Yes, I would really like to save my work
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IDA is so full of WTF, it deserves it's own category. Exhibit A is the "Save database" dialog that pops up when you want to quit (there's a post around here about that, but I can't Discofind it).
Today's episode started when I made the mistake of trying to open the Functions window. I get this message:
So you would think that clicking OK would take me back to the main window so I could save my work, right? Wrong. The error message immediately pops back up. I clicked OK about 20 times, it still keeps coming back.
I guess I won't be saving my work.
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Bonus WTF: I hadn't noticed, but every time I clicked OK on all those error messages, IDA created a new dmp file each time. Thanks again, IDA.
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Out of curiosity, which version of IDA is this? I've only ever used the free version (version 5?).
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I'm running 6.3. We have 6.5 around here somewhere, but I'm actually afraid to upgrade.
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IDA
The only IDA software I can find on the Googles is this:
What's great is that they put all their shitty UI into a single image. (Which is, naturally, a .gif. Because why wouldn't it be.)
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Yes, that's IDA.
all their shitty UI into a single image.
Not all. It doesn't show you any of the dialog boxes, all of which are confusing as hell. And it doesn't show you any of the keyboard shortcuts, like Ctrl+W to save.
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like Ctrl+W to save.
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@dcon said:
@NedFodder said:
like Ctrl+W to save.
You should see Nano's shortcut for saving, Ctrl+O
:w!
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@dcon said:
@NedFodder said:
like Ctrl+W to save.
You should see Nano's shortcut for saving, Ctrl+O
That's... just wrong.
W for "W"rite i assume.
I'd assume that too.
:w!
ZZ
(yeah, I know not quite the same. I don't need to force usually)
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like Ctrl+W to save
Just to add my ?
That's worse than Discourse justifying features because Google does it. Like using Ctrl+K to insert a link.
Oh - wait...
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I thought Ctrl+K existed in Word before Google ever did it?
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Probably. Was just having a dig at Jeff justifying doing some stuff because Google did it.
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:w!
You smash write-protected files by default? You naughty vixen. I'd never do that.
(Also because if I've got a read-only file open then it's probably not been checked out of source control yet, and checking out clobbers the file).
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TIL.
+1.
Although my sequence for nano is more something like Esc:wEnter *cursing* dd *more cursing* *random button smashing to make garbage text go away* Ctrl-X Y.
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Ah. IDA.
The renaming dialog:
Notice the "Maximum Length" field? If you exceed it:
Luckily, the limit is per file so you only have to contend with this "feature" in your first few renames.
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Nano's shortcut for saving, Ctrl+O
For "write Out".
Edit: sorry for the necro: my finger must have flicked too hard and scrolled down the "new" list too far...
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Probably. Was just having a dig at Jeff justifying doing some stuff because Google did it.
I hate it when people use "big company does it this way" to justify adopting something stupid. I tend to think of these people as lemmings.
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I tend to think of these people as lemmings.
Do you know what aren't like lemmings in that analogy?
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Do you know what aren't like lemmings in that analogy?
Very interesting, but I was thinking more about these guys...
Edit: Psygnosis were fucking awesome (before Sony gutted them)
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my sequence for nano is more something like Esc:wEnter *cursing* dd *more cursing* *random button smashing to make garbage text go away* Ctrl-XY.
Generally I use Esc:wEnter *cursing* dd *more cursing* *random button smashing to make garbage text go away* *random button smashing to make nano go away* su -Enterhunter2Enterapt install vim-noxEnter
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@PJH said:
Do you know what aren't like lemmings in that analogy?
Very interesting, but I was thinking more about these guys...
Edit: Psygnosis were fucking awesome (before Sony gutted them)
Before there was HTML5, there was DHTML Lemmings
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That's why I have genuine, licensed UW .
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I literally don't understand what makes people so upset about Nano. I mean... it's pretty much as inoffensive as it gets. Under-featured, straightforward, with most of the commands on the screen so you can figure out how to do basic shit. It's not shiny, and I understand people preferring other things, but hating it?
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It's not shiny, and I understand people preferring other things, but hating it?
when i do
sudo -e
and i get nano instead of ViM i get annoyed because i was expecting vim and by the time i notice i didn't get it my muscle memory has kicked in and i'm probably half way done with the edit i wanted to make, littering my config file with vim commandsso there's that.
i wouldn't go so far as to say i hate it though.......
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Eh, that's fair enough. Annoyed at not getting the editor you expected I can understand
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I find it wastes space in a terminal which irritates me a little. Doesn't have line numbers, which make finding things awkward, has weird key combos to do anything like save and just feels...off.
I can't put my finger on it exactly, but it feels too much like the creepy guy who knows tries to hard to make you like him. There is nothing specific wrong, but at the same time everything is...
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Annoyed at not getting the editor you expected I can understand
Nobody expects the nano imposition!
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@dcon said:
Oh man... there goes my day...
Hmm. Bar goes halfway across and stops. IE/Chrome/FF, all the same. Unimpressed.
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I fucking love Nano. It's my favorite Nix editor.
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It's fairly new. "Massively" might be a bit of an overstatement until they get their webscale on.
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I fucking love Nano. It's my favorite Nix editor.
Same. When I'm editing a config file, I don't need a fully featured text editor with a million options. I just want to turn keypresses into bytes in a file in the most direct way possible. I'm just going to add a line or two, not write a novel. Nano is ideal for that.
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write a novel. Nano is ideal for that.
Yeah, it's a great little contest, just the kind of kick in the ass a lot of people need.
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Technically it was DMA Design with Psygnosis publishing, though Psygnosis did have a fair hand in styling the lemmings as we know them today, the box art and the larger character you could more easily identify with, that was their idea.
Fun fact, out of the wreckage of DMA Design came... Rockstar North, creators of GTA.
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but hating it?
Maybe they hate it because it’s neither Vi nor Emacs?FWIW, these days I tend to use nano in the terminal, exactly because it’s easy to use and the common commands are right there at the bottom. No more remembering of keystrokes as when I used to use Emacs way back when — and Vi(m) I never even got the hang of at all.
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Why? With
EDITOR=vim
in the environment I'd expect vim as well.
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Fun fact, out of the wreckage of DMA Design came... Rockstar North, creators of GTA.
So in the next Lemmings, instead of blowing up the blockers, you'll have the last Lemming in line knee-cap them with a baseball bat?
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Puts the "oh no" in a whole new light, doesn't it?
Though the IP was last exploited by Team 17 IIRC and they just remade it for PS Vita. While taking out the in-jokes.
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@accalia said:
i was expecting vim
That is the crazy part.
would it have been more sane to expect MSWord?
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See, I have a novel that needs to be written. I'm procrastinating until November because of this.
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Kinda pissed that if my right mouse button isn't still down on the same square when the AJAX call returns it considers it a dig rather than a flag and penalizes me accordingly. Since I go for speed in regular Minesweeper, ... that's a problem.
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I have a novel that needs to be written. I'm procrastinating until November because of this.
Nice to see such an effective methodology being embraced in the enterprise.
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It uses AJAX for every click?