It's a toaster not a shell!
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So I need IntelliJ so I can look at what my highly paid consultant is doing over in Scala land.
Red arrow of shame is mine.
What. The. Fuck. This embodies literally everything that is wrong with west coast software development.
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Does it actually let you type into it? If so, then that's kinda cool. And utterly dumb.
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It does.
Additionally, now that I'm done being flabbergasted, it has come to my attention that this page is broken. I can't get it to actually give me IntelliJ.
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Ah. The corpoproxy is stripping headers from the XMLHttpRequest. So thats not their fault.
Digging through the raw JSON for the actual URL worked, though.
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Someone thought that was really funny and clever. They were grossly incorrect.
west coast software development.
Don't blame it on Seattle, that's Bay Area bullshit.
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You know, just the other day someone was talking about wanting to move to a better area for tech but not liking the high cost of living in the Bay Area. I suggested Seattle, and they were shocked. Nobody thinks of anything that far north when they say "west coast" and "software development"
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Yeah, Seattle is a different cultural region in my mind. Mostly the moderating influence of stodgy old Microsoft, I think. Mind you, if MS ever succeeds at being hip again, I expect the entire rest of the regions devs to also drop into the pot.
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Digging through the raw JSON for the actual URL worked, though
Does the "direct link" on the right do something other than link directly to the file?
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It does the same JavaScript that the regular onload does. Looks like it automatically determines OS, makes a load of http requests, etc.
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Seriously? When Amazon and Microsoft are here? Like... a huge percentage of the US' entire IT industry?
I do know that for people who only took High School geography classes and watch super hero cartoons instead of reading books, there's a general impression that "west coast" means "California" specifically. I try not to hang out with those type of people.
Yeah, Seattle is a different cultural region in my mind. Mostly the moderating influence of stodgy old Microsoft, I think.
The nice thing is that (hip or not) Microsoft does shit right. And so every tech company around here has at least a few ex-Microsoft employees who know and expect things to be done right.
Like Joel says on his "Joel Test" article:
The truth is that most software organizations are running with a score of 2 or 3, and they need serious help, because companies like Microsoft run at 12 full-time.
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The nice thing is that (hip or not) Microsoft does shit right. And so every tech company around here has at least a few ex-Microsoft employees who know and expect things to be done right.
Not to my recent experience.
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I do know that for people who only took High School geography classes and watch super hero cartoons instead of reading books, there's a general impression that "west coast" means "California" specifically.
Well, the Middle East is neither in the middle nor in the east - and definitely not the middle of the east - yet we call it that. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the official definition of West Coast didn't encompass even half of US west coast.
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Seriously? When Amazon and Microsoft are here? Like... a huge percentage of the US' entire IT industry?
Yup. They asked what's there, I said, Amazon's got a huge influence, and someone else chimed in "And Microsoft".
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This embodies literally everything that is wrong with west coast software development.
You're aware of the fact that JetBrains is a Czech company and that most of its developers are in Russia? None of their offices is on the west coast of the US.
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Maybe he meant the west coast of the Czech Republic?
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Maybe he meant the west coast of the Czech Republic?
That would be worrying, since the Czech Republic does not have a single coast.
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You're aware of the fact that JetBrains is a Czech company and that most of its developers are in Russia?
How is that relevant?
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Because he uses the JetBrains website as an example of what he thinks is wrong with "west coast software development"?
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How is that relevant?
How is that relevant that @Weng's example of "west coast software development" isn't from "west coast"?
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Right...?
And I suppose it's impossible to use West Coast-style of software development if you're not in (apparently) California? Is that the confusion?
If I said, "HuniePop is everything wrong with Japanese visual novel games" would you immediately go, "NU UH! It's not Japanese! It was made in the US! I am a snide asshole!!!"?
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there's a general impression that "west coast" means "California" specifically.
Since I haven't lived in any part of the US except Oregon and Washington, I haven't observed this before. We of the Great North We
st know who we are.
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Are you deliberately trolling me right now or are you actually serious? Is is really that hard to see why I think his statement was misplaced?
