TIL: Solar farms suck up all the energy from the sun
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The next speakers were Bobby and Jane Mann.
Jane Mann said she is a local native and is concerned about the plants that make the community beautiful.
She is a retired Northampton science teacher and is concerned that photosynthesis, which depends upon sunlight, would not happen and would keep the plants from growing. She said she has observed areas near solar panels where the plants are brown and dead because they did not get enough sunlight.
She also questioned the high number of cancer deaths in the area, saying no one could tell her that solar panels didn’t cause cancer.
“I want to know what’s going to happen,” she said. “I want information. Enough is enough. I don’t see the profit for the town.
“People come with hidden agendas,” she said. “Until we can find if anything is going to damage this community, we shouldn’t sign any paper.”
Bobby Mann said he watched communities dry up when I-95 came along and warned that would happen to Woodland because of the solar farms.
“You’re killing your town,” he said. “All the young people are going to move out.”
He said the solar farms would suck up all the energy from the sun and businesses would not come to Woodland.
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Indeed ... if you need to use a crappy mouse and keyboard I would bang my head too ... Nice closet btw
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@flabdablet said:
She is a retired Northampton science teacher
Jesus Christ.
He probably was her science teacher.
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I am offended that you think that's me. I can get past that joke, but damn it man, you have lounge access, you think I'd do... that... to my hair?
Filed under: Yes, I'm too fond of my hair, probably not healthy
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@Rhywden said:
@flabdablet said:
She is a retired Northampton science teacher
Jesus Christ.
He probably was her science teacher.Even He probably has his limits:
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I am offended that you think that's me.
I wasn't going to let knowledge be a to my jokes.
I'm too fond of my hair
I'm fond of my hair too, but it turned out to be a platonic affair.
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"She also questioned the high number of cancer deaths in the area, saying no one could tell her that solar panels didn’t cause cancer."
Hey, Jane; Solar panels don't cause cancer!
There - now someone's told her you so can we all get on with our lives?
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It's actually kind of an interesting point, though.
About 15% of the energy striking a solar farm's panels is going to end up shipped offsite and converted to heat elsewhere on the grid. So a solar farm might conceivably have a local cooling effect.
On the other hand, solar panels are quite dark; a solar farm is going to decrease the amount of visible light reflected from the land surface it covers, and the 85% of absorbed radiation that isn't converted to electricity is going to end up heating the local air rather more than, say, grass or trees would. So a solar farm might conceivably have a local heating effect.
Can anybody link to solid information about which of these effects is actually dominant in existing solar farm installations, and how much net difference we're talking?
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> “People come with hidden agendas,” she said.
Her personal “hidden” agenda is representing the moron faction.
http://www.thedoseofreality.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/stupid.jpg
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It's actually kind of an interesting point, though.
No, your points are interesting. Hers seem to be "OMG, solar panels are like magnets for sunlight, stealing it from plants!"
Now, if she brought up relative temperature changes that might affect nearby plant life because it's now too cool or too hot for it, then she'd have a point.
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In any case, it seems like it's probably no big deal:
The first paper points out another effect I forgot about, which is that a low-albedo, low-thermal-mass structure is also going to cool below ambient at night, so there's no cumulative heat island effect just from the local albedo change.
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Hers seem to be "OMG, solar panels are like magnets for sunlight, stealing it from plants!"
Seems to me that her dead plants were more likely caused by "OMG, mounting frames are like magnets for maintenance workers with weed spray."
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No, the plants were brown because it was on a freaking desert, where most of solar farms are.
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Sand desert, intelligence desert; tomatoe, potatoe.
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Well, solar panels do suck energy... everything directly underneath one receives no sunlight.
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They're a bit like house roofs in that respect.
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and umbrellas
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And trees!
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What if you live in a country that has restrictions on concealed tree permits?
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Maybe we could just paint them all white?
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Sounds like every home owners association ever.
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"no one can tell me [I'm wrong]" is a sure sign you're not a scientist.
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Settled scientist.
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"no one can tell me [I'm wrong]" is a sure sign you're not a scientist.
Or perhaps a climate change scientist.
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There is a scientific consensus that climate change is caused by the lack of pirates
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At least nobody is trying to put up wind farms. Those things will steal all of the angular momentum from the Earth, causing it to stop spinning and then we'll all float off into space.
You can't tell me I'm wrong.
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I am worried with our planet losing mass because nasa keeps launching things on space.
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@Bort said:
"no one can tell me [I'm wrong]" is a sure sign you're not a scientist.
Or perhaps a climate change scientist.
To be fair, there's a pretty huge difference between "no one can tell me I'm wrong" and "non-Lord Christopher Monckton has no credibility whatsoever".
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To be fair, there's a pretty huge difference between "no one can tell me I'm wrong" and "non-Lord Christopher Monckton has no credibility whatsoever".
No...sounds about the same to me.
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"no one can tell me I'm wrong"
“No one can tell me I'm wrong because I'm closing my eyes, putting my fingers in my ears, and singing ‘Gangnam Style’ at the top of my voice.”
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At least nobody is trying to put up wind farms. Those things will steal all of the angular momentum from the Earth, causing it to stop spinning and then we'll all float off into space.
Those things are actually a ploy to effect climate change. Everyone’s been told they’re a green way to generate electricity, but think about it: you only see them turn when you feel a wind blowing. Remind you of anything?[img]http://www.ajphilpott.co.uk/Handlers/Image.ashx?_id=189&_twidth=270&_theight=305&_maxsize=305[/img]
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Those things will steal all of the angular momentum from the Earth, causing it to stop spinning and then we'll all float off into space.
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Everyone’s been told they’re a green way to generate electricity, but think about it: you only see them turn when you feel a wind blowing. Remind you of anything?
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I am worried with our planet losing mass because nasa keeps launching things on space.
But that can be a good thing
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https://xkcd.com/1378/
I thought you were going to go with [url="https://xkcd.com/556/"]this one[/url].
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"Nobody can tell me I'm wrong. Also, I died in 1955." --Albert Einstein
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Still doesn't change the fact that North Carolina has at least one shockingly dumb science teacher.
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Still doesn't change the fact that North Carolina has at least one shockingly dumb science teacher.
Of course not. Morons should be mocked but so should bad journalism no matter how hilarious it is.
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I though it was bad that locals near me in the UK were protesting a solar farm because of NOISE pollution!
I don't think these people could even spell I.Q. let alone have one!
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I don't think these people could even spell I.Q. let alone have one!
It would be funny if your username was actually meant to be @IQ_Guru...