely to deal with the risk of employing either.
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@swayde said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
Should viewing of illustrated paedophilia be considered the same as viewing of corporeal (just real?) paedophilia?
In some countries, including Poland, it is. Hence the "all characters depicted are 18 years old, even if they look 12, act 12 or are actually animals" disclaimers on every fanservice-heavy or plain old porn site. And Blakey's favourite "actually a 9000-year-old witch" excuse.
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@Maciejasjmj said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
In some countries, including Poland, it is
Yeah, I know. Both in Denmark where I live, and across the water in Sweden.
I wanted to know what people think.
Excuses are unlikely to work here - it's based on appearance.
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@swayde said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
Excuses are unlikely to work here - it's based on appearance.
...good luck trying to establish whether a crudely drawn tentacle monster looks 18...
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@Maciejasjmj said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
@swayde said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
Excuses are unlikely to work here - it's based on appearance.
...good luck trying to establish whether a crudely drawn tentacle monster looks 18...
So no Day of the Tentacle Remastered then?
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I wonder, was she actually fired, or just publicly fired? I have literally no business or managerial experience, but if I was running a company and negative controversy struck out about one of my innocent employees, I would publicly fire them and privately move them to working remotely. No idea how well that would work, though.
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@cartman82 said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
Never heard of this woman before. From a 5 minute ressearch, seems she made some iffy tweets defending anime pedophilia. Someone complained to nintendo. She got axed.
Nintendo is a conservative kiddy company, so she getting fired was probably a given if she was gonna make a controversy. On the other hand, going for a job is generally a dick move, especially if it has no relation to the debate (eg. no journalist, pr...)
Moral of the story: if you are a public figure, don't post anything to Twitter.
Actually, even if you aren't a public figure, don't post anything to Twitter.
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@blakeyrat Was this your tweet?
Meh. I read more of that article than is probably healthy and I just can't work up any excitement one way or the other.
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@blakeyrat said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
The article contains proof that people contacted her bosses and told them she was a pedophile, actually.
Fuck...they really buried the lede then. I got probably about 2/3 (edit: oh, no, more like 90%, the comments made the page longer and I almost made it!) of the way through that and didn't see anything like that.
@blakeyrat said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
Also I want to combat the GamerGate ideals being spread on this forum, because fuck that right up the ass.
Totally agree. Grown men shouldn't be playing so many video games!
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Fuck moronic bosses that fire someone because angry idiots from the Internet are calling and saying shit.
It doesn't matter the side of the whatevergate war, this is fucking ridiculous.
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@boomzilla said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
Totally agree. Grown men shouldn't be playing so many video games!
They're a good way to pass the time when I don't feel like working on my project(s) and/or it isn't drag racing/kayaking/beach season yet.
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@boomzilla said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
Totally agree. Grown men shouldn't be playing so many video games!
the best part on being a grown up, is that noone can say what you should be playing
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@fbmac said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
the best part on being a grown up, is that noone can say what you should be playing
Sure they can. But, as an old friend of mine once said, "If you're old enough to know better, you're old enough to not give a shit."
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DISCLAIMER: I don't give a shit about GG.... don't fucking care. What I do find hilari-fucking-lous is the constant whining from feminists when their own tactics are employed against them.
You mean that there are dicks and extremists in every hashtag movement.
gasp
Or, is it only extremists in your preferred group that are "Not a True Scottsman".
@Yamikuronue said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
The GG treehouse has a giant "NO GIRLS ALLOWED" sign hung out front.
Apparently it was not effective and the members in the treehouse don't bother taking it down, because women in the group....
gasp
@Maciejasjmj said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
...good luck trying to establish whether a crudely drawn tentacle monster looks 18...
Especially since.
- Most of the "underage looking" anime girls are not underage, it's just art-style.
- Americans have a penchant for employing actors well over the age of the person they portray, possibly for this reason.
@blakeyrat said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
The article contains proof that people contacted her bosses and told them she was a pedophile
And they are GG because they say they are.... right....
Meanwhile feminists have to constantly remind us of what feminism in their PR movement, because their actions don't align with their words....
The only thing consistent is how many sides of their mouth they speak out of.
@blakeyrat said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
those Space Feminists
You get no pity from me.
By Anita's own definition, you are (should be considered) legally harassing us all because of your constant disagreements, and the UN should come in and censor you.
Let me guess, you're drinking my tears right.
LoL hypocrisy.
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@cartman82 said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
Never heard of this woman before. From a 5 minute ressearch, seems she made some iffy tweets defending anime pedophilia. Someone complained to nintendo. She got axed.
You could not be more wrong.
