Cable ISP and IPv6
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10.25.0.1: Router
10.25.2.6: Desktop (which sometimes pretends to be a server)
10.25.2.7-12: Servers
10.25.1.xx: Assorted DHCPNo, DNS isn't feasible because sometimes I don't have the luxury of reconfiguring DNS servers on the local machine. And it also likes to just not work for unknown raisins (not the biggest issue I've had because it's a major heisenbug and I have bigger fish to fry)
That's just my home network x_x
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I don't have the luxury of reconfiguring DNS servers on the local machine.
my home network
TRWTF
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Change the DNS server that your router hands out in its DHCP announce.
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There's also always the HOSTS file.
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In order for ipv6 to be truly sane for home networks, there needs to be some kind of dhcp-dns integration. Kind of like the ActiveDirectory integrated dns, but cross platform.
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BTW I'm really surprised by how crap ISPs are on the other side of the pond.
Here (with here being the Netherlands) I have a properly functioning dual stack internet connection with a /48 range. 50/50 mbit for 40 bucks a month. Also, should I want to cancel that contract I don't have to jump through hoops on the phone.
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Speaking of jumping through hoops to cancel...apparently Comcast directs you to a 'retention specialist' if you want to cancel. Plenty of YouTube videos of insane phone calls where they just go in circles trying to tire you out so you give up trying to cancel.
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Ah well, that's because us Europeans have rules and regulations that force ISPs to do their jobs properly, and to compete on a level playing field. Well, that's the aim anyway; it falls short in some areas still. But generally speaking, it gets the job done.
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Change the DNS server that your router hands out in its DHCP announce.
I'm afraid one of those local machines he can't configure is the router.
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Then change the DNS server on the clients.
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Then change the DNS server on the clients.
@sloosecannon said:sometimes I don't have the luxury of reconfiguring DNS servers on the local machine.
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Listen, it's not my problem if his local network is pants-on-head retarded :)
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In Poland it's like, if you live in a big city, you can get 100Mbps for $10-20/month, but if you're even few steps outside perimeters, good luck finding 10Mbps at all.
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@sloosecannon said:
I don't have the luxury of reconfiguring DNS servers on the local machine.
my home network
TRWTFVPN from remote computes where I'm not an admin...
Change the DNS server that your router hands out in its DHCP announce.
Doesn't work. Router is TRWTF. Not that big of an issue to make me look into the cause but it sometimes hands it out and sometimes doesn't...
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Nope, have full control over the router and basically all the computers, except ones I remotely connect with.
Remembering "2.12 is the Minecraft server" is much easier than configuring DNS on every machine I might use...
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Yup
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Ah well, that's because us Europeans have rules and regulations that force ISPs to do their jobs properly, and to compete on a level playing field. Well, that's the aim anyway; it falls short in some areas still. But generally speaking, it gets the job done.
It works just as well as their rules for diesel car emissions!
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Yup
What the fuck for?
Goddamned this forum is full of crazy people. What's your power bill!? Or do you just not give a shit about wasting power?
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Assorted things. Web server, build server for my projects, Minecraft (x3), Space Engineers, SSH, VPN, ADDS
When I say "server", from a network perspective, it's any machine functioning as a server. Only 3 of the actual machines are full-on servers (and only 2 of those are on routinely), the others are just discarded old desktops I'm using for something lightweight.
And yes, I am crazy. I proudly accept that title.
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VPN from remote computes where I'm not an admin...
Do you admin the VPN server? If so, have it hand out DNS server info to connecting clients.
Doesn't work. Router is TRWTF.
Does the DNS server on the router query the nameservers listed in /etc/resolv.conf if it doesn't have the info to satisfy a request? If it does, perhaps set your non-stupid DNS server as the first available nameserver.
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Assorted things. Web server, build server for my projects, Minecraft (x3), Space Engineers, SSH, VPN, ADDS
Is this some kind of open source retard dick-measuring thing?
Why do you need a build server for "your projects"? Do you somehow have a desktop incapable of building software? Why do you need three Minecraft servers, when Minecraft is a boring piece of shit? Since when is SSH something that needs dedicated hardware? Since when if VPN something you don't do in an appliance? What the holy fuck is "ADDS"? Did you mean AIDS? Like your mom has from all those african sailors?
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What's your power bill!? Or do you just not give a shit about wasting power?
Meh. Residential usage is a fraction of industrial usage.