And I suppose it's impossible to use West Coast-style of software development if you're not in (apparently) California?
Please enlighten me: Why do you think it's reasonable to assume that an IDE company based in Eastern Europe "use[s] West Coast-style of software development"? Have you worked there before? No, you're inferring that from one (!) joke they pulled on their website.
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I was referring to the "doing things because they're cool to other programmers" mindset, not physical geography.
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I had actually noticed and been annoyed by this feature of their website, but didn't even consider posting it here. It's there on all of the Jetbrains site, I guess.
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I had actually noticed and been annoyed by this feature of their website, but didn't even consider posting it here.
Me too. It's a lame joke, but not a .
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I quite like it
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This embodies literally everything that is wrong with
west coastEuropean software development.FTFM
That was my first thought: "Oh, great, another stupid cookie warning."
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What if they had made their download unix shell style as well? Instead of attempting to auto-download with JS, they would detect your system and pick the download url, then instruct you to type
wget http://wherever.cdn.jetbrainz.com/the-thing-you-want.v.1.29.20160217.windowsx86-64.setup.exe
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Ah. The corpoproxy is stripping headers from the XMLHttpRequest. So thats not their fault.
"Later that evening, IntelliJ and the Coporate Proxy got together for a Karaoke duet of 'Anything You Can Do, I Can Do Better'. They were both wrong."
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I have a family friend who moved to Seattle to work with Amazon... not my first thought, but definitely a presence there.
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@Weng said:
This embodies literally everything that is wrong with
UK legislation.west coastEuropean software development
FTFM
FTFYOur lawmakers are retarded. But then they are politicians.
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Well, Belgium. Close enough, really.
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That's interesting - I'm not American and Seattle is like the second place after Silicon Valley I'd think of if someone asked me to name American "tech"[1] locations. Third would be Austin, I guess.
[1] God, I hate that word so much.
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Really, it's the whole coast. Up there you have those two, here we have Intel, down below we have Google and Apple...
You basically just choose which hipster place the climate suits you better in!
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I was referring to the "doing things because they're cool to other programmers" mindset, not physical geography.
What exactly is wrong with "doing things because they're cool to other programmers" when your target audience is literally other programmers? Who else should they humor?
Also that stupid cookie thing is ended EU retardation.
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What exactly is wrong with "doing things because they're cool to other programmers" when your target audience is literally other programmers? Who else should they humor?
I get annoyed at various things that just seem a little too cutesy or whatever. Even if I'm more or less in the target demographic. But not others. Life is funny that way.
De gustibus non est disputandum.
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I know about Silicon Valley and Seattle, but as far as I'm concerned everything between those two places is an inhospitable desert not too different from the original two Fallouts or today's Australia. Small-house-sized scorpions and all.
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everything between those two places is an inhospitable desert
Yeah, it's pretty much exactly unlike that.
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A toaster with a shell inside...?
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That would be worrying, since the Czech Republic does not have a single coast.
I hear Al Gore bought up some "coastline" property in anticipation of global warming flooding.
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Yet
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Also that stupid cookie thing is ended EU retardation.
It's more about lazy web developers.
Most types of cookies don't need consent at all.
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hten me: Why do you think it's reasonable to assume that an IDE company based in Eastern Europe
Hey! Both the Czech Republic and Poland are in the East-Central Europe! You racist cunt!
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Well, this is not the UK legislation. It's the EU legislation. Unfortunately.
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Hey! Both the Czech Republic and Poland are in the East-Central Europe! You racist cunt!
Most of the developers are in Russia. Which is why I said Eastern Europe.
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Most of the developers are in Russia. Which is why I said Eastern Europe.
Most of Russia is in Asia though.
It's more about lazy web developers.
Most types of cookies don't need consent at all.
While that might be true, that is usually not decided by the developers themselves.
And no matter what, the law is retarded.
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Well, the Middle East is neither in the middle nor in the east
It is both, depending on your point of origin. From where you and I are, in central and western Europe respectively, the Middle East is definitely to the east. As for the “middle” bit, it’s not as far to the east as the Far East.