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@xaade What are you talking about you crazy person.
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New rule: anyone mentioning Gamergate again in any context, anywhere, shall be subject to summary execution.
We know who was in the wrong here: everyone. Let this nonsense die, for fuck's sake.
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I'm talking about the fact that feminists are full of shit acting like they don't do this to other people.
Chickens... meet roost.
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@ScholRLEA said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
We know who was in the wrong here: everyone. Let this nonsense die, for fuck's sake.
It won't die, because anyone anywhere doing anything "wrong" to a woman must be in GG.... par blakey.
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@boomzilla said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
I got probably about 2/3 (edit: oh, no, more like 90%, the comments made the page longer and I almost made it!) of the way through that and didn't see anything like that.
You would think that would've been featured more prominently.
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@cartman82 said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
there are more important things in life than gender wars.
There aren't any gender wars.
There are asshat on shitface wars.
Meanwhile, me and my wife look on in confusion.
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So, uh, can anyone sum this up for me, preferably sans autistic screeching about how "nerd culture" is misogynist? I'd click the link in the OP but then again I prefer to avoid giving pageviews to cancerous shitholes like gawker.
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Some woman makes a controversial statement and it gets noticed and she gets fired.
Meanwhile, tin foil hats about feminist on gamergate because kotaku can't take the fucking glasses off.
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Right, but what did she actually say? Reading the thread, I understand it had something to do with (perceived) paedophilia. Which is something that almost nobody seems to actually know what it is - that's why I'm asking. The woman's "controversial" statement might have amounted to "paedophiles aren't necessarily child rapists", which sadly seems to be controversial, even though it's entirely true.
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@xaade said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
I'm talking about the fact that feminists are full of shit acting like they don't do this to other people.
Chickens... meet roost.So your enlightened philosophy here is "two wrongs make a right".
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@xaade said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
Some woman makes a controversial statement and it gets noticed and she gets fired.
Did you actually read the essay?
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@boomzilla said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
Totally agree. Grown men shouldn't be playing so many video games!
Not unless your job is QA for games.
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@blakeyrat he said that was entertaining, not acceptable. But you only have kotaku's word that this has anything to do with GG.
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Any thoughts on the Tracer issue at blizzard @blakeyrat ?
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Well so much for @blakeyrat's sjw/gg nonsense.
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@DogsB Eh, seems like there's still back and forth on the reasons (according to the update thing) but I'm not surprised there's more info to consider. Don't even blame Kotaku completely, damned Internet news get published before any fact checking can be done because clicks, and everyone does it not just Gawker crew.
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@DogsB said in Cowardly Nintendo Execs Fire Employee After GamerGate Are Assholes:
Any thoughts on the Tracer issue at blizzard @blakeyrat ?
What would that issue be? The only results I can find are a Forbes article about Notch that I can't read and various articles about the Tracer statue.
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Ok, a bit more research, but not too much.
So she's some kind of marketing/PR person. And she uses the same account to tweet her ideology and promote her company. IMO that automatically pushes going after her job towards the lighter shade of the grey spectrum. She was the one who brought in the company into the fight, not her opponents.
Here's an actual compilation of her tweets.
There's also her thesis linked in the OP.
These tweets are
- Old
- Reasonable
She should't have gotten fired because of them.
And oops, turns out she didn't.
Alison Rapp was terminated due to violation of an internal company policy involving holding a second job in conflict with Nintendo’s corporate culture. Though Ms. Rapp’s termination follows her being the subject of criticism from certain groups via social media several weeks ago, the two are absolutely not related.
Confirmed by her.
Read the comments.
Summary. She was a crappy employee who was fostering controversy and pissing off her company's customers, while at the marketing position at said company. She was a liability. They were probably building up a case for firing her for months (at least according to this anonymous post). They finally found the excuse they needed and caned her.
She must have known the real reason all along, yet she pretended it was all somehow because of evil gamergate. So crappy rags like Kotaku would write click baity outraged articles. So SJW idiots like riking and blakeyrat would run around trying to gather sympathy for her case.
On the other hand, let's not pretend this kind of thinking doesn't exist even in "good" GG places too:
It's been downvoted (I found it by sorting by "controversial"), but not exactly downvoted into oblivion, as it deserves. When you have warring tribes, morality is the first that goes out the window. Who would have thought?
So did "GG" tweets contribute to her firing? Despite what Nintendo says, probably a little bit. Did she bring it on herself by not separating her private and PR online personas? Sure. If her only crime was publishing that thesis 5 years ago, should she have gotten fired? No.
In the end, did she deserve to get fired? Only Nintendo and her really know.