What the holy fuck is "ADDS"?
This was the first thing I thought of, and I'm just a Linux user: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa362244(v=vs.85).aspx
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VM host 1:
Domain controller A (DNS, DHCP)
Linux sandbox.
WinServer sandbox.
NAS.VM Host 2:
Domain controller B (Standby DNS, standby DHCP)
Security DVR.
Public facing webserver.
Email.
Border router (yes, virtualized).Physical because hardware:
Home automation controller
Industrial automation controller for my garage
Half a dozen WAPs.
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YES! YOUR DICK IS SO BIG!
Oh wait, I didn't ask and I don't care.
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Do you admin the VPN server? If so, have it hand out DNS server info to connecting clients.
Doesn't seem to work either, perhaps for the same reason as the other ones. The DNS server may be at fault.
Does the DNS server on the router query the nameservers listed in /etc/resolv.conf if it doesn't have the info to satisfy a request? If it does, perhaps set your non-stupid DNS server as the first available nameserver.
I have no idea honestly. It's a Tomato fork (stock firmware, DD-WRT was too buggy...) but I don't know how the internals work.
Is this some kind of open source retard dick-measuring thing?
I wouldn't know.Why do you need a build server for "your projects"? Do you somehow have a desktop incapable of building software?
Because being able to download a built version that's up to date is a good thing. Or have you never thought of that concept?Why do you need three Minecraft servers
Because to meMinecraft is a boring piece of shit
is completely false. YMMV.Since when is SSH something that needs dedicated hardware
Because I have the hardware to run it on.ADDS
Active Directory Domain Services?Did you mean AIDS? Like your mom has from all those african sailors?
E_DOES_NOT_APPLY
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Point is, it's no longer hard to pile up loads of crap when virtual machines exist and VMware gives away esxi.
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Because being able to download a built version that's up to date is a good thing.
I just rebuild it when I need to. I don't have any projects that take longer than 30 seconds to build, but then again I don't work on shitty open source bullshit crap dumb ass mulch shit.
Because I have the hardware to run it on.
Right; but IT COSTS MONEY TO POWER IT. Why would you spend money on this when you could just put it on one of the other 346 servers you have? CASH MONEY! Do you just throw $20s in sewers, or what?
Point is, it's no longer hard to pile up loads of crap when virtual machines exist and VMware gives away esxi.
I don't give a shit about your "how many home servers do you have" dick measuring contest.
Hey if you were trying to make a point, maybe just... as a suggestion... make the point instead of giving me a 4376-line list of pointless bullshit that doesn't include the point you were trying to make.
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I just rebuild it when I need to. I don't have any projects that take longer than 30 seconds to build, but then again I don't work on shitty open source bullshit crap dumb ass mulch shit.
Nor do I. I've never worked on shitty open source bullshit crap dum ass mulch shit either. I've worked on a few high-quality open source projects though.
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My point is invalid anyway because the psycho I was trying to defend is using physical hardware.
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You keep bringing up dick-measuring contests. Do you have an issue you want to talk to someone about? I don't think anyone else has that... strange level of interest... here...
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I've worked on a few high-quality open source projects though.
Pfft.
Yeah and I've worked on shoeing unicorns.
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Huh. Interesting. And here I thought unicorns didn't exist.
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I think the problem is that I'm not hoarder. Or whatever the server version of the term "hoarder" is.
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You keep bringing up dick
I don't think anyone else has that...
Filed under: selective quoting is fun!
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Well I can speak for myself... but...
Eh screwit, whatever.
Well played sir, well played.
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Bah. Too bad about your DNS woes.
I know that the world of router and DNS server administration is immensely thrilling, and you're waiting with bated breath to hear some other neckbeard talk about his router setup. ;)
I've had substantially better luck with OpenWRT than DD-WRT (perhaps the definition of abandonware) or the Tomato forks.
I was using some Tomato fork (maybe Tomato-USB?) a long time ago. The thing was really easy to use, but the moment you stepped outside of whatever was provided in the firmware image, you were in for a bad time. IIRC, everything except for config files was stored in "ROM". (I'm fairly sure that it was impossible to install new software on the thing without making and flashing a new firmware image. ) Config files were catted into various NVRAM variables, rather than doing something sane like storing them as text files in a partition the device's onboard flash.
Maybe your fork is more sane than mine was, I have no idea. But, if your router is supported, and you get the time and gumption, maybe give OpenWRT a try.
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@RaceProUK said:
Ah well, that's because us Europeans have rules and regulations that force ISPs to do their jobs properly, and to compete on a level playing field. Well, that's the aim anyway; it falls short in some areas still. But generally speaking, it gets the job done.
It works just as well as their rules for diesel car emissions!
Not that your rules worked any better :)
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It works just as well as their rules for diesel car emissions!
You mean you don't run your servers on diesel? V8 has that name for good reason!
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It's named after the vegetable drink.
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I know that the world of router and DNS server administration is immensely thrilling, and you're waiting with bated breath to hear some other neckbeard talk about his router setup.
Well OK then.
Mine's a Beaglebone Black running Debian. That board only has a single 100Mb/s Ethernet port, so I've got it hooked to a cheap 8-port switch that knows how to 802.1Q: I have one VLAN for the link from router to modem, and another for the house LAN. The modem is set up in bridge mode and all the PPPoE stuff happens in the Debian box; it's nice to be able to monitor that traffic directly. Dnsmasq handles DNS and DHCP in a well integrated, easily configured way. NAT and firewalling is done with iptables. There's no web interface on it, I just ssh into it.
The Beaglebone Black has 512MiB of RAM, so I am not going to run out of NAT even if every machine in the house is torrenting flat-out. It's got plenty of μSD flash, so I can just keep installing Debian packages on it as I need new capabilities. And it has an ARM at 1GHz, which is total overkill for a home router. Average power consumption is about four watts.
My current ISP doesn't offer IPV6 as far as I know, but when they eventually get around to it, all I'll need to do is work out a handful of sane firewalling rules and then turn it on.
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...so I've got it hooked to a cheap 8-port switch that knows how to 802.1Q...
Is this a managed or smart switch whose ports can be configured to do VLAN stuff, or is it a dumb switch that fails to molest 802.1Q tags? On my LAN, I've had good results with the latter.
(I make use of VLANs for WiFi network isolation; I currently consider the wired portion of my LAN to be trusted. [Primarily to reduce complaints when the roommate plugs her laptop into the "wrong" switch port. ])
Dnsmasq handles DNS and DHCP in a well integrated, easily configured way.
If you ever need to move to something more powerful, BIND + ISC dhcpd is fairly easy to configure and -like dnsmasq- handles automatic registration of the hostnames of DHCP lessees.
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I believe "Neckbeardy sysadmin" is the term you're looking for.
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Is this a managed or smart switch whose ports can be configured to do VLAN stuff, or is it a dumb switch that fails to molest 802.1Q tags? On my LAN, I've had good results with the latter.
Smart.
The port connected to the BeagleBone is configured for tagged traffic on VLANs 1, 2 and 3, the one connected to the modem for untagged traffic on VLAN 2, and the other six for untagged traffic on VLAN 3. Management VLAN and port-based VLAN settings are disabled, so I'm avoiding VLAN 1 for untagged traffic for mostly superstitious reasons.
BIND + ISC dhcpd is fairly easy to configure
Main reason I use dnsmasq is because, this being the exact use case it was designed for, it's super easy to configure. My little home LAN doesn't need any of the extra stuff I could set up with BIND, which is what I used to use before discovering dnsmasq. Seriously, if you're not using dnsmasq for something dnsmasq can do, you're doing it the hard way.
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And I (also in the netherlands) cannot get IPv6 from Vodafone at all. My router supports it, my internal network uses it. but alas not connection down the line.
I could switch fiber operator but then I get other problems (again this is my third fiber operator).
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Main reason I use dnsmasq is because, this [is] the exact use case it was designed for[.]
Good. There's little worse than someone who dramatically overcomplicates things for any reason other than their own amusement or edification.
...if you're not using dnsmasq for something dnsmasq can do, you're doing it the hard way.
Agreed. However, if you're even vaguely serious about being a network admin, it is good to have at least a passing familiarity (as I'm sure that you have) with what you can do with BIND and other "real" DNS servers.
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And yes, I am crazy. I proudly accept that title.
Given what passes for normal by the mainstream population, I take crazy as a compliment. :)
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I may look into it. Right now I'm happy with my network and its stability (it was OK before, but then I flashed a new build and things went downhill quickly... I only recently recovered peace and quiet) - if DNS being quirky is my biggest problem, I'm doing well for myself